Just wondering if there’s a plan to do a colour correction of sorts. Moments of this movie are actually quite ugly as a result of the overwhelming blue hue and I can’t quite get over it!
I think that second one is mine! You can cut it for sure if you want. There’s also some other takes with different energy!
Either yours or mine…
To be honest, when I originally sent in my voice clips I thought Hal only wanted “For Skywalker” so I said that line in, like, 6 or 7 voices and called it a day. I’m more than happy to record something different for my contribution because I agree that too many "For Skywalker"s is a little excessive.
Hal 9000 said:
Here’s a couple thoughts based on this wonderful clip LILLIAN02330 posted earlier: https://vimeo.com/421944019
Pan down to TIEs approaching a destroyer (with some tiny specks beneath, subtly moving toward the planet
Aerial shot of a patterned lava flow, with a few troop carriers flying by, either above camera or very closeby underneath, overtaking the camera (could use the forest shot instead)
Troop carriers land, and troops emerge, heading into battle
Distant shot of a lava eruption with trees in the foreground
Kylo Ren is seen on a rampage, and scene goes on from there
Overall, this one was super well done! The amount of work you’ve done with this footage is immense and I can’t imagine it was easy. I’m genuinely curious to see how the pacing of this plays out once it’s complete - it’s almost art house in the way it takes its time and often lacks dialogue.
The one this that stood out to me was when Kuill and Mando are at the Razorcrest saying their goodbyes. Mando says that he could use a crew member with Kuill’s abilities and skills, but we never really get to see those skills in this cut. Perhaps he’s just referring to his ability to capture and tame wildlife? (That doesn’t seem to be a skill Mando would find particularly valuable). Maybe it would be possible to cut this part out.
Looking forward to part 3!
It’s looking good! I only watched on my phone, but the edits seemed pretty flawless. As far as the ending goes, are you planning on having it flow into “act” 2? Because at this point it still feels like an ending of something.
As far as suggestions go, perhaps volume levels should be looked over again during the intro and transitioning into the episode footage? I’m no audio expert, but the fanfare was maybe a little loud compared to the Mando OST that follows it.
Also, in the crawl, maybe “law and order HAS” should be changed to “law and order HAVE” since you are referring to two subjects. Unless you mean the Law & Order TV series! One final suggestion would be changing “in a dangerous part of the galaxy” to “in a dangerous corner of the galaxy”. The word “part” just seems a little simple for lack of a better term.
Really looking forward to seeing how this project evolves!
Gave this another shot…
Awesome! I only listened to it over phone speakers, but I’d appreciate a more obvious “t” sound between “just” and “Rey”.
I agree with you, Poppa - I expected her (and wanted her) to say “just Rey” the first time I saw the movie. It so beautifully allows her to remain a Palpatine while still acknowledging that one’s family line doesn’t define who you are. I think this could work for a Rey Palpatine OR Rey Nobody version. Even if none of the major edits decide to use this clip, I’d love a version I could insert into an edit eventually!
Hal 9000 said:
Even if you’ll let me and I end up using this sequence as you’ve edited it, I’d still include the medal shot, personally. But I don’t plan to remove it being given to Chewie.
Makes sense if you’re keeping the Chewie scene. Not the right thread, but do you have plans to make it play out a little better? Or maybe I’d like it more in the context of a fan edit.
Oolala! Some of that music works suspiciously well… Super awesome work.
I’ll “third” refining Leia’s added line.
It’s probably been mentioned already but what’s your plan with Leia holding Han’s medal? I didn’t notice her holding it the first time I saw the movie, and after noticing it in subsequent viewings it still looked dumb. Especially if Chewy receiving Han’s medal at the end is being cut.
I was going over the most recent draft of the crawl, and while it’s very good, I have just one suggestion.
“A shadow has consumed the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, the First Order has scattered and isolated those with the bravery to face the darkness.”
Grammatically, it feels a little weird starting a sentence with “to”. I think a brief edit to something like “The First Order has scattered and isolated those with the bravery to face the darkness in an attempt to suffocate the spark of rebellion” OR “In an attempt to suffocate the spark of rebellion, the First Order… Etc.”
Something like that. I hope I’m not being too nitpicky!
I’m not too sure what you mean with the comment about the intro. Since Episode 9 just started with a different soundtrack and a title card. I’m planning to keep the intros reasonably consistent throughout the mini series.
I can always play with a variety of ideas whilst I’m editing these arcs together 😃
Sorry if my post wasn’t clear.
To my recollection, episode 9 begins with green text that says something like “Lucasfilm Presents…” with some music behind it. Then the classic Star Wars crawl begins but in a red font (probably a reference to Maul) and then fades into the typical announcer Clone Wars intro. None of us are really a fan of that last announcer part, but if you replaced it with a “Solo-esque” crawl at that point I think it would all look super great. In my mind, that was Filoni’s way of saying “these last four episodes are special and deserve a movie-like treatment.”
If that still doesn’t make sense, then don’t worry about it!! What you have going it great and I’ll be watching it regardless 🙂
Just to add another opinion to the mix, I’m an advocate for doing a Shaw/Christensen hybrid, or an aged Christensen who’s the same age as Shaw. That way we still get Christensen, but don’t aggressively contradict the general opinion that Shaw is the proper force ghost of Anakin in ROTJ. Seems like a reasonable compromise.
Damn, watching that purple saber ignite for the first time once this is all completed is gonna be the definition of “hype”.
I’m very excited to see where this all goes! Thanks so much for taking this project on.
A couple suggestions, if I may:
- as great as your recently posted intro is, I think the unique intro introduced in S07E09 is a good way to go, especially since E09-E12 are being released in a way that suggests it might be released in movie format sooner than later. Those 4 episodes (once they’re all released) will stand alone as one coherent story and serve as a good blueprint in my opinion.
- I noticed in your original post that you were thinking of including the “Without a Trace” episodes. In my opinion, these episodes have very little to offer other than bringing back Ahsoka. I actually temporarily stopped watching S07 during that arc because of how much of a let down it was. I’d rather see the Bad Batch for the sake of Rex, or neither.
As far as whether you choose to go with Option 1, Option 2, or a completely different direction, I’m easy.
I’m preaching to the choir here, but those force vision clips are glorious. Absolutely how it should have been in the first place.
Hal 9000 said:
Deepfake all Final Order crew with Palpatine’s face.
Now THIS is the kind of commitment I expect from a top-tier fan edit.
Here’s Poe’s intel briefing scene to the Resistance without any direct mentions of Palpatine:
I’m actually surprised how well that worked! I love that people are starting to piece things together for their edits. I feel like you’d still want to cut Merry’s/Charlie’s line about cloning. It already felt like it came out of left field and now that Palpatine isn’t even mentioned it’s just random.
Hal 9000 said:
They’re almost hybrid versions of each other already! But I’m glad you’re able to do that, and that you won’t have to start from scratch.
Hahaha, fair enough! Essentially I might just add Space Leia to Poppa’s. Maybe your Poe/Hux intro dialogue since I like the way it plays out better! Who knows what else - I’ll have to compare the change lists again. Absolutely non-essential changes but at this point, why not make it perfect for me?
That’s true, it has been implied since the OT. Still, I’d vote for a hint in the ST before TROS, just to remind the audience.
As someone who was never particularly offended by Leia’s space walk, I’m planning on creating a Poppa/Hal hybrid for personal use now that the “final” versions are complete.
Chase Adams said:
If you would like that, then yes.
Here it is:
I REALLY like this idea, however I’m not convinced that this is the way to execute it. For one, I had to watch the clip three times to fully understand the new dialogue. Also, a major issue I have with the original scene is the accent/voice of the alien and this new version seems to double down on that. I like the idea of just switching to an alien language with subtitles… it’s been a while since we’ve had some good subtitles in a Star War 😃
I read somewhere that in the novelisation, the Luke and Leia training fight was actually a flash back that Leia had at the start of the film.
That seems to be the case!
A quick summary of Chapter 2 for those who are interested:
(The following happens immediately after Rey rescues BB-8 and before her conversation with Leia)
- Hux, and Pryde are on Mustafar watching Kylo cut down Mustafarian colonists
- (Hux and Pryde chat about how beautiful Kylo’s fighting is but is absolutely unnecessary)
- After killing everyone, Kylo walks through Mustafar and the planet surface is described
- Kylo approaches a pool with Vader’s castle in the background. Here he talks to the “oracle” (actually a weird and unnecessary conversation as well)
- Oracle points Kylo toward a chest in the middle of the pool where he finds Vader’s wayfinder
- The rest plays out as in the movie
I feel like including some establishing shots such as the ones being discussed in this thread, in addition to a matte with Vader’s castle before Kylo discovers the wayfinder would be adequate to flesh this scene out a bit. I feel like we’re on the right track given what’s being discussed!
If these posts are more annoying than helpful, let me know and I’ll stop. I just find the novel fascinating and a good source for inspiration!
I’m currently reading the novelization and since so much discussion on this thread has been about the opening of the movie, I figured I’d summarize the opening of the novel. It shifts some things around and provides a framework for how a potential fan edit could look. I’ll start with the first chapter:
- Opens with Rey floating with rocks and reaching out to past Jedi
- She proceeds to run the training course, but completes it without having any force visions (struggles to fight off the red training remote but due to impatience)
- After taking down the remote she has force vision…
- jungle fades away and (Sith) whispers fill her ears
- First image is of Kylo Ren attacking robed figures with his lightsaber (probably the sequence we get on Mustafar)
- Second image seems to be her standing alone in front of the monolith on Exegol
- Flashes of Luke, Kylo, Han’s hand on Kylo’s cheek, Rey’s parents flying away from Jakku
- Finally, a voice in her head saying “Exegol” and an image of the Sith throne, first empty and then with her
sitting on it
- Vision ends and Rey helps BB-8 out from under the tree
Thoughts and feelings? I like that it begins the movie with Rey and Leia and then introduces the antagonist with less obvious footage and mystery (i.e. not immediately seeing Kylo and Palpatine interact).
What’s the line again? Isn’t it like they haven’t reported back yet? Maybe doesn’t make the most sense but arguably it makes going from that scene to the Falcon feel natural (again, I’m pretty sure this is where the scene was originally placed).
Yeah, that’s basically the line. The more I think about it I guess it could still work! It feels a little like we should already know what’s happening re: the Falcon but it makes the next transition make sense.
Yeah I feel like that’s important. In a film like Star Wars you have to be careful in how you transition from storyline to storyline. How the first act of TLJ is structured is a good example to look at. Going from Palpatine to Rey right after Rey is mentioned just makes more sense in terms of flow and keeps things focused on that main conflict to start out. I only worry about how the literal transition will work (in terms of music and visuals).
Here’s hoping it will work! Based on my limited messing around, I think it’s doable.
I’ve thought about it quite a bit and I think I’m going to move the Falcon’s mission to after Rey’s intro, training, and pep talk with Leia (“Never underestimate a droid”).
This is a great idea! I made a quick personal edit and it plays pretty well. Since we haven’t been introduced to the falcon yet in this cut, I feel like it’s (unfortunately) helpful to cut out Connix’s line with Leia if you go this route.
LOVE that it transitions from Palpatine to Rey rather than the crew on the Falcon.
First one is amazing! Definitely the most seamless addition of the deleted scene yet.