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#412376
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J. Williams &amp; LSO, The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK <em>AUDIOPHILE EDITION</em> - Restored &amp; Remastered Score (Released)
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Savage said:

In the past, ABC has made the .flacs available on the internets.

 Indeed. The few of you who have posted here were the same (almost) who were kind enough to make the little effort to give feedbacks for the OE... Ten feedbacks over 12000 view in a short amount of time, and a set easily findable, whenever you were member or not... And after that, a thread as quickly forgotten ! I never saw the Optimum Edition be bumped with feedbacks since then, while I know the set has been downloaded much times.

I noticed how much the current thread has been viewed since I posted new samples and I just think it is unfair "everybody" can catch this set - a very hard work on the holy Grail of the scores - only thanks to a dozen of persons who care enough to tell their point here.

Then, I haven't decided yet among the many options. "Private" share ? Wide share ?... Someone around here is great enough and already proposed to handle the 2nd option, and I'm not speaking about a torrent or special sites. More direct than its way, you can't.

Time - more or less - will tell. Let's say before 2020... Though it could make a nice 40th anniversary edition. :)

 

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#412372
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J. Williams &amp; LSO, The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK <em>AUDIOPHILE EDITION</em> - Restored &amp; Remastered Score (Released)
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hairy_hen said:

Count me in as enthusiastically awaiting this release!

I wonder how much improvement it presents over the version 2 that I currently have... the benefits of this are probably a more subtle building from there.

That's the idea. The set you have was a kind of "wedding" between the sources. The AE is a solid alloy, no comparison possible. The new corrected pitchs and balances allowed a lot to go in that direction, not mentionning all the EQ's have been taken back from the beginning, excepted for some of the RSO CD album tracks. In term of richness the whole set goes beyond the previous sets I made, as for almost each single track.

A track like "Drawing the Battle Lines" as shown in the samples perhaps don't tell a lot listened to isolately, but as it is included in the set, not only it sounds great but there are almost no other EQ's possible for that track, for instance.

... that's what I attempted for all the set.

The idea to offer a 3rd CD came to slight ajustments possible for the best track and believe me: I couldn't find alternate EQ's for all the track to make a solid new whole. The equilibrium for this score and its sources to sound the best is quite narrow.

Must be a relief to be finished!  It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't want to listen to this again for a while, ABC--I know how tiring it can get listening to the same thing over and over.  Still, you can't stay away from this great music for too long.  :)

 True that's exhausting as long as you're still wondering how you can manage the over-modulation of the sessions transfers, how to temper the power of the layered tracks ect...

But now each time I try to listen to something else errr, how to say... the empire strikes back ! Haha !!! I'm still discovering a ton of details in the orchestration. Incredible.

 

Joel said:

ABC, another question:

How do you add an LP "layer" to another track and completely avoid phasing errors? 

 

There may be *imo* two ways of thinking possible for such work:

  1. "I must absolutely avoid phasing errors"
  2. "I must find the pitch/speed as close as I can"

 

The first one is the way of the mathematician / technician, the second is the way of the artist. The first calculates and approaches the work with cautious expectation, the second just dares.

So to give a precise answer: I don't completely avoid phasing errors. I just make the tracks as close as I can, and the only phasing errors I can catch have to be, of course, acceptable.

Anyway, the RSO tracks layered on the sessions mixes are not the same mixes, not even the same transfers, so better left the mathematician way aside.

Now listen again to "Departure Of Boba Fett" in the 15mn overview, and tell me about... It has the most noticeable phasing error(s).

...

PS: And to answer your question in the OT Salvage thread: no, I don't clean vinyl transfers. Yes, the AE has a few far cracklings. I want the sound untouched and can't believe you can digitally clean a LP without affecting the sound, notably when it's sharp as for the Empire LP's.

Don't mistake on me my friend: I'm not a dust buster. I will even add dust if it can improve the range and the detail ! ;)

 

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#412371
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J. Williams &amp; LSO: The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Restored Score: the *AUDIOPHILE EDITION* (Covers &amp; Documentary Booklet)
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BmB said:

To be honest I think you nailed it from day one with that SSD on black.

The fist idea is often the good one. Well, someone close to me says that's The One anyway, so I think we go with the Star Destroyer. Only I may stick on the classic typo as shown in the previous page (or the latest covers I posted).

Thanks for the argumentation ;)

I'll post a couple of updated images when my computer will be more stable.

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#411281
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J. Williams &amp; LSO: The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Restored Score: the *AUDIOPHILE EDITION* (Covers &amp; Documentary Booklet)
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ABC said:

Here's the last one I'll be posting there - wouldn't be fun if I posted all the visuals while they're getting done, leaving that way no further surprise !

May I present, the definitive cover of the "audiophile edition", no matter what...

 

 

 ... And its alternate counterpart...

 

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#411177
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Star Wars 1977 70mm sound mix recreation [stereo and 5.1 versions now available] (Released)
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By the way, I was thinking reading you in the 77-93 mix comparison thread and just remembered your feedback about my work. I thought: what about the idea to use the SW soundtrack anthology? Ok, I know you can't get rid of the film soundtrack to keep only the SFX's but the SW anthology presents the film mix version of the music. With a bunch of reediting to fit the film edit and with overdubbing you would make a masterpiece... I guess.

I don't know so much about film editing but considering how I managed my last rendition for the Empire score, with this "layering" technic I developped for it (when it looked impossible to me at first), that's exactly how I would work and present a new version of these films: kind of concerto movies with a blowing soundtrack ! ;)

It would just take you a little more time. :)

 

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#410722
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J. Williams &amp; LSO: The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Restored Score: the *AUDIOPHILE EDITION* (Covers &amp; Documentary Booklet)
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EyeShotFirst said:

I just really love that poster, so this one is my favorite no matter what.

 Sure it has nice color. Btw, I'd be glad taking a closer look at yours, it looks to have a nice color treatment, don't know if you have corrected it. (I haven't done it myself for now as it's not the same file I used before).

 

Msycamore, There's only one way IMO to admire the logo in its glory:

 

 

And, let's add a WIP:

 

 

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#410529
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THE OT SOUNDTRACKS SALVAGE - <strong>SW</strong>ESB<strong>ROTJ</strong> -&quot;remastered&quot;(so far)+ LP's (Released)
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Just wondered, as far as this thread gets lost (excepted that I just bumped it), and as this work has been uploaded to the alt.binaries.starwars, if there are feedbacks, descriptions or reviews there? Just a question that crossed my mind, as I don't know the place and don't need to. Sounds like a SW supermarket...

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#410486
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J. Williams &amp; LSO: The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Restored Score: the *AUDIOPHILE EDITION* (Covers &amp; Documentary Booklet)
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PS to Eyeshotfirst: ... and it's too much work, even beeing very quick myself with the tools. I haven't made it "to make" it. ;)

 

Don't know anymore wich cover will be featured and where (Sleeve or main cover)... But sure this one is finished and will be used. Indeed the classic font "sounds" better.