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#1362800
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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DrDre said:

Here’s the current status of the color grading:

It’s looking really great so far!! My only note would be the pinkish blocky artifacting that seems to be present quite a bit. Maybe it’s just a limitation with the source? It doesn’t appear to be too major, but for pixel-peepers like myself it’s still noticeable.

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#1362384
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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J0E said:

pat man said:

J0E said:

I WAS thinking about buying the individual 4k releases of the Original Trilogy just to check out the “new” transfer. From everything I can gather, these don’t have Dolby Vision. Isn’t Dolby Vision the standard for true HDR color/contrast interpretation on 4k OLED displays? We get the higher resolution but we don’t get the true HDR color range with these discs?

Send help.

Disney Hasn’t released/ re-release tiles with Dolby Vision on Disc for a while. They do have standard HDR10. The only way to get DV is either stream their titles or Download them using the Included Digital code or D+.

Well that’s disappointing.

Yeah, I believe the last Dolby Vision physical release from Disney was The Last Jedi. However, the new 2019 disc of The Last Jedi doesn’t have Dolby Vision anymore… It’s only on the original release. Pretty lame. I wish they’d bring back Dolby Vision to their physical releases.

But at the same time, I’m at least glad Disney’s a huge deliverer of Dolby Vision on Disney+. That makes me happy.

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#1362383
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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J0E said:

I WAS thinking about buying the individual 4k releases of the Original Trilogy just to check out the “new” transfer. From everything I can gather, these don’t have Dolby Vision. Isn’t Dolby Vision the standard for true HDR color/contrast interpretation on 4k OLED displays? We get the higher resolution but we don’t get the true HDR color range with these discs?

Send help.

HDR10 has the exact same HDR color range as Dolby Vision. The difference is that Dolby Vision’s tonemapping is created by the colorists/filmmakers rather than automatically created by the TV. This means if you have a very high quality, expensive OLED TV, then Dolby Vision and HDR10 should theoretically look exactly the same. The problem with HDR10 arises when it’s viewed on cheap HDR TVs that aren’t capable of producing the full color gamut (or close to the full gamut), so the TV’s automatic — and very crappy — tonemapping kicks in to remap the color gamut to fit the display.

So yes, Dolby Vision is superior. But HDR10 isn’t bad — What makes HDR10 look bad is a bad TV.

Also, the Dolby Vision standard is capable of 12-bit color, which is of course capable of producing a wider range of colors than the 10-bit color maximum of HDR10. But the vast majority of Dolby Vision content right now is only 10-bit anyway.

I agree that it’s really dumb Disney has neglected Dolby Vision on physical media. But HDR10 is still hood, and the digital codes will give you the Dolby Vision versions if by chance your TV doesn’t bode well with HDR10.

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#1362069
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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DrDre said:

Here’s C-3PO and R2-D2’s arrival on Tatooine:

Great work so far! But I can’t help but feel like this particular scene lacks a bit of color separation now. I think some of the blue needs to be brought back into the sky and in R2 just a little bit, to give it the color contrast that it needs. Not to the crazy extent of the 2011 Blu-ray, of course, but just a little bit. (Right now, it’s is feeling kind of like a faded, brownish film print rather than a color-accurate film print). 🙂

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#1361780
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44rh1n's "The Fellowship of the Ring" Extended Edition Color Restoration (Released)
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stretch009 said:

44rh1n said:

stretch009 said:

44rh1n said:

brian0975 said:

Amazing work.
I have the BD Extended Edition trilogy. I would love to have a copy of this masterpiece if it’s still available. I am happy to offer proof of ownership and a PayPal contribution.

Thanks! Feel free to send me a DM, if you haven’t already. And my restoration is free for anyone who owns the extended Blu-ray (it’s important to support the filmmakers and studios who make the films we love). Fan restorations should never be bought or sold. 🙂 But if you’re interested in donating towards the creation of future restoration releases, you’re absolutely welcome to. It’s completely optional, of course. https://www.paypal.me/44rh1n/

I know what a PM is, what does this uncommon DM mean?

It’s not uncommon. DM = Direct Message, PM = Private Message. They’re the same thing. 🙂

It’s uncommon on this site.

If that’s really the case and you think “DM” would have caused confusion, then thanks for letting me know. I just edited the post to say “PM” instead.

I honestly never thought a single person would have misunderstood what “DM” meant though, haha. 🙂

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#1361776
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44rh1n's "The Fellowship of the Ring" Extended Edition Color Restoration (Released)
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stretch009 said:

44rh1n said:

brian0975 said:

Amazing work.
I have the BD Extended Edition trilogy. I would love to have a copy of this masterpiece if it’s still available. I am happy to offer proof of ownership and a PayPal contribution.

Thanks! Feel free to send me a DM, if you haven’t already. And my restoration is free for anyone who owns the extended Blu-ray (it’s important to support the filmmakers and studios who make the films we love). Fan restorations should never be bought or sold. 🙂 But if you’re interested in donating towards the creation of future restoration releases, you’re absolutely welcome to. It’s completely optional, of course. https://www.paypal.me/44rh1n/

I know what a PM is, what does this uncommon DM mean?

It’s not uncommon. DM = Direct Message, PM = Private Message. They’re the same thing. 🙂

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#1361599
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44rh1n's "The Fellowship of the Ring" Extended Edition Color Restoration (Released)
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brian0975 said:

Amazing work.
I have the BD Extended Edition trilogy. I would love to have a copy of this masterpiece if it’s still available. I am happy to offer proof of ownership and a PayPal contribution.

Thanks! Feel free to send me a PM, if you haven’t already. And my restoration is free for anyone who owns the extended Blu-ray (it’s important to support the filmmakers and studios who make the films we love). Fan restorations should never be bought or sold. 🙂 But if you’re interested in donating towards the creation of future restoration releases, you’re absolutely welcome to. It’s completely optional, of course. https://www.paypal.me/44rh1n/

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#1359505
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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DrDre said:

44rh1n said:

DrDre said:

I’ve started work on the colors for Despecialized 3.0

There appears to be quite a bit of splotchy chroma artifacting going on. Is that in the source or is it just the result of crappy web compression? (Are you grading in 10-bit?)

I’m afraid, that’s in the source, although compression may cause it to look worse. I’m using a 10 bit source.

What software are you in? We were having this exact same issue a few weeks ago with Star Wars in Premiere because Premiere defaults to 8-bit processing. But we didn’t have any problems in Resolve, or when we manually enabled 10-bit processing in Premiere.

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#1357770
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Harmy said:

Hello, guys. So, as I said before, I’m getting this month off from work and I’m planning to work on Despecialized.
Now, the reason I’m writing this post is to ask you guys for donations. I hate to do this but as I’m a freelancer, being out of work means I’m not gonna be getting any income and right now, the VFX industry is kind of f*cked, because all filming has stopped due to COVID, so I’m not even sure there will be much payed work for me in the future. Luckily, if it comes to that, I can survive on savings for a while but I will have to cut any extra expenses, so I could really use some help with the software and hardware expenses for Despecialized.
Any donations to harmypaypal@email.cz are welcome and, of course, any donors will get their names in the credits.

Just to be upfront about this, I can’t actually promise any delivery date on Despecialized - I’m starting over with an all new set of sources and right now, I’m still trying to figure out how to properly work with the HDR sources and it’s a bit frustrating. But I’m talking to some guys about possible collaborations, including oohteedee and DrDre, so hopefully, we’ll figure it out together.

I was finally able to send you a small donation today, Harmy. Hope it helps. And I hope you’re doing well during these crazy times! Please let me know if you need anything else! I’m excited to see how 3.0 turns out! (Waiting patiently, of course). 🙂

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#1357720
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Toy Story (1995) 1.5K restoration in 3D (a WIP; v1.0.3 currently available)
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Honestly, I’m trying hard to understand this project, but it’s tough. It’s supposedly a “restoration,” yet you’re releasing a 3D version of it? Toy Story wasn’t released in 3D originally, so I don’t understand how you can call that a restoration. Also, the color grading on that teaser trailer looks very different from what I remember Toy Story looking like when it first released. What’s your color reference? It doesn’t look like a film print, nor does it look like the digital master. So why is the color so strange? Lastly, the amount of banding on that trailer is horrific. If a “restoration” looks this blotchy and compressed and outright ugly, then what’s the point of it? Don’t get me wrong, I love Toy Story and I love the idea of fixing some of the changes that Disney made to it in later releases. But this project doesn’t seem to be doing it for me. I hope I’m proven wrong though! 🙂I suppose I should wait to see the final product before casting judgement. Thanks for your work.

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#1357292
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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emanswfan said:

Got a chance to watch the new 4K Dolby Vision version of Lawrence of Arabia, and my goodness did it remind me what a proper film restoration is supposed to look like with the latest tech.

Dang, I’m jealous. I can’t justify forking out over $100 for that Sony boxset right now, especially since I already own Lawrence of Arabia in 4K on VOD. Unfortunately, it’s only in SDR on VOD right now – I’d love to see that new Dolby Vision HDR grade sometime! Hopefully in the future!

EDIT: Never mind. I just checked, and the 4K VOD release has been upgraded to Dolby Vision. Yay for free upgrades! I’ll have to check it out soon.

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#1351905
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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Also, I think Premiere itself might be part of the artifact problem you’ve been having. Turns out Premiere sequences default to 8bit.

  1. My LUT applied in Resolve (how it’s supposed to look):

  1. My LUT applied in Premiere, default sequence settings:

So you have to go into Sequence Settings, and check the “Maximum Bit Depth” checkbox in order for it to display in 10bit. Then the artifacts should disappear.

  1. My LUT applied in Premiere with Maximum Bit Depth checked:

And when you export, you have to check the “Maximum Bit Depth” checkbox in the export window as well. Pretty strange IMO. Not sure why Premiere requires so many extra steps.

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#1351879
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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Harmy said:

I just noticed 44rh1n already provided some LUTs in his post, so I’ll try those.

Now that I have the Star Wars UHD Blu-ray in my hands, I’ve been able to create a new LUT tailored specifically for the film. (The previous two LUTs were simply technical transforms from Rec2020 to Rec709, whereas this new one is a technical transform with some creative adjustments specific for the film’s grade).

Mainly, I got rid of the magenta tint, and adjusted the curve so it’s not so dim. I think it looks really nice, and captures the essence of Star Wars. You’re welcome to use it as a starting point if you’d like.

It’s available in the same folder as the other two, here. It’s the one called “Rec2020ToRec709_CSTCreativeSW.cube.” I’ve also included the .drx file, which is the custom node tree I made in Resolve to create this LUT, so you can tweak it to your own liking if preferred.

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#1351819
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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oohteedee said:

Harmy said:

Just a hypothetical - if one used a LUT on an adjustment layer above everything and then graded everything so that it looks good with the LUT and then exported a 10bit file without the LUT, could this be used as HDR output?

Even then without an HDR monitor you don’t know how it’s going to look until it’s fully rendered and viewed in HDR on your TV.

Really you need to do your adjustments in HDR with a proper monitor for it to work well.

Exactly.

Theoretically, you “can,” but it certainly wouldn’t produce a great result. Monitoring in HDR is a must if you want to master in HDR.

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#1351806
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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Harmy said:

OK, I see 😃

That workflow is a great way to future-proof your work though! If you used that workflow (doing all the grading underneath the LUT), then your entire grade would be preserved within that flat, logrithmic color space, which could then be used to create an HDR output in the future with minimal effort (after reference-caliber HDR monitors come down in price).

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#1351802
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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Harmy said:

Just a hypothetical - if one used a LUT on an adjustment layer above everything and then graded everything so that it looks good with the LUT and then exported a 10bit file without the LUT, could this be used as HDR output?

Theoretically, yes, as long as the export is flagged as HDR. This can be done in Resolve under the color management settings.

However, when producing HDR content, in order for it to be worthwhile, it needs to be created using an actual HDR monitor. Otherwise the film could end up looking fine in SDR, but then looks totally different than intended in HDR. (You’d basically be doing an HDR grade blindly).

While decent SDR monitors for content creation are relatively cheap these days, monitors for HDR content creation are still very expensive - like the Sony X300 or the FSI XM310X. Although some prosumer displays are starting to get pretty good - like the ASUS ProArt PA32UCX and the Apple Pro Display XDR. (Still expensive though).

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#1351785
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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oohteedee said:

In the screenshots you posted I don’t see where you select 10bit. How do you know it’s being processed as 10bit?
It could still be processing it as 8bit but then saving it in a 10bit ProRes file. It would only be 8bit info but in a 10bit wrapper.

That’s why I prefer command line because you have complete control of the workflow.

If it outputs a ffmpeg log file you can confirm its workflow with that.

That’s super smart. And you may be right. I’m fairly certain that doing it this way in Hybrid preserves the 10bit during the entire process though. If it didn’t, then I’d be seeing the artifacting that Harmy was seeing when he did the conversion in Media Encoder, as well as the artifacting seen in MPV. But the Hybrid conversion is totally clean. The input file is 10bit, the output file is 10bit, and there’s no artifacting at all. So I’m pretty positive it stayed as 10bit the whole time. But you’re right, knowing that for certain is definitely great. I might have to read up on how to do the command line. But for now, Hybrid gets the job done for me. (Especially with my original workflow of rewrapping to MP4 and then doing the ProRes conversion in Resolve. That definitely preserves the 10bit). 🙂

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#1351776
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Info: Guide for Working with 4K HDR Blu-ray Rips in SDR
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On the Jobs tab what does the progress percentage show? For me, even with a powerful computer it takes several hours to complete the entire conversion from HEVC to ProRes. Sometimes it might show that one task is finished, but the progress as a whole hasn’t totally finished.

oohteedee said:

Try the command I posted instead of using hybrid. It works.

Doing the whole movie can take 8 or more hours depending on how fast your machine is.

Or do this! I’m a GUI man myself, but command line can be more robust if you know how to use it, and it looks like oohteedee definitely knows how!