Which versions did you guys download? I’m not having any issues on my end, and this is the first I’m hearing about this issue. But I definitely want to troubleshoot it if multiple people are having this problem! 🙂
I was able to grab this and have it on my hard drive. What’s interesting (in a sad way) is that VLC gives me no center channel.
That’s very strange! Audio works like a charm for me in VLC. MPV is also a great free player and it works great too. If it’s any consolation, the DTS-HD MA 6.1 and DTS 5.1 tracks were lifted directly from the Blu-ray with no tampering whatsoever (other than merging parts 1 & 2 together with mkvmerge for V3).
I don’t get how it’s even possible for 44rh1n to send people a Dungeon Master. I mean, that’s cool and all, but put air holes in the packaging.
Hahah 😂
DrDre said:
The titles could indeed use a little more red, but the blue in the opening shots is something of the later home video releases. All the prints show the planet in the background being gray:
Those titles are much improved! It’s crazy how much of a difference a subtle change can make. 🙂
Any thoughts about the “Episode IV: A New Hope” lines?
Here’s the current status of the colors for Despecialized 3.0 (with some tweaks):
Great work! My only thought this time around is that maybe the opening shots could use a bit of color separation / color contrast. Right now, they look a tad faded, with a bit too much of a brown tint IMO. In particular, we’re lacking a bit of blue all around.
The colors in the opening titles feel off to me as well. Same problem. The “Star Wars” title and opening crawl actually look slightly lime green.
Also, the green beams and the explosion both lack the “punch” that I always recall feeling when the movie first starts.
I know you’re using prints for reference, which is awesome. So I may be wrong. But I wonder if the prints aren’t as accurate as we sometimes like to think they are. I think they’re a great reference – But I also believe we can actually improve on them while also retaining the spirit of their overall look.
I actually think Harmy’s Despecialized 2.7 is a great color reference for these opening shots. You might might argue they’re tiny bit oversaturated, but they have the color separation I’m talking about:
One last note: Is that “A New Hope” line going to stay in the crawl for Despecialized 3.0? (It’s actually the one change George made that I like; but I know a lot of people on here might want that gone.) Just curious, more than anything.
Awesome work!! Can’t wait to see more! So excited for this! 🙂
4Kxx is a full on preservation, whereas Despecialized seems to have pivoted towards a somewhat modern restoration. So in my opinion, GOUT sync makes sense to me for Despecialized.
The artifacts in the Tatooine shots can be reduced:
Awesome! Yeah, that looks a lot cleaner now. Great work! 🙂
Here’s the current status of the color grading:
It’s looking really great so far!! My only note would be the pinkish blocky artifacting that seems to be present quite a bit. Maybe it’s just a limitation with the source? It doesn’t appear to be too major, but for pixel-peepers like myself it’s still noticeable.
I WAS thinking about buying the individual 4k releases of the Original Trilogy just to check out the “new” transfer. From everything I can gather, these don’t have Dolby Vision. Isn’t Dolby Vision the standard for true HDR color/contrast interpretation on 4k OLED displays? We get the higher resolution but we don’t get the true HDR color range with these discs?
Send help.
Disney Hasn’t released/ re-release tiles with Dolby Vision on Disc for a while. They do have standard HDR10. The only way to get DV is either stream their titles or Download them using the Included Digital code or D+.
Well that’s disappointing.
Yeah, I believe the last Dolby Vision physical release from Disney was The Last Jedi. However, the new 2019 disc of The Last Jedi doesn’t have Dolby Vision anymore… It’s only on the original release. Pretty lame. I wish they’d bring back Dolby Vision to their physical releases.
But at the same time, I’m at least glad Disney’s a huge deliverer of Dolby Vision on Disney+. That makes me happy.
I WAS thinking about buying the individual 4k releases of the Original Trilogy just to check out the “new” transfer. From everything I can gather, these don’t have Dolby Vision. Isn’t Dolby Vision the standard for true HDR color/contrast interpretation on 4k OLED displays? We get the higher resolution but we don’t get the true HDR color range with these discs?
Send help.
HDR10 has the exact same HDR color range as Dolby Vision. The difference is that Dolby Vision’s tonemapping is created by the colorists/filmmakers rather than automatically created by the TV. This means if you have a very high quality, expensive OLED TV, then Dolby Vision and HDR10 should theoretically look exactly the same. The problem with HDR10 arises when it’s viewed on cheap HDR TVs that aren’t capable of producing the full color gamut (or close to the full gamut), so the TV’s automatic — and very crappy — tonemapping kicks in to remap the color gamut to fit the display.
So yes, Dolby Vision is superior. But HDR10 isn’t bad — What makes HDR10 look bad is a bad TV.
Also, the Dolby Vision standard is capable of 12-bit color, which is of course capable of producing a wider range of colors than the 10-bit color maximum of HDR10. But the vast majority of Dolby Vision content right now is only 10-bit anyway.
I agree that it’s really dumb Disney has neglected Dolby Vision on physical media. But HDR10 is still hood, and the digital codes will give you the Dolby Vision versions if by chance your TV doesn’t bode well with HDR10.
Here’s C-3PO and R2-D2’s arrival on Tatooine:
Great work so far! But I can’t help but feel like this particular scene lacks a bit of color separation now. I think some of the blue needs to be brought back into the sky and in R2 just a little bit, to give it the color contrast that it needs. Not to the crazy extent of the 2011 Blu-ray, of course, but just a little bit. (Right now, it’s is feeling kind of like a faded, brownish film print rather than a color-accurate film print). 🙂
Amazing work.
I have the BD Extended Edition trilogy. I would love to have a copy of this masterpiece if it’s still available. I am happy to offer proof of ownership and a PayPal contribution.Thanks! Feel free to send me a DM, if you haven’t already. And my restoration is free for anyone who owns the extended Blu-ray (it’s important to support the filmmakers and studios who make the films we love). Fan restorations should never be bought or sold. 🙂 But if you’re interested in donating towards the creation of future restoration releases, you’re absolutely welcome to. It’s completely optional, of course. https://www.paypal.me/44rh1n/
I know what a PM is, what does this uncommon DM mean?
It’s not uncommon. DM = Direct Message, PM = Private Message. They’re the same thing. 🙂
It’s uncommon on this site.
If that’s really the case and you think “DM” would have caused confusion, then thanks for letting me know. I just edited the post to say “PM” instead.
I honestly never thought a single person would have misunderstood what “DM” meant though, haha. 🙂
Amazing work.
I have the BD Extended Edition trilogy. I would love to have a copy of this masterpiece if it’s still available. I am happy to offer proof of ownership and a PayPal contribution.Thanks! Feel free to send me a DM, if you haven’t already. And my restoration is free for anyone who owns the extended Blu-ray (it’s important to support the filmmakers and studios who make the films we love). Fan restorations should never be bought or sold. 🙂 But if you’re interested in donating towards the creation of future restoration releases, you’re absolutely welcome to. It’s completely optional, of course. https://www.paypal.me/44rh1n/
I know what a PM is, what does this uncommon DM mean?
It’s not uncommon. DM = Direct Message, PM = Private Message. They’re the same thing. 🙂
Amazing work.
I have the BD Extended Edition trilogy. I would love to have a copy of this masterpiece if it’s still available. I am happy to offer proof of ownership and a PayPal contribution.
Thanks! Feel free to send me a PM, if you haven’t already. And my restoration is free for anyone who owns the extended Blu-ray (it’s important to support the filmmakers and studios who make the films we love). Fan restorations should never be bought or sold. 🙂 But if you’re interested in donating towards the creation of future restoration releases, you’re absolutely welcome to. It’s completely optional, of course. https://www.paypal.me/44rh1n/
Here’s an update:
Looks really awesome! Great work! Much better than the first pass 😉
I’ve started work on the colors for Despecialized 3.0
There appears to be quite a bit of splotchy chroma artifacting going on. Is that in the source or is it just the result of crappy web compression? (Are you grading in 10-bit?)
I’m afraid, that’s in the source, although compression may cause it to look worse. I’m using a 10 bit source.
What software are you in? We were having this exact same issue a few weeks ago with Star Wars in Premiere because Premiere defaults to 8-bit processing. But we didn’t have any problems in Resolve, or when we manually enabled 10-bit processing in Premiere.
I’ve started work on the colors for Despecialized 3.0
There appears to be quite a bit of splotchy chroma artifacting going on. Is that in the source or is it just the result of crappy web compression? (Are you grading in 10-bit?)
Here’s the promised video: https://youtu.be/5ByflKACiBQ
Thanks for the update! It’s looking great!
Hello, guys. So, as I said before, I’m getting this month off from work and I’m planning to work on Despecialized.
Now, the reason I’m writing this post is to ask you guys for donations. I hate to do this but as I’m a freelancer, being out of work means I’m not gonna be getting any income and right now, the VFX industry is kind of f*cked, because all filming has stopped due to COVID, so I’m not even sure there will be much payed work for me in the future. Luckily, if it comes to that, I can survive on savings for a while but I will have to cut any extra expenses, so I could really use some help with the software and hardware expenses for Despecialized.
Any donations to harmypaypal@email.cz are welcome and, of course, any donors will get their names in the credits.Just to be upfront about this, I can’t actually promise any delivery date on Despecialized - I’m starting over with an all new set of sources and right now, I’m still trying to figure out how to properly work with the HDR sources and it’s a bit frustrating. But I’m talking to some guys about possible collaborations, including oohteedee and DrDre, so hopefully, we’ll figure it out together.
I was finally able to send you a small donation today, Harmy. Hope it helps. And I hope you’re doing well during these crazy times! Please let me know if you need anything else! I’m excited to see how 3.0 turns out! (Waiting patiently, of course). 🙂
Honestly, I’m trying hard to understand this project, but it’s tough. It’s supposedly a “restoration,” yet you’re releasing a 3D version of it? Toy Story wasn’t released in 3D originally, so I don’t understand how you can call that a restoration. Also, the color grading on that teaser trailer looks very different from what I remember Toy Story looking like when it first released. What’s your color reference? It doesn’t look like a film print, nor does it look like the digital master. So why is the color so strange? Lastly, the amount of banding on that trailer is horrific. If a “restoration” looks this blotchy and compressed and outright ugly, then what’s the point of it? Don’t get me wrong, I love Toy Story and I love the idea of fixing some of the changes that Disney made to it in later releases. But this project doesn’t seem to be doing it for me. I hope I’m proven wrong though! 🙂I suppose I should wait to see the final product before casting judgement. Thanks for your work.
Got a chance to watch the new 4K Dolby Vision version of Lawrence of Arabia, and my goodness did it remind me what a proper film restoration is supposed to look like with the latest tech.
Dang, I’m jealous. I can’t justify forking out over $100 for that Sony boxset right now, especially since I already own Lawrence of Arabia in 4K on VOD. Unfortunately, it’s only in SDR on VOD right now – I’d love to see that new Dolby Vision HDR grade sometime! Hopefully in the future!
EDIT: Never mind. I just checked, and the 4K VOD release has been upgraded to Dolby Vision. Yay for free upgrades! I’ll have to check it out soon.
Nice!
I wish Premiere had more robust color management options (or any color management options, for that matter). It’s a great NLE, but it really struggles color-wise.
Oh, yeah, I know that and have that turned on 😃
🙂 👍 Awesome.
Also, I think Premiere itself might be part of the artifact problem you’ve been having. Turns out Premiere sequences default to 8bit.
So you have to go into Sequence Settings, and check the “Maximum Bit Depth” checkbox in order for it to display in 10bit. Then the artifacts should disappear.
And when you export, you have to check the “Maximum Bit Depth” checkbox in the export window as well. Pretty strange IMO. Not sure why Premiere requires so many extra steps.
