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SilverWook said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I thoroughly hate Darth Göring and Emperor Skeletor, so I won’t mention them.

Tell me how you really feel.

I really, really wanna fuck Daisy Ridley.

TMI

The fact that things got this bad is unsurprising. 😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

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Nah. All that happened was that we moved from “things that are not to some people’s tastes” to “things that are not to some other people’s tastes” with some venn diagram overlap.

The Drink in Question

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IMO Disney’s biggest mistake when acquiring Lucasfilm was shutting down their videogame division LucasArts, and then giving EA exclusive licence to make SW games. That’s wrong on so many levels.

I prefer the older model where LucasArts commissioned the SW licence to a game company and they handled the publishing and distribution of whatever game was produced. Sure, it wasn’t perfect, but I think it’s way better than what we have now.

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LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I thoroughly hate Darth Göring and Emperor Skeletor, so I won’t mention them.

Tell me how you really feel.

I really, really wanna fuck Daisy Ridley.

Why such hate for my boys Vader and Sidious?

I draw a distinction between Darth Vader (the main villain of SW '77 & TESB) & Darth Göring (the milksop of ROTJ & the PT who gets to go to Jedi Heaven after a lifetime of mass murder just 'cause he loved his son really, really hard).

And I hate Darth Henrietta for being a dimensionless Saturday morning cartoon supervillain.

Arrivederci.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I thoroughly hate Darth Göring and Emperor Skeletor, so I won’t mention them.

Tell me how you really feel.

I really, really wanna fuck Daisy Ridley.

Why such hate for my boys Vader and Sidious?

I draw a distinction between Darth Vader (the main villain of SW '77 & TESB) & Darth Göring (the milksop of ROTJ & the PT who gets to go to Jedi Heaven after a lifetime of mass murder just 'cause he loved his son really, really hard).

And I hate Darth Henrietta for being a dimensionless Saturday morning cartoon supervillain.

To each their own I guess.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Auntie Derry/Rumpelstiltskin.
Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night. “Stay Phrosty” - Lemar Kentell, my other half. Feel the love.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LordZerome1080 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I thoroughly hate Darth Göring and Emperor Skeletor, so I won’t mention them.

Tell me how you really feel.

I really, really wanna fuck Daisy Ridley.

Why such hate for my boys Vader and Sidious?

I draw a distinction between Darth Vader (the main villain of SW '77 & TESB) & Darth Göring (the milksop of ROTJ & the PT who gets to go to Jedi Heaven after a lifetime of mass murder just 'cause he loved his son really, really hard).

And I hate Darth Henrietta for being a dimensionless Saturday morning cartoon supervillain.

I agree.
I didn’t mind the ending for ROTJ at the time, but now that I watch the film it’s like, wait, Darth Vader helped destroy an entire planet full of people.
There’s no turning back from that.
I love Return of the Jedi as it’s the first Star Wars film I saw as a kid, but man, is it flawed.

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace. Luke and Leia being bro and sis. Vader becoming good again, just because he didn’t let the Emperor kill his son. Obi-wan justifying lying by saying, “it’s true…from a certain point of view.” That was all some BS.

Some tweaks could have fixed some of those parts.
Luke simply waving his hand at the guards and they lower their weapons and allow his passge.
Obi-wan just saying Luke wasn’t ready for the truth, and leave it at that.
The funeral pyre for Vader, along with the score, is just enough. No need to have Force ghost Yoda and Obi-wan AND Anakin appear.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

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LordZerome1080 said:

Voss Caltrez said:

No.

The Force Awakens was a hit.
Rogue One was a hit.
The Last Jedi was a hit, but split fandom based on how the story played out. That’s understandable with an old franchise like this and an iconic character returns in a way that not everyone agrees with.

Solo lost money though.
Why?
Maybe one reason is that the public is getting tired of a Star Wars-related movie every year.
But I don’t think because of one spin-off didn’t do well and fandom split on TLJ that Disney killed Star Wars.
If anything, they revived it.
I’m not a big fan of the new trilogy, but they managed to bring some of the magic back to the franchise: characters that you actually like and care about, the funny/comedic moments, and more believable worlds that aren’t just green screens.

Kylo Ren alone is more interesting than any character of the prequels, and probably more interesting than the portrayals of our favorite group in Return of the Jedi.

No just no. Crylo Ruin is never going to be interesting. You need to rewatch ROTJ because the characters are interesting unlike the st where all original trilogy characters get ruined and all the magic gets stamped out.

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I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

https://screamsinthevoid.deviantart.com/

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Congrats to the OP. This thread reads like a Youtube comments section.

I assume that’s what you were going for.

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screams in the void said:

I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

The whole idea of this thread is subjective because to those of us who prefer and/or grew up with the EU only to see it and the original actors flipped off has killed Star Wars’ essence, now the only thing left is the bloated corporate shell.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Auntie Derry/Rumpelstiltskin.
Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night. “Stay Phrosty” - Lemar Kentell, my other half. Feel the love.

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LordZerome1080 said:

screams in the void said:

I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

The whole idea of this thread is subjective because to those of us who prefer and/or grew up with the EU only to see it and the original actors flipped off has killed Star Wars’ essence, now the only thing left is the bloated corporate shell.

When was Star Wars never a bloated corporate shell?

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Mavimao said:

LordZerome1080 said:

screams in the void said:

I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

The whole idea of this thread is subjective because to those of us who prefer and/or grew up with the EU only to see it and the original actors flipped off has killed Star Wars’ essence, now the only thing left is the bloated corporate shell.

When was Star Wars never a bloated corporate shell?

1976

DESTROY ALL JEDI

My name is Sprite Pepsi and I’m abstinence till I die!

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Mavimao said:

LordZerome1080 said:

screams in the void said:

I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

The whole idea of this thread is subjective because to those of us who prefer and/or grew up with the EU only to see it and the original actors flipped off has killed Star Wars’ essence, now the only thing left is the bloated corporate shell.

When was Star Wars never a bloated corporate shell?

May, 1977.

JEDIT:Damn you, Snooker! 😛

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LordZerome1080 said:

screams in the void said:

I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

The whole idea of this thread is subjective because to those of us who prefer and/or grew up with the EU only to see it and the original actors flipped off has killed Star Wars’ essence, now the only thing left is the bloated corporate shell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

https://screamsinthevoid.deviantart.com/

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Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Arrivederci.

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screams in the void said:

LordZerome1080 said:

screams in the void said:

I very much enjoyed The Last Jedi and Solo …Resistance I am not crazy about and will just follow the plot through online reviews . And no , Star Wars was not killed by Disney , It is very much alive and I hear they are even making books , comics , video games and a theme park .Just the facts folks .

The whole idea of this thread is subjective because to those of us who prefer and/or grew up with the EU only to see it and the original actors flipped off has killed Star Wars’ essence, now the only thing left is the bloated corporate shell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

Exactly

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Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night. “Stay Phrosty” - Lemar Kentell, my other half. Feel the love.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

I never saw Evil Dead II. I wonder if The Emperor would have been better if the actor had gone with the initial advice of doing the same type of voice from ESB?

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Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

The Jedi interpretation of the Force is just that — an interpretation. Just because they view the Force through some quasi-Objectivist framework which recognizes no shades of gray doesn’t mean the Force is truly like that.

The greatest failure of the SW films — and the franchise as a whole, really — is this idea that the Jedi have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on the Force and that any path differing from theirs is deficient.

Arrivederci.

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Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

I never saw Evil Dead II. I wonder if The Emperor would have been better if the actor had gone with the initial advice of doing the same type of voice from ESB?

Here’s what I don’t get - killing Palpatine because he is in the throes of annihilating entire shipfuls of sentient beings with a super-laser is ‘the Dark Side’. Killing Palpatine because he’s zapping your son with Force-lightning is ‘the Good Side’.

Sounds like BS to me…

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It’s a trick and a trap, because Luke would never be able to kill the Emperor while Vader is there to stop him. Palpatine is very confident of that, or he wouldn’t take Luke’s binders off.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

The Jedi interpretation of the Force is just that — an interpretation. Just because they view the Force through some quasi-Objectivist framework which recognizes no shades of gray doesn’t mean the Force is truly like that.

The greatest failure of the SW films — and the franchise as a whole, really — is this idea that the Jedi have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on the Force and that any path differing from theirs is deficient.

I disagree. It is Lucas who invented this universe and its rules. He deliberately opted to introduce the concept of the Force and a dark side, a universe without many shades of grey. It is not a fault, it is part of its identity. I don’t see why the Star Wars universe should be made to conform to our own real world sense of morality. In my view this weakens the mythology.

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DrDre said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

The Jedi interpretation of the Force is just that — an interpretation. Just because they view the Force through some quasi-Objectivist framework which recognizes no shades of gray doesn’t mean the Force is truly like that.

The greatest failure of the SW films — and the franchise as a whole, really — is this idea that the Jedi have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on the Force and that any path differing from theirs is deficient.

I disagree. It is Lucas who invented this universe and its rules. He deliberately opted to introduce the concept of the Force and a dark side, a universe without many shades of grey. It is not a fault, it is part of its identity. I don’t see why the Star Wars universe should be made to conform to our own real world sense of morality. In my view this weakens the mythology.

I guess you could say this is among the top 3 reasons why I’m a lapsed Star Wars fan. Not only do I no longer believe in its fundamental worldview, I find that worldview utterly repugnant.

Arrivederci.

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Shopping Maul said:

Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

I never saw Evil Dead II. I wonder if The Emperor would have been better if the actor had gone with the initial advice of doing the same type of voice from ESB?

Here’s what I don’t get - killing Palpatine because he is in the throes of annihilating entire shipfuls of sentient beings with a super-laser is ‘the Dark Side’. Killing Palpatine because he’s zapping your son with Force-lightning is ‘the Good Side’.

Sounds like BS to me…

It’s been awhile since I’ve watched ROTJ, but yeah, even then I remember Luke’s decision real questionable.
He won’t fight his father, okay.
The Emperor?
He won’t fight him either. He even throws his ligth saber to the ground, to show he’s about non-violence.
So…what was his plan? Convince Vader to be good again. Maybe that might work since he’s is father.
But what about the Emperor? How was he going to defeat him? With a well-reasoned argument?
If Luke was all Ghandi-like, where was that vow of non-violence on Jabba’s barge?