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Here's a new take. How do you rate the characters/actors in the PT vs. the OT in overall lovability and memorability?

my take:

I think the actors of the OT, perhaps being a function also of the late 70's zeitgeist, pulled off the cheesiness of Star Wars in a way that you really got into it. A more subtle humor throughout (i.e. no Jar Jar hijinks). And while Mark Hamill was a tool, characters like Han Solo, Chewie, Lando, and Leia identified with us in the way good storytelling always does. The PT characters/actors seemed so distant and serious - we could never really identify with them - and humor was reserved for droids who pee oil and silly accents rivaling Monty Python.

Ewan and Liam were in a league of their own. And perhaps Frank Oz and Samuel to a degree. And the fellow who played Palpatine had a few moments. But did you ever take a liking to Hayden or Natalie Portman? Really? All they did was whine and deliver these concrete-encased lines. The Jango Fett guy? Boo. Or any of the ancilliary characters like Organa? And that annoying little bastard who played Annakin in TPM?

And quoteability? There are only two lines in the PT which I can remember at any given time. 1) "I was wondering...what ARE mitichlorians?" and Darth Vader's frankensteinian "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!" vs. "And I thought they smelled bad...on the OUTSIDE!" or "She's the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy." or "Would it help if I got out and pushed?" or "Luke, I am your father." or "scruffy looking nerfherder!" or even "yo to! yo to! (because he's holding a thermal detenator!)."

Anyhow.
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hahaha this is funny, of course it was the OT overall, but some of the characters in the PT were great, PT obiwan is probably my favorite character in the entire series. PT yoda was great too. but the ot has han solo, luke, and vader. those three alone tip the balance of the scale.
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Ewan, Ian, Liam, Alec, Mark, Peter and Harrison are the greatest actors in the saga.
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Who did Watto again? I secretly kind of got a kick out of him.

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I liked Watto too.

Anyway, the person I'm fuzzy on is Natalie Portman. I know the writing was really bad, and that GL is notorious for not being an "actor's director" but her lines were always flat. And it gets worse as the prequels go along. I dunno, I just *sometimes* think she may have been miscast, but that's just me.
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You guys are forgetting Maul. The OT is awesome, but without the PT, we'd never have gotten Maul.

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Oh yeah, Watto was played by Andrew Secombe. (Heh... IMDB)
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Who's the guy that does the voice of Maul cos he was on the Sky1 special "Star Wars...Feel the force".
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Darth Maul was Ray Park! I don't even need IMDB for that one, because he was also Toad in X-Men.

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Never mind. After checking IMDB, it turns out that Ray Park was just the body and Peter Serafinowicz provided the voice.
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No, no, no. Micheal ??? did the voice of Maul he was on Star Wars...feel the force.

Ray Park has a strong Liverpool or whatever Brit accent, that's why he couldn't do the voice.
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IMDB says it was Peter Serafinowicz. But, IMDB isn't always right I guess.
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Overall the OT wins easily. Hayden and Natalie are unbearable. However, Ewan McGregor really is a great Obi Wan, especially in the third movie and there's a reason why Mark Hamill never got an acting career after starring in one of the most succesful films of all time... But if you weigh Alec Guiness, Harrison Ford, etc. against a couple of good actors in the prequels and an army of flat or even ridiculous deliveries it's a no brainer. The original actors had presence, the new ones lack substance or are just bad (with a few exceptions, as I said before).
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Mark Hamill has had a decent voice acting career since Starwars.

He doesn't appear in movies, supposedly because of the scars from the accident he suffered between ANH and ESB.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Mark Hamill has had a decent voice acting career since Starwars.

He doesn't appear in movies, supposedly because of the scars from the accident he suffered between ANH and ESB.


True. I was unfair. It's just that Luke's character is just a tool for me, too insipid. The weight falls on Han Solo, Vader, etc.
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The PT, through all of its shortcomings, made Obi-Wan Kenobi my favorite Star Wars character.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Mark Hamill has had a decent voice acting career since Starwars.

He doesn't appear in movies, supposedly because of the scars from the accident he suffered between ANH and ESB.



Dude have ever seen film Slipstream or howabout the tv show "The flash" that Mark Hamill episode where he plays the Trickster


*cringe cringe cringe cringe cringe*
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......."Corvette Summer" and "The Big Red one"is Hamill's best work. nuff said
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Mark Hamill has had a decent voice acting career since Starwars.

He doesn't appear in movies, supposedly because of the scars from the accident he suffered between ANH and ESB.


He has appeared in some movies. But, from what I've read, his rule is that he either needs to be in makeup (Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back) or with a full beard (Comic Book: The Movie) to show up in front of the camera. Whatever will hide his scars. Botched skin grafts, or so I'm told.
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Cocknocker. LOL
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"You're not going to upstage me Van-Der-Beek!!!"

Getting back to topic, this poll is way to close for comfort. I say we call it a draw.
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin
"You're not going to upstage me Van-Der-Beek!!!"

Getting back to topic, this poll is way to close for comfort. I say we call it a draw.


Don't give up!!! I was *really* pulling for Ahmed Best to win...
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Ahmed looks like a good guy to hang around with.
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin
Getting back to topic, this poll is way to close for comfort. I say we call it a draw.


I want... to... type... something... so bad... but am... laughing... too hard...

ROTFLMFAO
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Carrie looks so young in A New Hope, she looks about 25 in Empire and Jedi.
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