what is everyones musical influence and any musicans here — Page 3

adywan said:

haljordan28 said:

I never claimed motley crue or whitesnake did and as a matter off act they are quite easy.  Difficult would be country lead or rockabilly or jazz and flamengo.

 

It is easy to hide behind a ton of distortion and  miss notes and pull off bends that  do not even hit the  exact note you are looking for.  you can  get CLOSE with rock and the blues  but with country lead  you have to be  prescice  because you are mimicking   a pedal steal which is done by mechanics...also   the spped at which they play leads   going through  clean channels and HYBRID picking on top of that..not  flat picking wanking like rock guitar..is just a  sheer testament to their skills. 

Zack Wylde  said it best  "country lead players are from another planet" truth is they are not. they just put in the time to play like masters  and they dont hide behind distortion. they are truly the best of the best

haljordan28 said:

Yeah I bet it's easy to criticize a music genre when you obviously know absolutely nothing about it.

People like you make me laugh.

I know guitar  and I know what is difficult to play and what it not. If you think metal is then you clearly know jack shit about guitar playing.

what makes it hard?  Do tell?  Explain to us all what techniques are involved  in death metal guitar that  makes it the slightest bit challenging?

Laugh  at yourself.

Now it's this type of attitude that really pisses me off. You have a really high and mighty attitude that "your type of music" is better than all the rest and you look down on other who play a different style. I played guitar/bass/keyboards/drums for just under 20 years before my health forced me to never be able to play again. I'm a metal fan but i also listen to a very wide variety of music and also enjoyed to play the same variety. But it was the ones that classed looked down on others that really got on my nerves. The amount of times that i challenged these "great" guitarists to play metal/rock and they failed miserably always put a smile on my face. Now a few of these people i knew personally and  they worked as session musicians. they had worked with some very big names like Van Morrison, Joe Cocker, Eric Clapton, to name a few. Now my old band lost its guitarist a few weeks before we had an important gig so we asked one of the session musicians we knew if he could fill in because i had now turned away from the guitar for live work to concentrate more on being the vocalist. Now this guy isn't one of the ones that ever looked down on other music genres. We has seen him play many times and he was an amazing guitarist. His main styles were Country & Blues. Now we gave him a tape of the set a few weeks before the gig and he said he could learn it by just listening to it, which is the way he worked with a lot of people he played session guitar for. The night of the gig cam and you could see how much he was struggling to play our music. He freely admitted after that he didn't think before hand that this style of music would have been so hard to play and that he was wrong.

Now it was thanks to this person that, in the late 80's,  i had the amazing opportunity to have an after hours acoustic jam session in a local county pub with none other than Robert Plant and Eric Clapton. It went on until the early hours in the morning and was one of the highlights of my life. I really wish someone could have recorded it as this was something to show the grandkids.

Now in every genre of music you have the good, the bad and the great. To say that musicians in a certain genre are better than the rest is just plain music snobbery and i really have no time for these types.

Now i'm not a death metal fan by a long shot but to say that it's easy just proves to me that you haven't even bothered trying to play it. Now again there are a lot of death metal bands that just play the same old stuff with the more simple riffs and solos but there are also those that have very talented guitarists that go against the norm.  Now i really can't stand listening to this type of metal, but my daughter loves it. But every now and then i hear a guitarist that just catches my ear and i just can't help listening to the track.

So maybe you should laugh at yourself instead of dismissing others so quickly.

 

How do ypu know if I dont play any metal? lol.  As a matter of fact I do.

I agree that a great classical guitarist could not just pick up a guitar and do what vai or eddie van halen does. Each style is a discipline all it's own.

What I am saying is that if you take a guitar player and sit him down  there are certain styles that are much more difficult to master than others. Rock and BLues and yes metal is included in the rock genre  are the two easiest styles to master.

if the truth offends some of you  too bad cause I dont know what to tell you. Go wank some Root and 5ths.

"I come from a deep rooted bluegrass and country background, and I fingerpick "Clawhammer like: Atkins, Reed, and Knoplfer", I can flat out say you really don't know what you are talking about. Distortion has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's hands first, pickups second, amp last. Even the greats of country use distortion from time to time."

what am I saying that makes me not know what I am talking about? Of copurse some country pickers use distortion at times if its what the song calls for  but it is a rare thing. they use many different tones but rarly is distortion used. Unless you are refering to todays fake pop  country  crap.

As far as picking with a thumb pick and or finger picks like chet  jerry  and chets other student mark knoplfer..I dont understand why you threw that in and think that contributes to going against what I am saying?  Finger picking that way is not easy   either  but countrys real bread and butter and butter picking style..for  LEAD anyways is hybrid picking  cause it helps facilitate the technques involved to play country lead..IE  banjo rolls,  pedal steel bends, double stops  and chicken picken technque which most  uneducated  players thinks means just to play  fast  but is actually a technique in and of its self created by james burton where you get a conculsive echo after the strike that sounds like a chicken clucking...THESE  are the techniques that few  very few ever master  and yes  they are 99% of the time done through a clean channel ....unless you want to hear bandjo rolls and pedal steel licks  distorted lol

  Come on  educate me some more!

haljordan28 said:

How do ypu know if I dont play any metal? lol.  As a matter of fact I do.

Considering you've only recently been exposed to Dio and Ozzy I somehow doubt your metal credentials are as extensive as you claim.

And if you haven't observed by now, it's your snobbish attitude that people are having the biggest problem with. You seriously need to learn some humility.

Woah!  Did somebody say music?

Also, haljordan, I'll miss your crazy inane rants! :D

If you guys want to check out my stuff, you can find all of my releases for free download at:

http://vlantis.bandcamp.com/

It's pretty dorky.  Mostly electropop/rock with a dash of old Nintendo.  Lots of guest vocalists show up to keep things interesting.  My last one ("Urotanki") which is sort of a punk/electropop hybrid seemed to be the most popular.  It has girly Japanese vocals, so you might not care for them (yes, I live in Japan.  Yes I'm okay).

The only other one of special note is "Silent Earth of Stone and Iron" which is sort of a dark, ethnic instrumental thing.  Very different than the others.

Working on a ten song album now with the same Japanese vocalist as the last one, but with the way things are going out here, I'm not sure when we'll get together to start recording.