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seriously! does anyone know whatsup with this i am on windows 7 x64 i have installed the trial of tmpgenc and it freezes halfway through the encoode. has anyone ever had this problem? i had payed for cce  and tried everything to get it to work including talking to support. i ended up giving up on cce and getting a refund. tmpg freezes and continues in a stuck state until i stop it. the half of a file left over plays and looks great. i dont know  wtf is the problem the source files i used i ran through the womble gop error fixer before i converted them to lagarith. they were edited in vegas and rendered out to lagarith. i dont know what else to do exept render it out as huffyuv and try again. if anyone has been through this let me know as i have a finished edit and stuck in the last stage. thanks.

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upon trying to render out my edit to huffyuv sony vegas froze at 78% of the render. i have never had vegas freeze at all before. i believe the problem is lagarith. so now i am going back to where i started and make both sources huffyuv and then replace the lagarith sources in my vegas project with huffyuv using the same filenames so that nothing in the edit changes . i think this is the reason my encoders are freezing i have read online that tmpg does not like lagarith. so this is my only recourse.honestly i wish i had never heard the name lagarith. this codec has been 1 headache after another to work with.

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It seems like you've been using a mix of huffyuv and Lagarith, is that right?  If so, that's probably your problem.  It shouldn't matter which you choose, it just needs to be one or the other the whole way through.

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nope no mix. i used lagarith from the start. and honestly i think it was a bad choice. because nothing will encode it. at least no descent mpeg2 encoder. i know others use it with no problems but in my case something about my pc does not like lagarith at all. or maybe i made another stupid mistake somewhere. but last night i proved to myself that its nothing to do with my current windows install or anything thats installed on it. i keep the original harddrive that came with my laptop in an almost factory state and use it with acronis true image to reboot my laptop when needed. so i swapped over to it and installed cce in hope that it would encode on a fresh os with no video junk. failed. i have tried cce, tmpg, and hcencoder. and all freeze upon trying to encode the file. i am frustrated as hell. but no retreat as they say so that is why i am starting over by replacing all my lagarith sources with huffyuv. if this does not solve it then i have no clue what went wrong.

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wait!! i have a question. in vegas i have 4 total video sources. the two complete movie sources and then there is 2 clips. the 2 clips are the old klingon proverb and my new "the whole bloody affair" title.  i used after affects to make the 2 clips and rendered them out as lagarith. but here is my question. in vegas what i did with the 2 clips was i made a new video line over the top of my main video line so that the 2 clips play over the top of the original. just like what you do with the subtitles. when 1 video line is on top of another it plays like a video overlay. the idea in this was to avoid making four cuts to the main video and drop in the clips. i thought about it and now i am not sure if vegas is meant to work this way. could it be that when encoding the video it is screwing it up because it has to encode both the original title and the new title? i know this is confusing the way i am trying to explain this but i dont know how else to word it. instead of cutting out the old title and splicing in the new one i layed the new title over the top of it like a video overlay. was this the wrong way to do it?

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right now i would be happy to render it out to mpg from vegas and be done with it. but it will not stretch the frame back out to 16:9. i choose main concept dv ntsc widescreen template 16:9 and it spits out a 3:2 image in 16:9. i dont know why.

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LOL, I do not know what your problem is, but Lagarith is not it, I only use Lagarith and CCE SP2 and I am running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, so you definitely have other issues going on, it is not your lossless codec.

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well i dont know but something does not work right. because vegas wont even output it to 16:9 when i choose the ntsc dv widescreen template.

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Try HCEnc.  Write an Avisynth script pointing to your final exported lagarith AVI and load it in.  How did you make your initial AVI RGB for editing in Vegas and were you using computer or studio RGB?

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i made a lengthy answer for the above question but i came back and deleted it. because the problem is solved!!!! thank god. after replacing my lagarith sources with huffyuv sources my encoders no longer crash! for once i had a suspicion and it was right. lol. i do not know why lagarith was crashing my encoders and never will. but at least the problem is solved. however i do not think i will be able to use cce for the encode because according to the timecode shown in the front it is missing 14 seconds. i have heard of cce chopping seconds off before does anyone know if there is a fix for this? anyhow i can still encode it in tmpg with no problem. all that is left is to adjust the subs to appease the good people of ot.com.lol  seriously though i owe you guys at least good subs that will be up to your approval. so i will experiment and post pics until we all agree its as good as it gets. thankyou ot......fricking awesome.com

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Pad your timeline with 15 seconds of black at the beginning.

There's probably a better solution, but that's all I've got this time.