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Ryan McAvoy said:

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Nanner Split said:

Warbler said:

 the Marx Brothers



the marx brothers were definitely dirty whenever they could get away with it

compared to today's comedians, they were squeaky clean.

 

They pushed the offensiveness boundaries as far as they could, same as today, only the boundaries where less broad. Groucho lines like...

When talking about a woman of 'lose-morals', in Horsefeathers he says "A 'College Widow' stood for something in my day... in fact, she stood for plenty!" (Raises eyebrows and grins).

When secretly seducing a woman in his hotel room afterhours in 'A Day at the Races', the woman says "I've never been so insulted in my life." and Groucho replies "Well... it's early yet."

and on Groucho's TV show he was interviewing a woman who had 19 kids. When asked why, she replied, "I love my husband" and Groucho responded, "I love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth once in awhile."

He was as offensive as he could get away with.

Another example of a similar thing would be this scene from 1946's 'The Big Sleep'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF_chuSy9G4

...they don't use the actual word but they are obviously talking about f*cking, the studio knew it, the actors knew it and the audience knew it.

 but here is one little difference: little children wouldn't know it.  I would be very comfortable letting my 8 year old niece watch the Marx Brothers.  I would not be comfortable with watching most modern comedians.   Yeah they pushed the boundaries a little and implied some dirty stuff, but todays comedians don't just imply dirty stuff, they outright say it. 

I stand by my former statement:

compared to today's comedians, they were squeaky clean.

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boredom3031 said:

I don't remember saying any of that, only that you sound so condescending to others that do not in fact share your beliefs or views. If you don't like what content is in a film, I will restate the advice Frink posted. Don't watch it, simple as that. Not a single person is forcing you to watch and/or pay for any content that you don't wish to view, that's why there's ratings, and on most tv services the guides telling you what content is in the show or film.

 Sure, he doesn't have to watch what he doesn't like.  Maybe he just wishes there was more of what he does like.

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I'm sure he could catch heaven is for real or noah sometime.

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Hang on...when did I use The Ten Commandments in AOTR?  I have no memory of that.

JEDIT: Never mind, it's technically from The Naked Gun.  I didn't realize they took it from The Ten Commandments, which I've never actually seen.

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Dear Ender,

please do not try to reverse the reality of things now. I wasn't imposing anything on you. I was only defending the freedom of art. I felt you were trying to attack that freedom (and apparently I am not the only one who got that impression from you).

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

Yours sincerely,
imperialsucm,
the defender of free world.

真実

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^I'd like the court to appoint a different defender, please.

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imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hardly true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I want x to be banned. 

There are a lot of people here that wish Jar Jar Binks wasn't in the PT, does this mean they think Lucas should have been banned from using him?  Of course not.

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Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I was x to be banned. 

There are a lot of people here that wish Jar Jar Binks wasn't in the PT, does this mean they think Lucas should have been banned from using him?  Of course not.

 

That's a banning I wouldn't mind.

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Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.

 THIS POST IS RATED NC-17

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TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.

 THIS POST IS RATED NC-17

 It was a stiff reply.

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Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I was x to be banned.

Don't be funny. If someone says "I don't want films to show x", he/she clearly specifies the wish. However the preferable method to achieve that wish is not specified. Someone preventing x from appearing in film is one method that satisfies that wish.

So what other methods are there? Performing brain surgery to change artist's mind? Assassination of artist? Divine intervention? Ban seems like the most reasonable one.

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There are a lot of people here that wish Jar Jar Binks wasn't in the PT, does this mean they think Lucas should have been banned from using him?  Of course not.

Is this another paradox? You wish something to happen but at the same time you don't want it to practically happen?

This is like someone wanting to take a dump but at the same time not wanting to dirty his ass hole.

真実

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TV's Frink said:

Thread needs more sex and Al Gore.

 

Don’t do drugs, unless you’re with me.

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boredom3031 said:

Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I was x to be banned. 

There are a lot of people here that wish Jar Jar Binks wasn't in the PT, does this mean they think Lucas should have been banned from using him?  Of course not.

 

That's a banning I wouldn't mind.

 Agreed...!

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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imperialscum said:

Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I was x to be banned.

Don't be funny. If someone says "I don't want films to show x", he/she clearly specifies the wish. However the preferable method to achieve that wish is not specified. Someone preventing x from appearing in film is one method that satisfies that wish.

So what other methods are there? Performing brain surgery to change artist's mind? Assassination of artist? Divine intervention? Ban seems like the most reasonable one.

I am quite certain one could honestly wish for fewer prime-time showings of slapstick humor without being required to support a complete ban against same...just as one could desire fewer reboots without forming a committee to see about having such a ban enacted through Congress...

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Post Praetorian said:

imperialscum said:

Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I was x to be banned.

Don't be funny. If someone says "I don't want films to show x", he/she clearly specifies the wish. However the preferable method to achieve that wish is not specified. Someone preventing x from appearing in film is one method that satisfies that wish.

So what other methods are there? Performing brain surgery to change artist's mind? Assassination of artist? Divine intervention? Ban seems like the most reasonable one.

I am quite certain one could honestly wish for fewer prime-time showings of slapstick humor without being required to support a complete ban against same...just as one could desire fewer reboots without forming a committee to see about having such a ban enacted through Congress...

Then specify the alternative method...

真実

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imperialscum said:

Post Praetorian said:

imperialscum said:

Warbler said:

imperialscum said:

Statements like "I wish movies didn't show it as not only acceptable but even preferable" are just a softer version of "I want it to be banned".

 that is hard true.  saying I wish movies didn't show x, is quite different than saying I was x to be banned.

Don't be funny. If someone says "I don't want films to show x", he/she clearly specifies the wish. However the preferable method to achieve that wish is not specified. Someone preventing x from appearing in film is one method that satisfies that wish.

So what other methods are there? Performing brain surgery to change artist's mind? Assassination of artist? Divine intervention? Ban seems like the most reasonable one.

I am quite certain one could honestly wish for fewer prime-time showings of slapstick humor without being required to support a complete ban against same...just as one could desire fewer reboots without forming a committee to see about having such a ban enacted through Congress...

Then specify the alternative method...

 Stare bleakly at the movie marquee for several moments...scratch one's head...stare down at one's portable device in search of upcoming releases...heave a great sigh at the results...then state aloud, to no one in particular, "I do wish there were fewer reboots being proposed!"

Return home. Think no more about it...

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Post Praetorian said:

 Stare bleakly at the movie marquee for several moments...scratch one's head...stare down at one's portable device in search of upcoming releases...heave a great sigh at the results...then state aloud, to no one in particular, "I do wish there were fewer reboots being proposed!"

Return home. Think no more about it...

That's no method. It is merely specifying ones wish. The very basic question you need to answer here is: how do you want your wish to happen?

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In regards to Jar Jar, I think most wish Lucas had decided not to use him by choice, via his own free will.  

Wishing for X is not the say as wanting X forced on everyone.   Even if one can't think of another way to get X other than force,  one can still wish for X without wanting to force X on people.   How many guys wish they could have sex with a supermodel?  Yet they know only way it would happen is if they rape a supermodel.  Does this mean that wishing to have sex with a supermodel is the same and wanting to rape a supermodel?      

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I noticed this product and thought how pertinent it was to this thread...

...although a TV advert for it, would of course have been better, for which I apologise.

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boredom3031 said:

I don't remember saying any of that, only that you sound so condescending to others that do not in fact share your beliefs or views. If you don't like what content is in a film, I will restate the advice Frink posted. Don't watch it, simple as that. Not a single person is forcing you to watch and/or pay for any content that you don't wish to view, that's why there's ratings, and on most tv services the guides telling you what content is in the show or film.

 Please tell me the difference between being proud of one's own convictions and being condescending towards others.  I don't watch that stuff, so that's no problem.  I just have an opinion which I shared and did not impose.  What's the difference between me sharing my opinion and you sharing yours?

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boredom3031 said:

I'm sure he could catch heaven is for real or noah sometime.

 Are you really so dense?  Don't you wish I shared your opinion that such should be permissible to all who want it (which I believe I have stated I already agree with)?  I believe people should have the choice to make many decisions I find wrong.  I just wish they would choose right anyway.  Is that a difficult concept to grasp?

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darth_ender said:

boredom3031 said:

I'm sure he could catch heaven is for real or noah sometime.

 Are you really so dense?  Don't you wish I shared your opinion that such should be permissible to all who want it (which I believe I have stated I already agree with)?  I believe people should have the choice to make many decisions I find wrong.  I just wish they would choose right anyway.  Is that a difficult concept to grasp?

 

No, I wouldn't lose any sleep over you not liking something that I like. It wouldn't even be a passing thought in my mind in any of my days. I'm sorry. But I just wouldn't care.