The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 514

The people know their symbol, from TLJ, yes.

axlanian said:

The graffiti messages should be in Aurebesh, right?

Maybe a little Aurebesh for the aesthetic, but I think most of the text should be in English. We can’t really focus on the artwork at all (…can we?), so I think we need to go with whatever’s most apparent and accessible to a casual viewer. If people see a bunch of hieroglyphs, it won’t convey anything; if people see messages they can actually read, the intent will be clear.

Obviously, the pictures and symbolism will help, but are people going to notice that and understand the significance of it with a quick glance in the background? I don’t think they would. “SKYWALKER LIVES!” That would catch their eye, and make everything that much more apparent.

Besides, Star Wars had a bunch of English before the Special Editions came along, so we’re not breaking lore or anything…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbrVFP_f0w&t=3m28s

Im against english personally

I’m interested in seeing how it would look without English; I’m just saying - I think we need to consider what’s best for a first-time viewer, rather than what we might “personally,” aesthetically, prefer. The most important thing is that the message comes through to the audience, and I can’t imagine many folks out there know how to read Aurebesh.

And Jar Jar, English was in the very first Star Wars movie, as I pointed out in my clip above. So it’s definitely a canon language. (And again, I think clarity is the most important aspect here; there’s no point of adding all of this if it’s unintelligible to the audience. That would look like a fan edit.)

Images will convey the message much quicker than text plus it’s dark and moving. Tags would help to sell it but “a picture tells a thousand words”.

I think an image its far more powerful than a phrase, first because only us, crazy zealot nerds, would pause The Rise of Skywalker to read to walls of Kijimi (and/or translate it, if in Aurabesh, as God and GL intended), second because is far easier to spot and understand the message in a good image, i love the idea of a bansky style grafitti, really cool stuff there.

And please, no latin alphabet in Star Wars, just no, deep down we all know it’s wrong.

Something like this is pretty cool. https://images.app.goo.gl/EAxNhH65JEsMFxUd9

Or

https://images.app.goo.gl/eBFaJitWmbgu5xvx5

Some great ideas! I’d be cautious of aping movie posters, as I can imagine gently rolling my eyes if I’d seen it in the theatrical.

Makes me think of something. One thing that did cause me to gently roll my eyes but not quite make a quip to my brother in the theater was the trooper in the distance on Kijimi saying something like “the door is locked, move onto the next one.”

I mean… mumble, grumble.

Hmm… Axlanian, any thoughts about augmenting that trooper line too? How about a sly allusion to the ‘77 mono mix with,”It’s secure, move onto the next one.” Or “It’s secure, next residence.”

We previously discussed using Crait Luke in the original movie poster pose; while everyone’s tolerances for these things are different, I felt like that was a neat way to throw in an instantly comprehensible and inspiring image that’s never actually been in any of the movies in any form.

I agree that adding a reference the line from ANH would be a fun little easter egg.

I disagree that changing the Death Star labels was a valuable special edition change. To me, these characters are already “humans,” speaking “English.” (I don’t care what either is called in lore; that doesn’t matter.) If seeing specific written letters is what shatters your immersion after that…well, that’s how you see it, I guess. And like Knight of Kalee pointed out, Latin characters are canon anyway, so who cares?

But anyway, I genuinely think these art pieces look fantastic - well done, all of you! I just worry that they’ll go by too quickly, or be too obscured in the background, to be able to easily see what they represent. We know what their significance is - will a theoretical first time viewer?

I guess we’ll just have to see how it plays when it’s all put together!

Hal 9000 said:

Some great ideas! I’d be cautious of aping movie posters, as I can imagine gently rolling my eyes if I’d seen it in the theatrical.

Makes me think of something. One thing that did cause me to gently roll my eyes but not quite make a quip to my brother in the theater was the trooper in the distance on Kijimi saying something like “the door is locked, move onto the next one.”

I mean… mumble, grumble.

Hmm… Axlanian, any thoughts about augmenting that trooper line too? How about a sly allusion to the ‘77 mono mix with,”It’s secure, move onto the next one.” Or “It’s secure, next residence.”

Now that’s gotta be an allusion to the original film, right?

But you’re right, Hal. Probably best to cut and/or replace a lot of that background chatter, just to get the right tone across. Here’s what it is in the theatrical (and most of it is off-screen anyway):

• Open up. You’re wanted for questioning. (This line doesn’t really fit the new context.)
• Check this side of the street. (That seems fine.)
• Alright, we’ll check it out. (Fine.)
• Door is locked. Move on to the next one. (Stupid)
• Give me regular reports, please. (Should be replaced)
• You, up against the wall. Show me your identification. Where’s your identification? (Ehhhhhh…)

Maybe we could make or find recordings to the effect of:

• They’re gathering in the north quarter. Send reinforcements!
• Open up! Come out with your hands up!
• They’ve found a weapons cache, stay alert.
• Send your squadron to Sector 248.

But then again, I don’t think this would all have to be Stormtrooper dialogue anymore. Probably more like a mix of stormtrooper orders, rebel rallying cries, and battle sounds.

axlanian said:

My intense (but might not work out) idea for this scene was too add a whole new soundscape. I really want to have a scene that shows civil unrest under FO rule, so it’s not quite as out-of-nowhere when the wind Galaxy rises up at the end of the movie.

I wad thinking of making it sound like a riot is going on farther back in the city, with these troopers split between trying to keep everyone else detained in their homes, and marching towards an area they’re being deployed to. Any graffiti would be great to show that Kijimi is a protest hotspot, but could anyone here add flashes of laser fire to the establishing shot as the Trio’s ship flies in?

There are already a good amount of noises in the scene, I’d mainly add voices and distant blaster fire. It should sound like they landed far away from the action.

Honestly I really don’t know if this will work, but I’d like to give it a shot first, and then if it’s a non-starter we can try simply replacing trooper dialogue instead. Does this sound like a good idea to anyone?

This was pretty much exactly how I pictured the scene in my mind too! I was actually using my “Force Hunting” mockup as a way of testing building up a battle soundscape. If you’d like, I could send over some of the sound effects I gathered for it - it’s a lot of audio from the different Battlefront games, mainly.