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Alright so here is an example of where I would place it (just try to imagine that the triumphant music isn’t attached to the line).

https://youtu.be/W0CSAdl4v9A

Imo, I think it would work well because it leads right into him laughing. But if you disagree it’s fine. I’m just trying to make sure we’ve thought of every possible change for v2!

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sherlockpotter said:

Hal 9000 said:

sherlockpotter will solve this or it’ll just remain poop.

Oh god, Hal himself just hinged the success of whole project on me. Fuuuuuu…

How does this sound for a v2 of the line? If it’s not perfect yet, let me know; but I’ve been listening to the same two seconds of audio for the past few hours, and I’m starting to lose objectivity. I’ve heard it so many times - and I’m hyper aware of where the different seams are - that I’m not sure if it sounds fluid or not. I need an fresh set of ears!

I’ve added an extra layer to smooth the transition a little more, re-pitched a couple of syllables, and I’ve been shuffling the different pieces around by a few thousandths of a second to make it flow better. Thoughts? Be brutal.

https://streamable.com/dwfbr9

Sherlock, could you please post your final clip for everyone in a WAV file? Excellent work.

Also when you say you “added an extra layer” what does that mean precisely?

heil palpatine.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Alright so here is an example of where I would place it (just try to imagine that the triumphant music isn’t attached to the line).

https://youtu.be/W0CSAdl4v9A

Imo, I think it would work well because it leads right into him laughing. But if you disagree it’s fine. I’m just trying to make sure we’ve thought of every possible change for v2!

Eeeeehhhhhhhhhhh… maybe!

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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What program do you think I’d need to remove the proper audio channels? I know for a fact my current software could never do it lmao.

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I can try it if you can direct me to where you found it. Depends how clean the channel is with the line.

You might be able to throw it into audacity, really.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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Hal 9000 said:

I can try it if you can direct me to where you found it. Depends how clean the channel is with the line.

You might be able to throw it into audacity, really.

It’s from the final TROS trailer. You can download a high quality version of it from one of those trailer websites or just export it off of YouTube (although that probably wouldn’t work well to remove audio channels).

EDIT: https://thedigitaltheater.com/2019/10/24/star-wars-episode-ix-the-rise-of-skywalker-2019-trailer-2-1080p-dts-hd-ma-5-1/

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That would be better like this…

"The life force of your bond, a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. Your coming together will be your undoing. And now, the power of two restores the one true Emperor.

The Skywalker Saga Viewing Order:
I: C.O.D. | II: T.A.S. | III: L.O.E. AE
IV: Revisited | V: Revisited | VI: Revisited
VII: Restructured | VIII: Rekindled | IX: Ascendant

This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

"The life force of your bond, a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. Your coming together will be your undoing. And now, the power of two restores the one true Emperor.

Unfortunately there isn’t enough room to fit that in there, thus why I recommended the placement that I did.’

Also Hal, idk if you saw my edit which provides a link to a lossless version of the trailer with 5.1 audio but it’s on my previous post.

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Yeah, I agree it may not be worth it if it overcrowds things. Too bad there’s not room where it seems to have originally belonged.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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krausfadr said:
saying “we’ve become a dyad” ends the possibility of always having been a dyad. Saying “we are a dyad” leaves it open to interpretation in either direction… they could have always been one or recently become one.

Agreed, and personally I prefer the always-dyad

And I’m interested in seeing the “undoing” line making it’s way into the film but I agree it doesn’t really fit the lightning scene. Would be cool to have a clean version of the line to play around with in different placements

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Brewzter said:

Would be cool to have a clean version of the line to play around with in different placements

What I’m currently working on but am having issues with audacity.

NVM currently have access to a much clearer audio sample but now I just need to isolate the vocals a bit.

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I really don’t like how Palpatine is suprised by Rey and Kylo’s dyad power which he suddenly absorbs. I think it would make sense to just slightly trim his surprise. This is what I have in mind (and it’s my first try at any video trimming and editing, so please forgive bad quality):

https://vimeo.com/519133388

  • I tried removing the painful “Ah!” sound that he makes when absorbing the first dyad shot.
  • Slightly trimmed his surprised face looking at regrowing hands.
  • Removed him saying “…a dyad in the Force…”, as I find it hard to believe the word “dyad” is the first thing that comes to mind. Especially if it’s unseen for generations then it’s unlikely both Kylo and him would use that somewhat specific word. I don’t mind Kylo saying it just the once to Rey earlier in the film.
  • As a matter of a fact, I also removed him saying “unseen for generations”, as I think this line doesn’t add much, and makes the viewer distracted thinking “wait, is there a point to him mentioning it, have we seen a dyad before?”

Now all he says is: “Stand together, die together! The life force of your bond - a power like life itself… And now, the power of two restores the one true emperor!”.

This results in the emperor being much less surprised about this bond’s power and makes it looks like maybe it’s part of his plan B to absorb their life force (it being a result of the bond or not).

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The reason we made it “What Palpatine doesn’t know is we’ve become a dyad in the force” is because we are currently following the philosophy that Palpatine is aware they have had a mind bridge, however is not aware of their dyadness. Making those changes would arguably undo the entire point of the “become a dyad” change.

Back to the Palpatine line, you were right Hal. There is too much music attached to all the character’s speaking. I removed a significant amount of it, but you can still hear it unfortunately.

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I like the Palps line, but I don’t quite like it while he’s frying the fleet. To me there’s a disconnect between currently electrocuting them (present tense) and saying this “will be your undoing” (future tense). I also get a weird implication where “coming together” is only bad because it means he can Chain Lightning them at once. If it’s possible, I think it works better where DZ suggested: “The life force of your bond, a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. Your coming together will be your undoing. And now, the power of two restores the one true Emperor.”

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I’ve just rewatched the whole Passana scene and I think we could possibly triple the clean plate…

1: Walker vs Luke. (Clean plate)
2: Cut to group of kids
3: Walker falling (Clean plate)
4: Kids laughing close up
5: “Skywalker” win (Clean plate)

Continue scene.

Check out - http://www.youtube.com/moviesremastered

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sherlockpotter said:

I like the Palps line, but I don’t quite like it while he’s frying the fleet. To me there’s a disconnect between currently electrocuting them (present tense) and saying this “will be your undoing” (future tense). I also get a weird implication where “coming together” is only bad because it means he can Chain Lightning them at once. If it’s possible, I think it works better where DZ suggested: “The life force of your bond, a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. Your coming together will be your undoing. And now, the power of two restores the one true Emperor.”

There simply isn’t enough room to fit that line in there, trust me I’ve tried.

Besides, I’ve also tried cleaning up the line, and quite frankly it’s far from perfect. Perhaps there is some wizard out there who could do better than me but I isolated it to the one audio track with him speaking AND applied a filter to remove background music and it still didn’t turn out right.

I would say it’s best to drop this topic. It was a fun idea I had but clearly isn’t worth the effort.

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I just realized his thread is as breakneck paced as the movie was.

Save the Sebastian Shaw Ghost! Save the dream…!

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krausfadr said:

sherlockpotter said:

Hal 9000 said:

sherlockpotter will solve this or it’ll just remain poop.

Oh god, Hal himself just hinged the success of whole project on me. Fuuuuuu…

How does this sound for a v2 of the line? If it’s not perfect yet, let me know; but I’ve been listening to the same two seconds of audio for the past few hours, and I’m starting to lose objectivity. I’ve heard it so many times - and I’m hyper aware of where the different seams are - that I’m not sure if it sounds fluid or not. I need an fresh set of ears!

I’ve added an extra layer to smooth the transition a little more, re-pitched a couple of syllables, and I’ve been shuffling the different pieces around by a few thousandths of a second to make it flow better. Thoughts? Be brutal.

https://streamable.com/dwfbr9

Sherlock, could you please post your final clip for everyone in a WAV file? Excellent work.

Also when you say you “added an extra layer” what does that mean precisely?

Whoops, sorry. Sent the line to Hal in a PM at first. Here’s the link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jOfypfXSDVkf7Z0p2xVB2ktg0RfwdxRW/view?usp=sharing

So, the extra layer was kind of weird. One of the problems I noticed was that there was a harsh cutoff between “become” and “A DYad”. I tried just lowering the volume of “A DY” a bit, but it still sounded uneasy to me. So I isolated the “mm” sound from “become” and layered it in a bit sooner. Then I blended it in with the “A” sound more. The end result (hopefully) was that it would go phonetically from “become. a Dyad.” to “become [ma] Dyad.”

Rather odd all around. I’m glad that it seems to have worked!

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sherlockpotter said:

krausfadr said:

sherlockpotter said:

Hal 9000 said:

sherlockpotter will solve this or it’ll just remain poop.

Oh god, Hal himself just hinged the success of whole project on me. Fuuuuuu…

How does this sound for a v2 of the line? If it’s not perfect yet, let me know; but I’ve been listening to the same two seconds of audio for the past few hours, and I’m starting to lose objectivity. I’ve heard it so many times - and I’m hyper aware of where the different seams are - that I’m not sure if it sounds fluid or not. I need an fresh set of ears!

I’ve added an extra layer to smooth the transition a little more, re-pitched a couple of syllables, and I’ve been shuffling the different pieces around by a few thousandths of a second to make it flow better. Thoughts? Be brutal.

https://streamable.com/dwfbr9

Sherlock, could you please post your final clip for everyone in a WAV file? Excellent work.

Also when you say you “added an extra layer” what does that mean precisely?

Whoops, sorry. Sent the line to Hal in a PM at first. Here’s the link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jOfypfXSDVkf7Z0p2xVB2ktg0RfwdxRW/view?usp=sharing

So, the extra layer was kind of weird. One of the problems I noticed was that there was a harsh cutoff between “become” and “A DYad”. I tried just lowering the volume of “A DY” a bit, but it still sounded uneasy to me. So I isolated the “mm” sound from “become” and layered it in a bit sooner. Then I blended it in with the “A” sound more. The end result (hopefully) was that it would go phonetically from “become. a Dyad.” to “become [ma] Dyad.”

Rather odd all around. I’m glad that it seems to have worked!

This is really good. I have 2 issues though unfortunately.

  1. When Kylo says ‘‘we’ve become a dyad’’; The word we’ve has a clipping sound to it, i listened with my headphones and it’s pretty noticeable.

  2. After he says dyad the line in the force seems to not flow as well as it could. You did a great job.

I took your clip and i made 2 versions.

In audio One, i removed the clipping & tried to make the line ‘in the force’ fit a bit better.

In audio Two, i removed the clipping & removed the line ‘in the force’ to see if it flowed better.

anyway, here you go

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VBMI4WJAO3izMPu8L5a-r3D4Pk0X16BR?usp=sharing

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You should definitely leave “in the force” in there, as otherwise the viewer might not know a dyad is related to the force.

Anyways, I can’t tell a difference between your first clip, creation, and sherlock’s one. But if people think that your first clip sounds better than sherlock’s then great. I just don’t want to mess with removing the end of the line is all.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

You should definitely leave “in the force” in there, as otherwise the viewer might not know a dyad is related to the force.

Anyways, I can’t tell a difference between your first clip, creation, and sherlock’s one. But if people think that your first clip sounds better than sherlock’s then great. I just don’t want to mess with removing the end of the line is all.

What I did to sherlock’s clip is really small, there was a pop/click sound as he said “we’ve”, but it’s only a small change

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Oh I’m very familiar with those popping/clicking sounds. My life in a nutshell with free editing software.

Thanks for taking care of that. Those types of things are much easier to hear with headphones on.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Oh I’m very familiar with those popping/clicking sounds. My life in a nutshell with free editing software.

Thanks for taking care of that. Those types of things are much easier to hear with headphones on.

i used to do it manually with free softward, second by second before i found adobe audition,so i feel your pain.

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Shaddy Zaphod said:

I think “fanboys who can’t let go” is the opposite of this. The fact that this is all in-service of a community effort to turn something they didn’t like into something they do (or, well, tolerate) purely for the sake of their own personal enjoyment is inspiring.

Agreed. I think RL and I were just having a little fun. If we didn’t agree with you, none of us would be here! Although it is becoming clearer that many of us our losing our minds (*are, was going to edit but realized it just helped my point). Maybe one day when I can stop wiping down bags of potato chips with lysol, things will be in better perspective.

ThisIsCreation, I think that click removal helped! With the headphones on, you can hear the difference.