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Honestly I don’t think we should change Rey’s lightsaber. It’s pretty clear that the prongs just cover the emitter and as she turns the gear it opens allowing the blade to ignite. That’s why her igniting takes an extra second compared to other sabers we’ve seen. The blade doesn’t push the prongs, but they open as the gear turns.

The prongs don’t touch the blade at all so there’s no need for them to be made of Beskar or Unobtainium

TPM ROTJ ESB TFA TLJ TROS ROTS ANH SOLO RO ATOC
TFA:R https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/TFA-A-Gentle-Restructure-Released/id/50117
TLJ:R https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Last-Jedi-Rekindled-Released-V3-UPDATE/id/61939
TROS:A https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Ascendant-WIP/id/71835/page/1

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All of this talk about her lightsaber reminds me of something. Have we have discussed why her lightsaber is yellow? In canon, only temple guards have them. What exactly is Rey defending? Furthermore, George Lucas prevented Filoni from giving Ashoka a yellow mini-blade in a later season of The Clone Wars, so they instead gave her a yellowish green blade. So according to George Lucas’ rules, Rey’s lightsaber should either be a shade of green or blue.

Honestly, I don’t really care either way but it is definitely something to consider.

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She trained at one of the original Jedi temples and is now the protector of the sacred texts that she took from the library before it was destroyed. As the last Jedi (as far as we know, Filoni…), she’s also the protector of their entire culture in general (a thousand generations live in you now).

Also Rey might not even know about the colors, and lightsaber color lore is inconsistent and doesn’t matter anyway. Cal Kestis had a hot-pink one when I played Fallen Order.

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Neerb said:

She trained at one of the original Jedi temples and is now the protector of the sacred texts that she took from the library before it was destroyed. As the last Jedi (as far as we know, Filoni…), she’s also the protector of their entire culture in general (a thousand generations live in you now).

Yeah kinda assumed this would be the answer. She’s also the defender of the Skywalker legacy.

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Neerb said:

She trained at one of the original Jedi temples and is now the protector of the sacred texts that she took from the library before it was destroyed. As the last Jedi (as far as we know, Filoni…), she’s also the protector of their entire culture in general (a thousand generations live in you now).

Also Rey might not even know about the colors, and lightsaber color lore is inconsistent and doesn’t matter anyway. Cal Kestis had a hot-pink one when I played Fallen Order.

Damn, that’s actually a really good story related reason for it.

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JakeRyan17 said:

sidshady12 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

sherlockpotter said:

I typically use FFmpeg for conversions. It’s a bit more confusing to use than Handbrake, but I find that it’s faster, and the output is generally a higher quality too. Another benefit over Handbrake is that Handbrake will try to re-transcode the entire video; whereas FFmpeg can simply repackage the video and audio tracks into any other format container. In other words, it can convert your file to a compatible file type without losing any video quality.

If you just need to convert it from .avi to, for example, .mp4, you can do that really easily and quickly with this command (remove the square brackets and add the file name):

ffmpeg -i "[source file].avi" -c:v copy -c:a copy "[output file].mp4"

(In layman’s terms, this means “Run FFmpeg. Use [source file].avi as the input file. Copy the video and audio tracks without transcoding them, and output them into [output file].mp4”)

If you need to convert the audio codec - aac audio tends to work well when I’m editing - you could do that with:

ffmpeg -i "[source file].avi" -c:v copy -c:a:1 aac "[output file].mp4"

(Run FFmpeg. Use [source file].avi as the input file. Copy the video track without transcoding it. Convert the 1st audio track to .aac, and output the video and the audio track into [output file].mp4")

Except if it’s a codec issue beyond container, then it’s not solving the issue. If something is an avi, it’s not likely H.264 even though the new container of mp4 would suggest that. If a program, especially a non-linear editor, can’t read a file, it’s far more likely a codec issue than a container issue.

Also, transcoding doesn’t lose quality just because it’s changing formats. For example, to use ProRes codecs as an example, you cannot add quality that wasn’t there. So, some people will transcode H.264 into ProRes 422 or ProRes 422 HQ for editing, and scoff at using ProRes 422 LT: all have higher bandwidth than H.264 and will not have any quality loss. Look at the data rates capable from codecs, if the source codec is at a lower rate than the destination codec, you won’t lose quality (unless you set the transcode to compress the file or something). Using something too much higher in bandwidth will just create an unnecessarily large file.

FFmpeg is a good tool, but if you’re deep enough in knowing how to use codecs and such, I feel like you’d be using better tools anyway. That’s why I generally don’t recommend it to people.

Disagree on the gatekeeping of tools, FFmpeg is the perfect tool for working with re-encoding codecs, it’s not just for changing containers. There’d be no reason to need anything else other than FFmpeg and your video editor in the context of fan editing movies, working with ProRes, h264, etc. From my memory handbrake only encodes in distribution formats which is built on compression which means losing quality, and that’s what he was referring to, so I agree, I do not recommend that program for people who want to edit movies. If you want to avoid editing h264 because it can be buggy and slow, then go with a good visually/near lossless format that’s built for editing, like ProRes or DNxHD and the specific format depends on your needs, but the unnecessarily large file is the whole point so that you can have it an editing format without losing visible data, you can even use a proxy if your computer is too slow.

Not gatekeeping, it’s just a difficult tool to learn for beginners, and if you’re not a beginner you likely have better tools. That’s all I was getting at.

Most NLEs come with encoders (Final Cut has Compressor, Premiere has Media Encoder, DaVinci Resolve has it built into the main app, etc.) that are far more robust and capable, while also easier to use. My original comment was more that Handbrake can read most things, and give you an H.264 of the same quality of the source, and if you’re on a setup where you can’t edit with H.264 you can use one of those other tools instead.

I do this for a living, and I started with fan-editing. I’m just trying to give advice for every skill level, and I think giving command-line instructions for FFmpeg is not really accessible to every skill level.

I guess, just disagree at the core - because I think ffmpeg is quite easy to learn. You tell it what to do and it does exactly that, plenty of resources online. People are just scared of command prompts.

Are you referring to turning ProRes into h264 for editing because that doesn’t make any sense to me so I don’t think you are, but if you need to watch something that’s ProRes and need it in h264 then why not just export it as h264 in the first place, no additional handbrake is needed.

Also you’d be surprised, plenty of professional editors use ffmpeg in their work flow, I just think it’s giving the wrong idea to say “there’s better tools out there” because ffmpeg is one of those better tools for being free to use, the learning curve can be tough for some maybe, and yeah Disney’s not gonna bust out ffmpeg for the next Star wars films but to any editors out there ffmpeg is very solid and will fulfill all your needs for free even past just doing fan edits.

If anyone needs help setting it up feel free to DM me, I mainly use it for repackaging video and audio into different containers very quickly, or adding custom audio tracks like DTS-HD MA onto an Mp4 or Mkv that I can’t get out of premiere.

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sidshady12 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

sidshady12 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

sherlockpotter said:

I typically use FFmpeg for conversions. It’s a bit more confusing to use than Handbrake, but I find that it’s faster, and the output is generally a higher quality too. Another benefit over Handbrake is that Handbrake will try to re-transcode the entire video; whereas FFmpeg can simply repackage the video and audio tracks into any other format container. In other words, it can convert your file to a compatible file type without losing any video quality.

If you just need to convert it from .avi to, for example, .mp4, you can do that really easily and quickly with this command (remove the square brackets and add the file name):

ffmpeg -i "[source file].avi" -c:v copy -c:a copy "[output file].mp4"

(In layman’s terms, this means “Run FFmpeg. Use [source file].avi as the input file. Copy the video and audio tracks without transcoding them, and output them into [output file].mp4”)

If you need to convert the audio codec - aac audio tends to work well when I’m editing - you could do that with:

ffmpeg -i "[source file].avi" -c:v copy -c:a:1 aac "[output file].mp4"

(Run FFmpeg. Use [source file].avi as the input file. Copy the video track without transcoding it. Convert the 1st audio track to .aac, and output the video and the audio track into [output file].mp4")

Except if it’s a codec issue beyond container, then it’s not solving the issue. If something is an avi, it’s not likely H.264 even though the new container of mp4 would suggest that. If a program, especially a non-linear editor, can’t read a file, it’s far more likely a codec issue than a container issue.

Also, transcoding doesn’t lose quality just because it’s changing formats. For example, to use ProRes codecs as an example, you cannot add quality that wasn’t there. So, some people will transcode H.264 into ProRes 422 or ProRes 422 HQ for editing, and scoff at using ProRes 422 LT: all have higher bandwidth than H.264 and will not have any quality loss. Look at the data rates capable from codecs, if the source codec is at a lower rate than the destination codec, you won’t lose quality (unless you set the transcode to compress the file or something). Using something too much higher in bandwidth will just create an unnecessarily large file.

FFmpeg is a good tool, but if you’re deep enough in knowing how to use codecs and such, I feel like you’d be using better tools anyway. That’s why I generally don’t recommend it to people.

Disagree on the gatekeeping of tools, FFmpeg is the perfect tool for working with re-encoding codecs, it’s not just for changing containers. There’d be no reason to need anything else other than FFmpeg and your video editor in the context of fan editing movies, working with ProRes, h264, etc. From my memory handbrake only encodes in distribution formats which is built on compression which means losing quality, and that’s what he was referring to, so I agree, I do not recommend that program for people who want to edit movies. If you want to avoid editing h264 because it can be buggy and slow, then go with a good visually/near lossless format that’s built for editing, like ProRes or DNxHD and the specific format depends on your needs, but the unnecessarily large file is the whole point so that you can have it an editing format without losing visible data, you can even use a proxy if your computer is too slow.

Not gatekeeping, it’s just a difficult tool to learn for beginners, and if you’re not a beginner you likely have better tools. That’s all I was getting at.

Most NLEs come with encoders (Final Cut has Compressor, Premiere has Media Encoder, DaVinci Resolve has it built into the main app, etc.) that are far more robust and capable, while also easier to use. My original comment was more that Handbrake can read most things, and give you an H.264 of the same quality of the source, and if you’re on a setup where you can’t edit with H.264 you can use one of those other tools instead.

I do this for a living, and I started with fan-editing. I’m just trying to give advice for every skill level, and I think giving command-line instructions for FFmpeg is not really accessible to every skill level.

I guess, just disagree at the core - because I think ffmpeg is quite easy to learn. You tell it what to do and it does exactly that, plenty of resources online. People are just scared of command prompts.

Are you referring to turning ProRes into h264 for editing because that doesn’t make any sense to me so I don’t think you are, but if you need to watch something that’s ProRes and need it in h264 then why not just export it as h264 in the first place, no additional handbrake is needed.

Also you’d be surprised, plenty of professional editors use ffmpeg in their work flow, I just think it’s giving the wrong idea to say “there’s better tools out there” because ffmpeg is one of those better tools for being free to use, the learning curve can be tough for some maybe, and yeah Disney’s not gonna bust out ffmpeg for the next Star wars films but to any editors out there ffmpeg is very solid and will fulfill all your needs for free even past just doing fan edits.

If anyone needs help setting it up feel free to DM me, I mainly use it for repackaging video and audio into different containers very quickly, or adding custom audio tracks like DTS-HD MA onto an Mp4 or Mkv that I can’t get out of premiere.

We really don’t need to get into this again… but I can assure you Lucasfilm does not use FFmpeg. I’m quite sure about that. They use Avid for editing, and DaVinci Resolve for final color on EXRs.

The main process I know of people taking their BDs and ripping them starts with making an MKV, converting that to H.264, and then converting it to ProRes or DNx if their system struggles to edit with H.264. I personally edit in those H.264s, because there’s no real reason not to with the changes I’m making.

To each their own, but if someone is struggling, and not an expert in command line, I still would not recommend a command line tool.

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As for Colors, I think it makes sense for Rey to have a yellow blade. I think the issue with Ahsoka was she hadn’t earned it yet.

As for being the last Jedi, Ahsoka is not a Jedi, so Ezra’s fate would be the only non-Rey Jedi at this point.

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My personal hope is that an older Grogu joins Rey’s group in future EU material.

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Neerb said:

My personal hope is that an older Grogu joins Rey’s group in future EU material.

Hopefully! Ugh, can you imagine Finn and Grogu as trainees together? I respect that John says he’ll never come back, and it’s for very valid reasons… but that would be something I’d love to see.

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JakeRyan17 said:

Neerb said:

My personal hope is that an older Grogu joins Rey’s group in future EU material.

Hopefully! Ugh, can you imagine Finn and Grogu as trainees together? I respect that John says he’ll never come back, and it’s for very valid reasons… but that would be something I’d love to see.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-boyega-could-potentially-back-to-star-wars-an-animated-show-would-be-dope.html/

He’s said that he’d come back for an animated series. It would pretty much be my perfect Star Wars story- Rey training Finn? Ben coming back (good lord the potential here)? Training Grogu? FinnPoe? Rose getting more screentime? Fleshing out the Palpatine/Snoke storyline? More dyad lore?

God it would be so good lol. I think it could absolutely do to the sequels what TCW did for the prequels

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I mean, I wanna see it in live action, but I get why he’d rather do animation (less of a time commitment)

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Live action of course would be incredible but I don’t even see that within the realm of possibility

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It’s absolutely not within the realm of possibility.

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Neerb said:

I assumed it was some sort of safety, perhaps from back before saber tech was more refined and reliable (since Rey had been reading old books on the Jedi). Some sort of beam-resistant metal,

I’d buy that.

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JakeRyan17 said:

Massive thanks to Jake & Poppa for tech help. We’ve now fixed my Pr playback issues, and the rendering problem. For some reason Af defaulted back to animation settings despite me never using it so I now have to re-render all the scenes again.

It seems that animation clips just didn’t agree with my computer and replacing those should fix the other full movie render issues I was having.

I’m still getting drop frames on Af playback so it’s still a nightmare to finish the crackling saber but I should be able to continue those scenes now.

Love this community! Thanks for all the help folks. 🏆

Check out - http://www.youtube.com/moviesremastered

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In regards to Rey’s lightsaber, it’s one of the only elements I genuinely love from the movie. I like the movie just fine, but the Lightsaber felt like a fresh idea and I love its design and colour.

‘‘I Know Death Follows Me But I’ll Murder Him First.’’

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I’ll admit, I’ve been behind on this thread due to dedicating my time to my personal life and editing projects. What exactly is the percentage status on V2?

Noah Lawson

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nl0428 said:

I’ll admit, I’ve been behind on this thread due to dedicating my time to my personal life and editing projects. What exactly is the percentage status on V2?

I believe we’re waiting on:

  • lightsaber crackle
  • Luke’s haircut
  • possible Mustafar tweaks

That’s all I can recall at the moment. And a few other random ideas have been tossed around; I’m still trying to get my hands on higher quality Ajan Kloss Battlefront 2 footage that might be decently edited into a short transitional shot (I might get some soon, but we’ll see).

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Correct, Mustafar is in a finished state. However, it was at one point suggested that a bit of fog is placed beside our current Vader’s castle shot to blend it all together a bit better. Adding a few cracks to the castle’s stone wouldn’t hurt either, but that would be harder to do.

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Just had a thought - what if, in the Death Star fight, the clip of Leia dying is shuffled forward slightly, and spliced in as Rey is healing Kylo. Then the implication would be that Leia sacrifices herself, allowing Rey to channel her life force into her son? That also explains how Rey is able to heal a mortal wound without killing herself, like Ben did when he healed her.

Leia’s death then serves a narrative purpose beyond “drama,” or “losing the will to live.”

I’m thinking:

  • Ben hears Leia calls his name.
  • Ben turns around, distracted.
  • Rey stabs him.
  • (Maybe Rey hears Leia call her name too?)
  • Shot of Leia silhouetted.
  • Rey reaches out towards Kylo’s wound.
  • Leia collapses
  • Wound heals
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I don’t plan to alter the scene further, though there are many valid ideas about how it could’ve gone.

And essentially the only things I’m currently waiting on are completed (and then de-blued) island Jedi haircut, and the remaining scenes for the crackly saber FX.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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Is the finished Mustafar Minute viewable somewhere?