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Luka Frik said:

All right, all the Exegol footage with crackling saber is available here (purple version) :
https://mega.nz/folder/DoQzwSqZ#vaXGT7zMFcK3i1qBnHRJ2g

I’ll make available the blue version when I have time for those who are interested.

Great job! I didn’t follow all the discussion, why the blue saber should be crackle? Is it because Rey fix Luke’s broken saber and the kyber is damaged?

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Regarding Kylo and Rey kiss, someone find this a little bit cringe? Is there a way to fix it or cut it, in your opinion?

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Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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rik said:

Regarding Kylo and Rey kiss, someone find this a little bit cringe? Is there a way to fix it or cut it, in your opinion?

I also find it awkward; but I think Hal said he’s fine with it, and he’s the boss, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That being said, I’ve always found that Chewie getting the medal in the ending takes me right out of the movie. They definitely put that in because of the meme, not because it was beneficial to the story or character. Thoughts on that?

And Billy Dee’s interaction with Jannah also feels really creepy to me. But maybe I just find the whole ending really cringey.

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Chewies medal is explained because Leia is holding it as she dies in this edit. Therefore, it represents both Leia and Han for him (the medal belonged to Han originally)

As for the Reylo kiss, it makes things come full circle in the saga. Ben really did complete what his grandfather started: saving the one he loved from death. The kiss helps sell the idea that their relationship can be compared to Anakin and Padme’s.

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mikereese971 said:

rik said:

Regarding Kylo and Rey kiss, someone find this a little bit cringe? Is there a way to fix it or cut it, in your opinion?

I also find it awkward; but I think Hal said he’s fine with it, and he’s the boss, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That being said, I’ve always found that Chewie getting the medal in the ending takes me right out of the movie. They definitely put that in because of the meme, not because it was beneficial to the story or character. Thoughts on that?

And Billy Dee’s interaction with Jannah also feels really creepy to me. But maybe I just find the whole ending really cringey.

Yes, of course … Hal is the boss … lol
Regarding Chewie, i think the scene is fine, not for the meme that isn’t so popular, but for what represent for Chewie, Han and Leia.
And Lando’s interaction with Jannah, i think is unusefull, but not so creepy. If could be cut, i think could be better but it can stay with no problem.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Chewies medal is explained because Leia is holding it as she dies in this edit. Therefore, it represents both Leia and Han for him (the medal belonged to Han originally)

As for the Reylo kiss, it makes things come full circle in the saga. Ben really did complete what his grandfather started: saving the one he loved from death. The kiss helps sell the idea that their relationship can be compared to Anakin and Padme’s.

ok, in this way the kiss has sense. The problem is that nobody think that Rey and Kylo were in love. They are connect, but there’s no signs that he loves her and she loves him.

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I don’t know what trilogy you watched then haha. Nearly every scene they have together is very intimate, but of course in the wrong way because Kylo is evil. Thus why Rey says in TROS: “I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.”

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Hal 9000 said:

I was able to finesse it to make it work even so, as the purple blade is only on the far left for a few frames, using layering and cropping.

I was able to tinker with some of the other bits and pieces. I did find where 21C has posted the Mustafar shots. I will get that implemented with corresponding audio. And that way if anyone does want to explore the idea of adding trees to the foreground I could drop that in.

It’s the one found here, immediately following the establishing shot of the planet:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ljyIlZ1PLpPmhSpuPNktDqtBWP2vZ_8O/view?usp=sharing

god damn, why didnt i find this earlier? i have an earlier version of the mustafar shot… guess thats going in V2 of my edit…

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I don’t know what trilogy you watched then haha. Nearly every scene they have together is very intimate, but of course in the wrong way because Kylo is evil. Thus why Rey says in TROS: “I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.”

Nailed it. Their romance is visible throughout the entire trilogy, right from the start when Kylo bridal carries her on Takodana.

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There are a few marriage things, also. Kylo carrying Rey over the threshold of his ship in TFA on Takodana, Rey saying, “I do.”

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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Hal 9000 said:

I was able to finesse it to make it work even so, as the purple blade is only on the far left for a few frames, using layering and cropping.

I was able to tinker with some of the other bits and pieces. I did find where 21C has posted the Mustafar shots. I will get that implemented with corresponding audio. And that way if anyone does want to explore the idea of adding trees to the foreground I could drop that in.

It’s the one found here, immediately following the establishing shot of the planet:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ljyIlZ1PLpPmhSpuPNktDqtBWP2vZ_8O/view?usp=sharing

It looks great 👍
Are you gonna add the shot of the castle and the forest (the one right after we see the pilot)?

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Oh boy, there we go with the sarcasm again. Lol.
In all actuality there are some interesting marriage parallels. We call it, “taking somebody’s hand in marriage” after all.

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rik said:
nobody think that Rey and Kylo were in love

Have you never been on Twitter? People have been stanning Reylo since 2015 and TLJ really brought it to the forefront in the movies.

Ben having zero lines after his change of heart does make it feel kind of odd in TROS though, considering how much of their interaction in TLJ consisted of talking, but the kiss is supposed to be an emotionally triumphant moment.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I don’t know what trilogy you watched then haha. Nearly every scene they have together is very intimate, but of course in the wrong way because Kylo is evil. Thus why Rey says in TROS: “I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.”

I never seen their connection under this point of view. And the movie didn’t ever made explicit this thing

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Hal 9000 said:

There are a few marriage things, also. Kylo carrying Rey over the threshold of his ship in TFA on Takodana, Rey saying, “I do.”

Rey says “I do”? when? ok, there are many symbolism, but i think that their connection is through the Force, not through love

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sade1212 said:

rik said:
nobody think that Rey and Kylo were in love

Have you never been on Twitter? People have been stanning Reylo since 2015 and TLJ really brought it to the forefront in the movies.

Ben having zero lines after his change of heart does make it feel kind of odd in TROS though, considering how much of their interaction in TLJ consisted of talking, but the kiss is supposed to be an emotionally triumphant moment.

I don’t have Twitter, but i know that people talked about Reylo. Anyway if people talk about romance between two characters, doesn’t mean that it have to be then in the movie.

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I think that Star Wars should be made with the common audience in mind. So, yes, it may have been better if they realized that these romantic signs should be more explicit for the audience. Then again, there is plenty in the sequel trilogy that would have been better had more thought been put into it. But it also doesn’t hurt to make those signs more subtle, leaving you wondering with a “will they or won’t they” situation in the end. IMO there is some big payoff with the kiss at the end.
Regardless, this is Hal’s edit, so he has the final call on this. I’ll cease my chatter on this topic now.

Exsqueeze me.

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To be honest … I never understood the appeal/obsession with them.

A guy who is part of a space nazi government, has blood on his hands, first time seeing her captures her, interrogates her, then murders his father who she just met and likes, then has a lightsaber battle and tries to kill him back.

Next day they have … a “moment.”

Yeah, totally makes sense. It feels so … forced. (Pun 50/50 intended) I say this as my pure personal view. IF you like Reylo, that’s a ok and I ain’t going to give ya grieve about it. I just personally don’t get it.

“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I think that Star Wars should be made with the common audience in mind. So, yes, it may have been better if they realized that these romantic signs should be more explicit for the audience. Then again, there is plenty in the sequel trilogy that would have been better had more thought been put into it. But it also doesn’t hurt to make those signs more subtle, leaving you wondering with a “will they or won’t they” situation in the end. IMO there is some big payoff with the kiss at the end.
Regardless, this is Hal’s edit, so he has the final call on this. I’ll cease my chatter on this topic now.

I am agree with you. Maybe i am the only one who didn’t catch this signs and this love connection between kylo and Rey. So this is the reason because i didn’t understand the kiss. If for most people the love connection is so clear, then the kiss have to stay in the movie and in Hal’s edit. I will watch the sequel trilogy trying to pay attention to these signs.

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^ I don’t plan to use that second castle shot, just the main establishing shot and seeing over Kylo’s shoulder later.

IMHO, I think all three ST films have pretty clear romantic (and marriage specifically) imagery and elements. It’s not sarcasm. In the surrealist cinematic world of the main Star Wars saga, those present clearly to me. I’m not overly acquainted with esoteric Reylo internet stuff, it’s just my read of the movies.

Kylo carrying Rey across the threshold, taking of hands (rejecting Finn’s hand in favor of taking Kylo/Ben’s even), and lines like, “I do.”

It doesn’t have to make sense. This is a weird movie universe where archetypes play themselves out melodramatically. Rey is the light (and female) and Kylo is the dark (and male). Of course there’s going to be romantic and sexual archetypes invoked.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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“A guy who is part of a space nazi government, has blood on his hands, including killing children, first time seeing his son battles him, chops off his hand, then potentially murders one of his best friends. Tries to prevent him from escaping the planet so he can brainwash him into a nazi as well.
Year or so later son decides that his father is actually a great guy deep inside.”

Sorry, couldn’t help myself haha

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jarbear said:

To be honest … I never understood the appeal/obsession with them.

A guy who is part of a space nazi government, has blood on his hands, first time seeing her captures her, interrogates her, then murders his father who she just met and likes, then has a lightsaber battle and tries to kill him back.

Next day they have … a “moment.”

Yeah, totally makes sense. It feels so … forced. (Pun 50/50 intended) I say this as my pure personal view. IF you like Reylo, that’s a ok and I ain’t going to give ya grieve about it. I just personally don’t get it.

it’s the same thing for me. I always thinked that the reason why they look for each other, is the special connection to the force, the dyad. they don’t know what is it and why they feel each other connected. Kylo don’t know if is good or evil, if he had to stay with the dark side or the light side, and then thanks to Rey he come back to the light side. No love, no marriage. this is my opinion.

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Hal 9000 said:

^ I don’t plan to use that second castle shot, just the main establishing shot and seeing over Kylo’s shoulder later.

IMHO, I think all three ST films have pretty clear romantic (and marriage specifically) imagery and elements. It’s not sarcasm. In the surrealist cinematic world of the main Star Wars saga, those present clearly to me. I’m not overly acquainted with esoteric Reylo internet stuff, it’s just my read of the movies.

Kylo carrying Rey across the threshold, taking of hands (rejecting Finn’s hand in favor of taking Kylo/Ben’s even), and lines like, “I do.”

It doesn’t have to make sense. This is a weird movie universe where archetypes play themselves out melodramatically. Rey is the light (and female) and Kylo is the dark (and male). Of course there’s going to be romantic and sexual archetypes invoked.

Yes, Star Wars always had these romantic and sexual archetypes, but in the previous trilogies were more explicit. I think in sequel trilogy they could have be more explicit, only signs aren’t enough in my opinion.