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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 315

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Jonh! Happy New Year. Luke’s haircut is, oddly enough, one of my most eagerly desired changes (the wig really irritates me) and I’m glad to hear you’ll have a chance to look at it.

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Oh boy oh boy Jonh is back! Welcome buddy!

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Happy new year friends!let’s hope this year is better:)

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Very good news. I just think it’s really cool it’s even possible to do this. Happy New Year!

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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On the topic of Vader’s castle, I recall seeing another thread where someone rotoscoped video using shots of the castle from Rogue One.

Here is the link to view it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rlq4IBxaaX6cWvdPlPQttfvaKCIdYtwS/view?usp=sharing

I do think those establishing shots greatly improve the sequence—particularly the TIEs flying around the castle. The troopers running out may not be necessary, though I do like extending the sequence as the whole film moves too fast.

Where did we ever land on getting a shot of the castle? Or did we pass on it?

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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Oh man I don’t remember seeing that shot of the ties in front of Vader’s castle that looks wonderful. We probably didn’t go with it because we didn’t want to reuse footage from another movie. I could look past that though. Although, I’m still of the opinion that the Battlefront footage doesn’t work unfortunately.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Oh man I don’t remember seeing that shot of the ties in front of Vader’s castle that looks wonderful.

Yeah, it’s a really good establishing shot, especially since we otherwise don’t realize this is taking place on Mustafar.

We probably didn’t go with it because we didn’t want to reuse footage from another movie. I could look past that though.

Since it’s not from a film in the Skywalker Saga, I’d be open to it since we don’t see Vader’s castle in any other movie.

Although, I’m still of the opinion that the Battlefront footage doesn’t work unfortunately.

Which part of that is Battlefront footage?

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Oh man I don’t remember seeing that shot of the ties in front of Vader’s castle that looks wonderful. We probably didn’t go with it because we didn’t want to reuse footage from another movie. I could look past that though. Although, I’m still of the opinion that the Battlefront footage doesn’t work unfortunately.

I think the stablishing shot from Rogue One REALLY works, because has the Tie Fighters in it and the different colour scheme, that makes that shot barely recognizable. Maybe if someone talented in VFX were able to make the castle look more damaged and destroyed (because a lot years passed and it would follow the continuity from the expanded universe, that says the castle was left in ruins after vader dies) it would make the shot even more different than it was originally, would maintain the continuity and it would be finally the castle appearance we all wanted to see in the movie. But even if is not possible I really think hal should maintain that in the v2. About the battlefront stuff, yeah it doesn’t work unfortunately :

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I think everything that is need to be done to the Vader Castle cameo is:
-Include the altered Rogue One shot from the Castle with the Ties and colour correction Ziggy has linked
-Add the awesome Movies Remastered edit of the Castle Behind Kylo when he holds the Wayfinder
That’s it. We got a proper Mustafar appearance with a satisfying Vader Castle cameo (the original one of the movie I barely recognize if I haven’t read it online) and a Coruscant nice easter egg in the movie.
A proper Vader Castle cameo is just so good because ties the sequel trilogy with Rogue One, making the Disney Era more interconnected. We all go to cinema in 2016 and watched Rogue One, wondering if elements from that movie would appear on the other movies of the sequels. To be better than this, only if we find a way to include something from Solo, but I have no idea really.

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Movies Remastered said:

I’ve given this one more try with the image we have. I trimmed the mask back as hard as I could, retracked the movement, and added a smoke effect to match what’s there.

Let me know if the contrast is better?

Vaders Castle V3 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/10enoOUerHDOUns2ld8dtrnuAXaLxxY4_/view?usp=sharing

Nice job MR!

In terms of blending the castle with the rest of the environment, this is the best pass yet! 👍

However, I’m not sure if this is just me, but it seems like the tracking on your second pass was a bit more precise, since closer to the end of this shot the castle seems to become a little floaty. Should be an easy fix though!

Keep up the good work!

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Movies Remastered said:

If you can provide images of the castle in ruins I’d be happy to try it but right now we are really limited on good stock photos and footage for it to be done without someone recreating it in 3d.

Sure, maybe I could try to make an ruined version of the Castle in photoshop, but I think I just will have the time next week. But you got my Idea right? really hope that shot goes to the final cut

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It really depends on how ruined we want the castle to appear. Ideally, someone could add some cracks and small pieces missing of it in the TIE shot. That way the far away shot by Movies Remastered wouldn’t necessarily have to be changed.

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ziggyonice said:

I really don’t feel like the ruins piece is necessary. It would look cool, but not required.

It’s far enough away that you can’t tell.

I agree with you, it would definitely looks cool, but I hope the Castle shot stays even if it is the way it is in the video you share with us.
Poe being a drugdealer makes no continuity sense and they make a stupid excuse to that after the movie came out, so we could say that maybe the Sith cultists that are protecting the castle rebuilt that and that’s why it looks new and cool. What do you think?

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

It really depends on how ruined we want the castle to appear. Ideally, someone could add some cracks and small pieces missing of it in the TIE shot. That way the far away shot by Movies Remastered wouldn’t necessarily have to be changed.

the Movies shot have the castle really blurred so I don’t think it’s necessary like you said. The only problem with that shot to me is that ALONE it is kinda weak. Is a blink-you-lost cameo of the castle and is not that powerful, but if you put that TIE shot at the beggining, it becames super cool. Imagine if you are at the cinema and just the castle appears in a one second shot? kinda weak. But if the Castle appear at the large screen visible and after that appears again quickly and blurred in other frame, it works because you already are expecting to see more of the castle and you would be just searching for it when it shows again.

Anyways I just hope that Hal decides to include the Tie shot even if its kinda a reused shot from Rogue One

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Oh no, I think you misunderstood me. I do want both to be in the edit, but I just don’t want Movies Remastered to have to do his work all over again 😃

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Just was looking through the Vader’s castle Mustafar shots in Rogue One since people have brought it up quite a few times about wanting it more included in the opening sequence, don’t exactly see its importance, but I see why its a bit pointless to add in a tiny easter egg thats not expanded on for more than one shot; however it could be possible to reverse this one Rogue One shot and rotoscope out Krennics shuttle; just need to find a good way to implement/track in the forest on the lower portion.

https://youtu.be/sjJoEyecDU0

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Oh no, I think you misunderstood me. I do want both to be in the edit, but I just don’t want Movies Remastered to have to do his work all over again 😃

OOOh, so there was a major misunderstood of us all. I do not want that also, the only shot that would “need” to be changed was the Tie’s, Movies Remastered shot is perfect.

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Chase Adams said:

Movies Remastered said:

I’ve given this one more try with the image we have. I trimmed the mask back as hard as I could, retracked the movement, and added a smoke effect to match what’s there.

Let me know if the contrast is better?

Vaders Castle V3 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/10enoOUerHDOUns2ld8dtrnuAXaLxxY4_/view?usp=sharing

Nice job MR!

In terms of blending the castle with the rest of the environment, this is the best pass yet! 👍

However, I’m not sure if this is just me, but it seems like the tracking on your second pass was a bit more precise, since closer to the end of this shot the castle seems to become a little floaty. Should be an easy fix though!

Keep up the good work!

I’ve tried several tracking points and I just can’t seem to fix those last few frames. It’s really frustrating but this is only my second project in After Effects so I’d appreciate any advice on how to make it better?

@ziggyonice I’m with you. It’s only 30 years between movies so unless there is an attack or story behind the ruins, that’s still canon I’m not sure it’s worth it but I’m happy to see what @MagMaxx comes up with. Glad you like the clip.

Thanks, @Jar Jar Bricks I appreciate that and agree with you. If it’s too beaten i.e. one of the turrets is broken off etc I think people would miss the point of it being Vaders Castle

@Cinefy, Kewlfish, and I worked on that scene months ago but we felt it was too dark compared to the follow-up shot and had some ghosting content fill as the ship got closer. If anyone knows Element 3D to add the Tie Fighters, I’d give it another try. Maybe @skenera could brighten it up and make it more fitting?

Check out - http://www.youtube.com/moviesremastered

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So I know I just shared that video of the establishing shot of Vader’s castle, which I think compliments having the shot of Kylo Ren with the castle in the distance.

With that said, I honestly believe you need the establishing shot in order to use the shot of the castle in the distance.

Without the establishing shot, there’s no evidence of any structures anywhere in this massive forest.

Instead, by itself, it almost feels like an error. Like, “Oh, the film crew accidentally got a building in the background.”

Whether using the one I suggested, or if someone else wants to put one together, I feel like you need an establishing shot of Vader’s castle.

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844