The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 250

Icecream2448 said:

moripro2311 said:

I have a little nitpick with the force ghost scene in the final battle in the movie, am I the only one who thinks it would make more sense to have Sebastian Shaw, the original actor who played Anakin in the ending of ROTJ, instead of Hayden Christensen? We have an old Obi Wan, and old Luke, but Anakin who is the grandfather of Luke is still young, it’s just a little nitpick in my part, it doesn’t work that much for me, other than that, the edit and concept of that scene is still fantastic, and I’m a big fan of the work that has been done by the fan edit community, it’s fantastic!

Jonh had something in the works (as requested) when I spoke with him a couple months ago. The little work in progress he was working on looked great. Luckily, Anakin is just standing there still in the scene, so we could use still images for it. I hope Shaw gets the Star Wars justice he deserves!

My argument for it not being canon is… Obi Wan gets both voice and physical spirit mixed up with Ewan and Alec. So why can’t we have the voice of Hayden and the appearance of Sebastian Shaw? 😁

Because we don’t have archival footage of Shaw… maybe you can make it with the reface app or something like that… but I think it’s a lot of effort for very little reward.

Hell yeah! If he can do it and is willing/able to (I know he’s a busy guy) I’d be all over that, for my own personal copy at least!

Is there anywhere in the movie people have inserted the music from the final TROS trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qn_spdM5Zg

Especially the part that kicks in at 1:25… it’s so good. Gives me chills everytime! Would love to see it in the actual film somewhere

I personally prefer Hayden, just because we see him inhabit the role for way longer, so I think more audiences will recognize him whereas Shaw might have them scratching their heads.

I’m pretty resigned to agree for the primary release of Hal’s edit, but it would be awesome to have an alternate version of those shots for anyone who wants to cut them into their own personal version of it.

Icecream2448 said:

Speaking of the ending, the music transition into “Directed by JJ Abrams” still feels weird. I know it’s been discussed a lot, so sorry if it’s already been decided upon and everything. It’s, like, abrupt and there is no flow or the usual “jolt” feeling you get when the credits roll. It just feels jarring and jump cut in the audio. I’m sure it’s incredibly difficult to get a proper timing with what appears to be two seperate audio tracks, but it’s just not feeling right.

I finally found a solution to this! The epilogue from Star Wars Rebels has three notes that lead into the main SW end credits theme and the first matches the Rey/Force theme music (go to 2:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0lYWcOn3M)
I made a very quick and crude concept track with the lead in and it works! https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dYFzUxQSHDRQq3m67gEhQJs8IRPJavl9?usp=sharing
I’ll try to find a lossless version of the Rebels music to send to Hal

EDIT: I made the concept really quickly so I added a cross fade between two of the tracks. I also added the lossless Rebels track to the Google drive link in case anyone wants to use it.

Hal 9000 said:

Hmm. I don’t really see or hear how that helps. I really don’t have any issue with what’s there, and that just sounds like a good transition with something discordant over top. Sorry, but I don’t think it’s an improvement, at least not to my ears.

I made the concept in like three minutes and I didn’t cross fade the Rey theme with the Rebels music so that’s why it sounded like “a good transition with something discordant over top”. I’ve added a cross fade to the concept track which sounds better now and added the Rebels track to the Google drive link so if any other audiophiles wants to use it to make the fade to credits transition better they can. If you don’t want to use it Hal that’s completely understandable; It was worth a shot though.

Hal 9000 said:

The norm seems to be that Jedi continue to, or tend to, manifest as they appeared when they died. I’m sure this is not a requirement, but a convention. And one has to venture into alternate versions of the films to break this norm (04SE or subsequent).

I’d rather they had filmed Hayden doing something substanative than used CGI to recreate Shaw. However, since they didn’t and using CGI is necessary to get either of them, I think Shaw fits better. Otherwise it’s three old men and Hayden. Shaw is the only Anakin ghost for me in ROTJ, and so it would seem to fit naturally for TROS.

That being said, I’m content with Hayden’s Anakin as he currently appears in jonh’s clip if Shaw doesn’t quite pan out.

I absolutely LOVE Hayden replacing Shaw in ROTJ. IMO it means nothing to see this person we have never seen before whereas it’s so, so satisfying to see the Anakin we know and love reunited with his old masters in the light side, looking upon his son and daughter. Even better seeing him return in jonh’s incredible work! If only he had appeared to Ben in the original movie 😕 (Or if he was with his family at the edit’s end 😉 )

I hope that if Hal does find a way to incorporate Shaw that he will have an “alternate” option like he does with his Labyrinth of Evil edit. I have no disrespect for Shaw but as someone who grew up with Hayden as Anakin I would much prefer he be kept. It’s his voice we hear, he works very well in the scene, and obviously had this been in the theatrical cut they would have used Hayden. I understand many fans attachment to Shaw in Return of the Jedi. But honestly he would simply feel unnatural in The Rise of Skywalker.

DZ-330 said:

Icecream2448 said:

Speaking of the ending, the music transition into “Directed by JJ Abrams” still feels weird. I know it’s been discussed a lot, so sorry if it’s already been decided upon and everything. It’s, like, abrupt and there is no flow or the usual “jolt” feeling you get when the credits roll. It just feels jarring and jump cut in the audio. I’m sure it’s incredibly difficult to get a proper timing with what appears to be two seperate audio tracks, but it’s just not feeling right.

Could it just be because of how we’re hearing the music as the Falcon is slowly entering hyperspace? Is the timing just all out of whack for my liking?

+1, I was a strong supporter of letting the music play out a little more because the timing cuts in perfectly.

https://vimeo.com/425012849

+1

I VERY much prefer how this transitions into the end credits. It’s really great. I would definitely want more of the Force Theme/Rey mix to start as a lead in a little sooner, but I’m not sure how the fade in would work, or if there’s enough time for it. Are there any shots to stretch to allow that beautiful section of music to breathe?

EDIT: I did an INCREDIBLY rough pass at having the theme start earlier. Again, rough pass by me (my skills are beyond rusty), but I prefer the sort of awkward fade-in to the VERY awkward jump to the end credits in the current version. No offense intended, of course!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EI_FxpEPaXMv5p4giB1fSEZ5DykkH_AJ/view?usp=sharing

Also, +1000 to a Ben ghost. I know he’s coming eventually for this cut, but it was nice to see a version of it. I was honestly shocked and disappointed in the theater when he didn’t pop up.

Icecream2448 said:

Speaking of the ending, the music transition into “Directed by JJ Abrams” still feels weird. I know it’s been discussed a lot, so sorry if it’s already been decided upon and everything. It’s, like, abrupt and there is no flow or the usual “jolt” feeling you get when the credits roll. It just feels jarring and jump cut in the audio. I’m sure it’s incredibly difficult to get a proper timing with what appears to be two seperate audio tracks, but it’s just not feeling right.

Could it just be because of how we’re hearing the music as the Falcon is slowly entering hyperspace? Is the timing just all out of whack for my liking?

I made a cut of the ending with quieter music rather than standard SW fanfare, but I get the impression that’s not what you’re asking for.