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the reasons why episodes 7 8 and 9 will/should be made

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First off  no one in their right mind is going to turn away a billion dollars in profit. We all know GL  could care less about how bad star wars suffers or gets belittled so long as it turns a  profit. Second the story line dictates it  and it needs it.   After episode 6 the  galaxy is still in turmoil. the  jedi council  needs to be restablished and the republic rebuilt. Plus just because  vader and the emperor are dead and the death star was destroyed  that is not all of the empire also mark hamail still looks  very youthful. He has hardly aged and as much as I hate  hayden as anakin who is to say he cant be in it as a force ghost. I think it's just a matter of time before these episodes are made Is it a good idea?  Maybe   and then again maybe not but the dollar and the seer profit figures  almost guarntees  these films will eventually be made. George recently said the live action tv show is now permantly on hold. perhaps  this is one reason why.

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haljordan28 said:

the reasons why episodes 7 8 and 9 will/should be made

I see none. And thankfully neither does George.

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Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

Imagine CGI Luke bouncing up and down like a goddamn rabbit on speed, twirling his lightsaber like some luminous green baton. I wouldn't want to see that and neither would you.

The story of the ST exists for me in the EU. If I want to explore the trials and tribulations of the fledgling New Republic and their victory over the Imperial remnants then I'll read some books and comics penned by better writers than ol' Georgy Porgy.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

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If Lucas hands the directing reins over to someone else, it might work.

Remember, those story treatments for seven eight and nine are probably in his desk drawer, even though he denies they ever existed these days. ;)

Motion capture is getting better all the time, so the sequels can be set just about any period after Jedi. And I'm sure Lucas has seen Tron Legacy, with it's youthful Jeff Bridges doppelganger.

The box office take for the 3D releases will tip the scales one way or the other.

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three films about the old republis would work too.  Just the fact of  how much profit these films would bring in guarntees their eventual making. There is no  two ways around it. I agree that  7 8 and 9 if directed and writen by george would probably suck as bad as the PT   but I would hope he has learned something  or would hand the ball off to someone else. Know lucas he would have the ewoks and gungans in episode  7.

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You know, I think Star Wars and Empire are awesome, great movies, you know, the usual rant...

Then Jedi is still good, I love it but I'm biased because it was the first movie I ever saw, but there's a significant drop in quality compared to SW and Empire. It's tolerable and the movie still has a lot of redeemable moments.

Then we had The Phantom Menace, another big drop in quality, this time is not so tolearable, at least it still looks like a film for the most part, and Liam Neeson did a good job and in short it was not the clusterfuck that the other prequels were.

Which brings us to Clones and Sith, incredibly, from my point of view, there was another huge drop in quality when compared to TPM. I'm not sure which is worse, maybe Clones, because I feel nothing in it makes any sense, but Sith is pretty much the same shit with a slightly cooler ending and whole lot of ridiculous moments. So I guess one could say the quality remained the same with those two.

Anyway, my point is that every SW movie, with the exception of Empire has been worse, and many times a whole lot worse, than the last, so for that reason I don't think there should be another trilogy, by the time we get to Episode IX we'll be on Ed Wood territory.

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Harrison Ford said a long time ago he wouldn't do Han Solo again.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Not a big deal to me. Just do something that involves a whole new cast of characters.

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WhatsMyName said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

I have always thought an episode between 3 and 4  would be a good idea  as there is much that can be shown  and  their is a back story to take  to it.

At the end of episode 3 the death star is under construction. In a new hope no one knows what the death star is as they approach it in the falcon but all the sudden obi-wan  knows its a space station. I have always thought the force told him that and I still do but there is a chance he knew because he has seen it and been on it before. Hence vader telling ben on the death star "you should not have COME BACK"  as if he had been there before. Vader tells luke that obi-wan once thought as he did when luke tried to turn him back to the good side of the force. That can be bens reason for being on the death star at that time.  Going to try and make one last attempt to save his old friend. Not to mention such a film would give us a chance  to see costumed vader  in saber duels.Which Im all for if it is not the ninja kung fu sword styles we got with the PT. We  could get to see vader hunting down what is left of the jedi. they numbered in the thousands. no way order 66 killed them all.  Plus  qui gon could be in it mentoring obi-wan and training him.

There is much  an episode 3.5 could touch on.

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haljordan28 said:

WhatsMyName said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

I have always thought an episode between 3 and 4  would be a good idea  as there is much that can be shown  and  their is a back story to take  to it.

There is much  an episode 3.5 could touch on.

 

That's what the upcoming live action series is.

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haljordan28 said:

WhatsMyName said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

I have always thought an episode between 3 and 4  would be a good idea  as there is much that can be shown  and  their is a back story to take  to it.

At the end of episode 3 the death star is under construction. In a new hope no one knows what the death star is as they approach it in the falcon but all the sudden obi-wan  knows its a space station. I have always thought the force told him that and I still do but there is a chance he knew because he has seen it and been on it before. Hence vader telling ben on the death star "you should not have COME BACK"  as if he had been there before. Vader tells luke that obi-wan once thought as he did when luke tried to turn him back to the good side of the force. That can be bens reason for being on the death star at that time.  Going to try and make one last attempt to save his old friend. Not to mention such a film would give us a chance  to see costumed vader  in saber duels.Which Im all for if it is not the ninja kung fu sword styles we got with the PT. We  could get to see vader hunting down what is left of the jedi. they numbered in the thousands. no way order 66 killed them all.  Plus  qui gon could be in it mentoring obi-wan and training him.

There is much  an episode 3.5 could touch on.

Hal it's funny, one moment your bashing the hell out of George and his prequels, then the next your talking about how he should do more work.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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haljordan28 said:

WhatsMyName said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

I have always thought an episode between 3 and 4  would be a good idea  as there is much that can be shown  and  their is a back story to take  to it.

At the end of episode 3 the death star is under construction. In a new hope no one knows what the death star is as they approach it in the falcon but all the sudden obi-wan  knows its a space station. I have always thought the force told him that and I still do but there is a chance he knew because he has seen it and been on it before. Hence vader telling ben on the death star "you should not have COME BACK"  as if he had been there before. Vader tells luke that obi-wan once thought as he did when luke tried to turn him back to the good side of the force. That can be bens reason for being on the death star at that time.  Going to try and make one last attempt to save his old friend. Not to mention such a film would give us a chance  to see costumed vader  in saber duels.Which Im all for if it is not the ninja kung fu sword styles we got with the PT. We  could get to see vader hunting down what is left of the jedi. they numbered in the thousands. no way order 66 killed them all.  Plus  qui gon could be in it mentoring obi-wan and training him.

There is much  an episode 3.5 could touch on.

 Yes, there's enough material to make an episode 3.5 even if it was a fan film, a fan animated film or whatever. The live action series... I think GL won't be doing it about Vader persuing the Jedi; IMO he will do as usual, about "the trooper's pov, and the smugglers pov". Why? Because he loves it. He loves those pov, he not only did it in the clone wars, but he put a greaser as a pseudo-HanSoloish character in Indiana Jones IV, and is making a movie about the pilots in WWII.

He loves this characters that have "fonzie's style", and loves to show the quotidian side of things in his galaxy far far away.

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Mithrandir said:

haljordan28 said:

WhatsMyName said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

I have always thought an episode between 3 and 4  would be a good idea  as there is much that can be shown  and  their is a back story to take  to it.

At the end of episode 3 the death star is under construction. In a new hope no one knows what the death star is as they approach it in the falcon but all the sudden obi-wan  knows its a space station. I have always thought the force told him that and I still do but there is a chance he knew because he has seen it and been on it before. Hence vader telling ben on the death star "you should not have COME BACK"  as if he had been there before. Vader tells luke that obi-wan once thought as he did when luke tried to turn him back to the good side of the force. That can be bens reason for being on the death star at that time.  Going to try and make one last attempt to save his old friend. Not to mention such a film would give us a chance  to see costumed vader  in saber duels.Which Im all for if it is not the ninja kung fu sword styles we got with the PT. We  could get to see vader hunting down what is left of the jedi. they numbered in the thousands. no way order 66 killed them all.  Plus  qui gon could be in it mentoring obi-wan and training him.

There is much  an episode 3.5 could touch on.

 Yes, there's enough material to make an episode 3.5 even if it was a fan film, a fan animated film or whatever. The live action series... I think GL won't be doing it about Vader persuing the Jedi; IMO he will do as usual, about "the trooper's pov, and the smugglers pov". Why? Because he loves it. He loves those pov, he not only did it in the clone wars, but he put a greaser as a pseudo-HanSoloish character in Indiana Jones IV, and is making a movie about the pilots in WWII.

He loves this characters that have "fonzie's style", and loves to show the quotidian side of things in his galaxy far far away.

That's not QUITE what he did in the PT, though ;)

I mean, parts of it, maybe... but mostly, nah.

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When did I ever mention the PT in my post?? ;)

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Mithrandir said:

When did I ever mention the PT in my post?? ;)

Quit being stupid. You just wrote a paragraph or 2 about what "GL loves doing in his stories" and how this will influence the life action series / theoretical 3.5 movie or whatever, and you're wondering where you "brought up the PT"?

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haljordan28 said:

 Second the story line dictates it  and it needs it.   After episode 6 the  galaxy is still in turmoil. the  jedi council  needs to be restablished and the republic rebuilt

 I for one never thought this. The Empire is destroyed, and things are looking up for everyone, and the people did it without Jedi (for the most part) so why are they so important?

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twooffour said:

Mithrandir said:

When did I ever mention the PT in my post?? ;)

Quit being stupid. You just wrote a paragraph or 2 about what "GL loves doing in his stories" and how this will influence the life action series / theoretical 3.5 movie or whatever, and you're wondering where you "brought up the PT"?

More proof you don't understand how ;) is used.

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TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

Mithrandir said:

When did I ever mention the PT in my post?? ;)

Quit being stupid. You just wrote a paragraph or 2 about what "GL loves doing in his stories" and how this will influence the life action series / theoretical 3.5 movie or whatever, and you're wondering where you "brought up the PT"?

More proof you don't understand how ;) is used.

Oh shit... I think I just kinda overlooked it :O

Saw it with the corner of my eye, and thought it was an "angry exclamation mark" or something...

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EyeShotFirst said:

Hal it's funny, one moment your bashing the hell out of George and his prequels, then the next your talking about how he should do more work.

Hey, it's haljordan. Lack of coherence is his trademark.

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Alexrd said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Hal it's funny, one moment your bashing the hell out of George and his prequels, then the next your talking about how he should do more work.

Hey, it's haljordan. Lack of coherence is his trademark.

Well, that and weird spacing.

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EyeShotFirst said:

haljordan28 said:

WhatsMyName said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

 

Too late for that. Unless u exclude Harrison Ford.

And as much as i would like to see a VII VIII IX, i don't see how it can be done. if any SW movies should be made, it should be a novel from the Old Republic or something before or during the Clone Wars.

I have always thought an episode between 3 and 4  would be a good idea  as there is much that can be shown  and  their is a back story to take  to it.

At the end of episode 3 the death star is under construction. In a new hope no one knows what the death star is as they approach it in the falcon but all the sudden obi-wan  knows its a space station. I have always thought the force told him that and I still do but there is a chance he knew because he has seen it and been on it before. Hence vader telling ben on the death star "you should not have COME BACK"  as if he had been there before. Vader tells luke that obi-wan once thought as he did when luke tried to turn him back to the good side of the force. That can be bens reason for being on the death star at that time.  Going to try and make one last attempt to save his old friend. Not to mention such a film would give us a chance  to see costumed vader  in saber duels.Which Im all for if it is not the ninja kung fu sword styles we got with the PT. We  could get to see vader hunting down what is left of the jedi. they numbered in the thousands. no way order 66 killed them all.  Plus  qui gon could be in it mentoring obi-wan and training him.

There is much  an episode 3.5 could touch on.

Hal it's funny, one moment your bashing the hell out of George and his prequels, then the next your talking about how he should do more work.

Yes I do hate the PT films.  They make me sick. i also hate what Lucas turned into and what he has done but that doesnt mean he cant redeem himself.  He knows     how to make  star wars good again  if he wanted to.  Hire kasdan again and maybe another talanted writer  and bring in a great director and hire kurtz back. Bring back the peoplwe whop have emotion invested in the story  and people that actually care. Rick mcallaum is pure scum