The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977) Stereo Mix (LD rip available)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgoH-FbeBEf0OGS77dPfnT8QQJP3ODwmi

Thanks to this playlist, the 1996 VHS of this 1977 film from Walt Disney Productions has a 2-Channel stereo mix that is nowhere on any other release except on this tape. Probably this is a stereo remix for this special VHS edition.

Using the recent remastered version with this stereo mix, it makes me think with most Disney films in the 70s, they released stuff in mono optical sound on 16/35mm prints through the RCA Sound System (Photophone).

For the 1996 VHS, Disney was celebrating 30 years of the first Winnie the Pooh featurette, The Honey Tree in 1966.

When Buddy Baker, the music director/arranger/conductor of the Pooh featurettes, recorded the scores for the 3 (Honey Tree, Blustery Day, Tigger Too!), it was probably recorded in multi-track analog tape and mixed in stereo, downmixed for mono optical sound prints, and was kept in the Disney vaults until this specific video release in '96.

Stereo tapes/records were available in 1965/66, 1968, and 1974 (when the shorts were made.)

(In the link, you’ll notice in the opening music cue, the violins are panned left and the harp is panned right.)

So with the recent release on Blu-Ray and with the 1996 Stereo Mix, it should make a unique experience.

Had a listen to this mix via some videos on both the playlist embed in the original post and an Internet Archive playlist of the same tape (unfortunately featuring only the first 20 minutes or so of the film as opposed to the YouTube playlist), and I am floored by how wide/spacious it is compared to most of the other home video releases’ audio tracks! Any idea if the opening music to Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day and the closing cues to …and the Honey Tree and …and Tigger Too were recorded in stereo, too?

If Disney can’t be bothered to use the original stereophonic stems for their multi-channel remixes, they should definitely use them for a Legacy Collection CD set of the “Winnie the Pooh” featurettes/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh…

WaltWiz1901 said:

Had a listen to this mix via some videos on both the playlist embed in the original post and an Internet Archive playlist of the same tape (unfortunately featuring only the first 20 minutes or so of the film as opposed to the YouTube playlist), and I am floored by how wide/spacious it is compared to most of the other home video releases’ audio tracks! Any idea if the opening music to Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day and the closing cues to …and the Honey Tree and …and Tigger Too were recorded in stereo, too?

If Disney can’t be bothered to use the original stereophonic stems for their multi-channel remixes, they should definitely use them for a Legacy Collection CD set of the “Winnie the Pooh” featurettes/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh…

It is possible that Buddy Baker’s recordings were a simple three-channel mix. As in Honey Tree was recorded in 1965/66. On 35mm magnetic track masters. The 1996 laserdisc of Many Adventures is probably the highest quality out there. The 5.1 mix doesn’t come close to it.

rwinger24 said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Had a listen to this mix via some videos on both the playlist embed in the original post and an Internet Archive playlist of the same tape (unfortunately featuring only the first 20 minutes or so of the film as opposed to the YouTube playlist), and I am floored by how wide/spacious it is compared to most of the other home video releases’ audio tracks! Any idea if the opening music to Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day and the closing cues to …and the Honey Tree and …and Tigger Too were recorded in stereo, too?

If Disney can’t be bothered to use the original stereophonic stems for their multi-channel remixes, they should definitely use them for a Legacy Collection CD set of the “Winnie the Pooh” featurettes/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh…

It is possible that Buddy Baker’s recordings were a simple three-channel mix. As in Honey Tree was recorded in 1965/66. On 35mm magnetic track masters. The 1996 laserdisc of Many Adventures is probably the highest quality out there. The 5.1 mix doesn’t come close to it.

Very interesting! (I had a listen to the 5.1 remix (which has been Disney’s go-to audio track for this film since 2002) not so long ago, and aside from a few directional sound effects here and there, it just wasn’t the same as the Masterpiece Collection releases’ stereo surround mix. The Blu-ray apparently has a 2.0 surround track in addition to the three main English/Spanish/French 5.1 tracks, but I’m not sure if it’s the same mix as the VHS/LaserDisc or a downmix of the English 5.1 (really, really hoping it’s the former…).)

Has anyone on or outside of this forum attempted ripping the PCM Dolby Surround(?) mix from the 1996 LaserDisc (the front cover semi-erroneously addresses Dolby Surround as “Dolby Stereo”, which is the theatrical name for that encoding process)? PM me if you have.

WaltWiz1901 said:

rwinger24 said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Had a listen to this mix via some videos on both the playlist embed in the original post and an Internet Archive playlist of the same tape (unfortunately featuring only the first 20 minutes or so of the film as opposed to the YouTube playlist), and I am floored by how wide/spacious it is compared to most of the other home video releases’ audio tracks! Any idea if the opening music to Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day and the closing cues to …and the Honey Tree and …and Tigger Too were recorded in stereo, too?

If Disney can’t be bothered to use the original stereophonic stems for their multi-channel remixes, they should definitely use them for a Legacy Collection CD set of the “Winnie the Pooh” featurettes/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh…

It is possible that Buddy Baker’s recordings were a simple three-channel mix. As in Honey Tree was recorded in 1965/66. On 35mm magnetic track masters. The 1996 laserdisc of Many Adventures is probably the highest quality out there. The 5.1 mix doesn’t come close to it.

Very interesting! (I had a listen to the 5.1 remix (which has been Disney’s go-to audio track for this film since 2002) not so long ago, and aside from a few directional sound effects here and there, it just wasn’t the same as the Masterpiece Collection releases’ stereo surround mix. The Blu-ray apparently has a 2.0 surround track in addition to the three main English/Spanish/French 5.1 tracks, but I’m not sure if it’s the same mix as the VHS/LaserDisc or a downmix of the English 5.1 (really, really hoping it’s the former…).)

Has anyone on or outside of this forum attempted ripping the PCM Dolby Surround(?) mix from the 1996 LaserDisc (the front cover semi-erroneously addresses Dolby Surround as “Dolby Stereo”, which is the theatrical name for that encoding process)? PM me if you have.

I have the 1996 Laserdisc and I ripped it if you’re interested. 😃

simps said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

rwinger24 said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Had a listen to this mix via some videos on both the playlist embed in the original post and an Internet Archive playlist of the same tape (unfortunately featuring only the first 20 minutes or so of the film as opposed to the YouTube playlist), and I am floored by how wide/spacious it is compared to most of the other home video releases’ audio tracks! Any idea if the opening music to Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day and the closing cues to …and the Honey Tree and …and Tigger Too were recorded in stereo, too?

If Disney can’t be bothered to use the original stereophonic stems for their multi-channel remixes, they should definitely use them for a Legacy Collection CD set of the “Winnie the Pooh” featurettes/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh…

It is possible that Buddy Baker’s recordings were a simple three-channel mix. As in Honey Tree was recorded in 1965/66. On 35mm magnetic track masters. The 1996 laserdisc of Many Adventures is probably the highest quality out there. The 5.1 mix doesn’t come close to it.

Very interesting! (I had a listen to the 5.1 remix (which has been Disney’s go-to audio track for this film since 2002) not so long ago, and aside from a few directional sound effects here and there, it just wasn’t the same as the Masterpiece Collection releases’ stereo surround mix. The Blu-ray apparently has a 2.0 surround track in addition to the three main English/Spanish/French 5.1 tracks, but I’m not sure if it’s the same mix as the VHS/LaserDisc or a downmix of the English 5.1 (really, really hoping it’s the former…).)

Has anyone on or outside of this forum attempted ripping the PCM Dolby Surround(?) mix from the 1996 LaserDisc (the front cover semi-erroneously addresses Dolby Surround as “Dolby Stereo”, which is the theatrical name for that encoding process)? PM me if you have.

I have the 1996 Laserdisc and I ripped it if you’re interested. 😃

Cool! I’d love to hear it (and I’m pretty sure there are a few others out there who feel the same way). The audio mixes on most releases of this film are way too flat compared to the robust stereo mix on the 1996 releases.

Awesome!! Can you send it to me too?

So, have anybody else attempted to rip the 1996 LaserDisc and upload it online? The first poster to do so hasn’t shared us the link to their rip yet.

Also, I’ve been thinking - has anyone here attempted to create a new and improved 5.1 remix using the stereophonic score stems from the 1996 releases? It sure would beat the “broad mono” track on the 2002-onward releases…

You can send me a PM also?

Another thing, the playlist does not load. Maybe taken down by the copyright, darn!

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

WaltWiz1901 said:

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

I’ve already sent you my copy of the LD. Did you check your messages ?

simps said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

I’ve already sent you my copy of the LD. Did you check your messages ?

I did, but I couldn’t play it. Is there any way you could make a rip file that’s easier to watch prior to - or without - downloading it?

WaltWiz1901 said:

simps said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

I’ve already sent you my copy of the LD. Did you check your messages ?

I did, but I couldn’t play it. Is there any way you could make a rip file that’s easier to watch prior to - or without - downloading it?

I can send an LDrip in mkv format through pm if desired.

simps said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

simps said:

WaltWiz1901 said:

Unfortunately not a LaserDisc rip (which would’ve been way better), but someone on Internet Archive has finally uploaded a full hi-fi rip of the 1996 VHS! Considering he previously also uploaded a rip with a linear mono track and a split-up rip with the hi-fi stereo track, this was a godsend for someone who really wanted to find a better, full rip of this particular release.

https://ia803203.us.archive.org/14/items/the-many-adventures-of-winnie-the-pooh-1996-vhs/The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1996 VHS).mp4

I’ve already sent you my copy of the LD. Did you check your messages ?

I did, but I couldn’t play it. Is there any way you could make a rip file that’s easier to watch prior to - or without - downloading it?

I can send an LDrip in mkv format through pm if desired.

Either that or an .mp4 file could do!

Can you send me a private link for the mkv file to me too?

could i get the link too?

Is it possible to get the LD audio synced to the Blu ray? I’m interested on that, but I suck at audio work/syncing unless its just adding a delay

Would you please PM me a link to the MKV file as well?