The Hobbit (M4 Book Edit) (Released) — Page 9

Hello!

Is it possible to get a link for download? Thank you!

I just wanted to drop back into this thread to let you know that I used this edit over the past few months to introduce Tolkien to my 6 year old daughter. We would listen to a chapter of Bluefax’s amazing audiobook and then watch the corresponding part of the movie. It all went over very well, and we wrapped up just this past weekend. The slightly reduced action quotient and fewer departures from the text made this ideal for us. Thank you!

Hello can I get a download link for the 1080p version of this edit? Thanks!

I would love a link to this version.

sidshady12 said:

Pmed all, cheers guys.

All this middle earth hype with the new Amazon show & people asking for links is makin me wanna go back to editing The Hobbit…Maybe later this year I’ll take another look at the project, see if any new ideas come to mind after sitting on a finished release for almost a year.

Its good hear something possitive come form the series (no offence meant to any that enjoyed the show). I just like to say that this edit has become my families go to version of The Hobbit after I introduced it to them and we will be including it in our next marathon later this year. That being said I would love to see what else you come up with and encourage you to persue any idea you have. If they, work great! If not, its not like it will being ruining anything or hurting anyone. You have already polished a turd (more of a diamond in the rough but hey the first saying fit the sentance better), so there is no doubt in you skills!!

Thank you so much for all the hard work you and the other contributers put in and good luck on you’re next endevor!

Thank you!

Also Pmed everyone

Hi, I’d love to get a download link for the M4 Book Edit as well 😃
Thanks for your work and dedication!

Hello there
I’d love a download link for this edit? It sounds great!

Pmed all.

Also, as of this past month:

• Edit has been updated (Digital & new ISOs both up)
• A few minor tweaks in the 2nd half, essentially reducing unnecessary final battle action/smoothing out Bilbo’s retreat & Ravenhill, and now putting back in some character moments. Runtime is unchanged. Full changelist is in the drive.
• ISO has 2 new special features, one with Dol Guldur and a new Thorin deleted scene.

sidshady12 said:

Pmed all.

Also, as of this past month:

• Edit has been updated (Digital & new ISOs both up)
• A few minor tweaks in the 2nd half, essentially reducing unnecessary final battle action/smoothing out Bilbo’s retreat & Ravenhill, and now putting back in some character moments. Runtime is unchanged. Full changelist is in the drive.
• ISO has 2 new special features, one with Dol Guldur and a new Thorin deleted scene.

Do you foresee yourself ever remastering this edit in 4k?

Hey sidshady. If you’re still around, can I get a link to the updated edit?

rik said:

Hi. About this question, I can share with you my experience: for this edit and for my private vision, i created the italian dub (@sidshady12 write me if you are interested to add to your edit). It’s long process (it depends how much time do you dedicate, probably in a month you can do it, i worked mostly at the weekends), but it isn’t so hard. What you need are: the audio tracks of the extended version of the movies and the list of changes and cut made by sidshady12 (you can find them here or on his website). What i did is extract the audio track of M4 Book edit and all extended movies and i opened them in Adobe Audition (i think it’s a great program to do this kind of things because you can work on audio adding effects or separate dialogue and backing music). Then i opened the movie on a video player and the original movie on another video player. Then i watched the two movies at the same time, so i can noticed when he made cuts. I suggest to you to maintain the M4 Book Edit’s track as basic track and replace only dialogues parts. Then is easy compiling a new movie edit file adding the track in your language (i used MKVToolnix) and forced subtitle track. The only parts not translated is the final Gandalf’s speech at Thorin’s funeral, that part i left it in english with subtitle. Ask me anything you want.

Hi. Do you still have the italian dub? I would be interested in checking it out (for private vision only of course), even if it’s not the updated version. Would you PM me in case you’re willing to share it?

Hey all,

I have been working on some revisions after reviewing all available source footage (something I hadn’t really done in years). I’ll spare the details (which you can find on my corresponding fanedit.org thread or on fanedits reddit), here are the main ideas:

• Added 2 deleted shots of Dwarves in cells (from Appendices) into Woodland Realm
• Laketown sequence extended by 1 minute, many felt it was too quick. Now it’s as long as possible, given available footage. Added a few more shots/5 lines of dialogue back into Smaug-Bilbo sequence.
• Improved “Last Light” scene to feel much more smooth.
• Redone Ravenhill sequence to relate back to the flow of the battle in the book a bit more, while still being just as cinematically satisfying and enjoyable, hopefully also feeling like it “drags on” a bit less
• Various tidying up here and there, full changelog will come

If anyone else has suggestions, now is the time. After comparing my edit to the source footage again, I really feel confident that every possible shot has been contemplated. Don’t want anything left on the table, hopefully am able to deliver the most book-accurate extended edition style adaptation of The Hobbit possible with the footage we have.

I would like to have the link.

sidshady12, I cant say enough good things about your edit of The Hobbit. In fact I think it’s the most successful fan edit I’ve ever watched.

It’s great to hear that you’ve polished it still further, could I have a link please to update my copy?

The update isn’t ready yet, I guess I didn’t specify that so my bad. I had implied I was still finishing it up when asking for any final suggestions (which offer is still open!), but I should have it ready within the next month or two

sidshady12 said:

The update isn’t ready yet, I guess I didn’t specify that so my bad. I had implied I was still finishing it up when asking for any final suggestions (which offer is still open!), but I should have it ready within the next month or two

The only suggestion to improve it now would be to use the 4K source, but I imagine that would be a real long trudge across ground you’ve already covered once.

It’s a brilliant edit, and it can stand proudly alongside the three LOTR movies.

Souds very interesting! Would love to see it more accurate. J

sidshady12 said:

Hey all,

I have been working on some revisions after reviewing all available source footage (something I hadn’t really done in years). I’ll spare the details (which you can find on my corresponding fanedit.org thread or on fanedits reddit), here are the main ideas:

• Added 2 deleted shots of Dwarves in cells (from Appendices) into Woodland Realm
• Laketown sequence extended by 1 minute, many felt it was too quick. Now it’s as long as possible, given available footage. Added a few more shots/5 lines of dialogue back into Smaug-Bilbo sequence.
• Improved “Last Light” scene to feel much more smooth.
• Redone Ravenhill sequence to relate back to the flow of the battle in the book a bit more, while still being just as cinematically satisfying and enjoyable, hopefully also feeling like it “drags on” a bit less
• Various tidying up here and there, full changelog will come

If anyone else has suggestions, now is the time. After comparing my edit to the source footage again, I really feel confident that every possible shot has been contemplated. Don’t want anything left on the table, hopefully am able to deliver the most book-accurate extended edition style adaptation of The Hobbit possible with the footage we have.

Fantastic! Glad to see new work flow and revisions of this incredible piece of film editing and visual tweaking which has been made posible. I am most interested in removing all irrelevant and in your face shots of Far Easterling and Haradwaith people in the shots at Lake Town, and in the encampment after the death of Smaug the Magnificent.

I will do a following post with timestamps and indication as to where they are, so if you desire to flip and switch shots, or maybe add BTS footage, you can do so.

Matt.F said:

sidshady12 said:

The update isn’t ready yet, I guess I didn’t specify that so my bad. I had implied I was still finishing it up when asking for any final suggestions (which offer is still open!), but I should have it ready within the next month or two

The only suggestion to improve it now would be to use the 4K source, but I imagine that would be a real long trudge across ground you’ve already covered once.

It’s a brilliant edit, and it can stand proudly alongside the three LOTR movies.

The 4K source is truly horrid, apart from having to recolor the whole image to bring it up to his standards.

I noticed that the treatment that was done to the digital 3D footage of The Hobbit, was also the same as the 35mm film of TLOTR.

To explain in detail and with captures and examples I will post this video essay which links these comparisons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Z58uiwcME&t=441s

But to sum it up the AI eraser tool DNR, and the level of compression artifacts added to the picture is monumentally abhorrent. I was very surprised by it, due to the fact that The Hobbit was shot digitally.

I think the LOTR 4k version is still okay. I watched it, the audio is great, HDR is great, some of the color grading is better (no green tint in FOTR), and some of the shots do actually look more detailed especially shots where you can see miniatures in the background, you can notice things you never noticed on 1080p. However, I agree that the DNR (less film grain) completely sucks. I love film grain, and the waxy look in many of the shots is unfortunate. I think a color corrected LOTR Blu-ray fan edit would probably be the best way to watch LOTR for me.

As for Hobbit, it never had film grain so it’s not going to have much or any DNR I bet, but I never watched it so maybe you are right it does have problems.

For me, the reasons I don’t want to use the 4k Hobbit as a source are because: have to redo the color grading, I need to upgrade software/hardware/purchase the discs & a new disc drive, and even when I finish most people will still not even want the 4k version because it’s too big of a file. I have done some additional color tweaking in BOTFA in my edit’s next update to help reduce the excessive glowing highlights, so whatever improvements the 4k version made to the look of the films I think my edit at least isn’t left in the dust because I have tried to improve the look as much as possible.

Agreed with the level of quality in regards to the audio file improvements with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision (though some altered and missing sound effects where lost during the process), there is new detail in wide shots which where not as visible before, but there is also missing bit and pieces which impact the overall feel of the image (Waxy and ultra crisp back around and close-ups). With the colour grading much of the memorial scenes where deliberately changed for cohesion and congruence with the Hobbit, other decisions do rely more on preference.

The truth is that a raw 4K scan according to informants was accomplished for the Panasonic 35mm celluloid film, but the post-processing and meddling of the work was so baldly upgraded that is falls short in what it could have been released in the year 2020. To show off other examples in which our Peter Jackson and team was meddled with 35mm film specifically, you may watch They Shall not Grow Old (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7905466/) or Get Back (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9735318/)

The Hobbit had a bit of grain in the lower number as digital cameras, and yet it was heavily DNR, I recommend you give them a watch. 😃

sidshady12 said:

I think the LOTR 4k version is still okay. I watched it, the audio is great, HDR is great, some of the color grading is better (no green tint in FOTR), and some of the shots do actually look more detailed especially shots where you can see miniatures in the background, you can notice things you never noticed on 1080p. However, I agree that the DNR (less film grain) completely sucks. I love film grain, and the waxy look in many of the shots is unfortunate. I think a color corrected LOTR Blu-ray fan edit would probably be the best way to watch LOTR for me.

As for Hobbit, it never had film grain so it’s not going to have much or any DNR I bet, but I never watched it so maybe you are right it does have problems.

For me, the reasons I don’t want to use the 4k Hobbit as a source are because: have to redo the color grading, I need to upgrade software/hardware/purchase the discs & a new disc drive, and even when I finish most people will still not even want the 4k version because it’s too big of a file. I have done some additional color tweaking in BOTFA in my edit’s next update to help reduce the excessive glowing highlights, so whatever improvements the 4k version made to the look of the films I think my edit at least isn’t left in the dust because I have tried to improve the look as much as possible.

There are color corrected 1080p extended versions of The Fellowship of the Ring and Two Towers. A fellow Ukrainian has been working on them for awhile. (https://rutracker.org/forum/tracker.php?pid=38050461)

¿Have you had a chance to watch the 35mm theatrical scans of the Lord of the Rings? They have been promoted on this forum.

Sounds like awesome work you did ! would love to try your version, could i have a link ? Thanks for your hard work !