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Yeah my placeholder so far is just one in white. I’ll see what free VFX programs and tutorials I can find. Thanks again!

“I don’t believe it.”

“That is why you Yoda.”
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Hi again, back for a couple more questions…

I noticed that in your edit, when the company is approaching Erebor, the extreme wide shows fourteen distant black figures rather than the nine in the original film. I remember seeing this shot in the Maple Edit; is this that same shot borrowed, or a new VFX shot specifically for this? Either way, what sorta permissions would I need to use the shot in my own edit? (I kinda feel dirty borrowing so much, I just have zero VFX experience… thinking about learning some basics to see if I can make my own stuff)

Second and last question, are the deleted scenes found in the appendices that come with the extended editions? I’ve wanted to re-add Gandalf’s speech in my own edit ever since I learned it was a thing. There’s also one, perhaps two other brief deleted scenes I wanted to try re-adding.

“I don’t believe it.”

“That is why you Yoda.”
Master Fail

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DrVibble said:

Hi again, back for a couple more questions…

I noticed that in your edit, when the company is approaching Erebor, the extreme wide shows fourteen distant black figures rather than the nine in the original film. I remember seeing this shot in the Maple Edit; is this that same shot borrowed, or a new VFX shot specifically for this? Either way, what sorta permissions would I need to use the shot in my own edit? (I kinda feel dirty borrowing so much, I just have zero VFX experience… thinking about learning some basics to see if I can make my own stuff)

Yeah this one is borrowed from the Maple edit. I gave full credit on both my website & fan edit documentation along with mentioning it in the audio commentary so I hope that’s good enough haha, in the fan edit community it’s totally fine to build off each other as long as you don’t try to steal credit (or use other people’s work as promotion). So with that, don’t feel bad at all about using other VFX! Especially if the edit is just for personal use. Also, since his edit was pretty compressed h264 video I just used the crop tool and grabbed the tiny specs of the Dwarves and threw them on top of the original shot. that everything is as high quality as possible.

Second and last question, are the deleted scenes found in the appendices that come with the extended editions? I’ve wanted to re-add Gandalf’s speech in my own edit ever since I learned it was a thing. There’s also one, perhaps two other brief deleted scenes I wanted to try re-adding.

Yeah they are all in the Battle of the Five armies appendices. I don’t remember which segments exactly but if you rip them and check through you will find them. You can also try googling the deleted scenes (like the acorn one) I think some have talked about which segment it was shown in. I do know the cut Eulogy was on Appendices Part 11

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Thanks for clarifying! I’ll make sure to read other edits’ specific permissions if I ever end up needing to -nab- lovingly borrow something.

Also, thanks to your tutorial and a couple of others, I think I’ve finally figured out how to get lossless Blu-Ray video and surround audio into DaVinci Resolve. I don’t know how long it would have taken me to discover that extraction trick with FFmpeg without it. Thanks so much for lending your continued help to an aspiring fan editor!

“I don’t believe it.”

“That is why you Yoda.”
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No problem, it’s always great to help others and fun to discuss Hobbit stuff here. To save you a future headache, if you notice any glitches in the video (that only show up in your editing software), you might have to bite the bullet and re-encode the MP4s. You can do the DNxHR method I showed or you can just Handbrake and put quality settings very high. My friend did the same MKV to MP4 thing with The Hobbit and had the same issue as me.

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¿Download links?
I certainly fancy this.

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I didn’t think I would ever find a perfect fan edit of the Hobbit that hit all my personal marks, but I honestly can’t think of a more definitive version than this one. I really enjoyed the Maple edit a while back but couldn’t shake a couple nagging things I disagreed with (cutting Beorn’s EE scene and Thorin’s funeral were things I would have preferred).

Your M4 edit has truly become my go-to version of these movies. I always enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy, more than the average person I would guess, but I saw them as heavily flawed with a really great movie buried underneath. Amazing job with this, and thank you for giving me my gateway into the fan edit rabbit hole!

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Dark_Avenger said:

I didn’t think I would ever find a perfect fan edit of the Hobbit that hit all my personal marks, but I honestly can’t think of a more definitive version than this one. I really enjoyed the Maple edit a while back but couldn’t shake a couple nagging things I disagreed with (cutting Beorn’s EE scene and Thorin’s funeral were things I would have preferred).

Your M4 edit has truly become my go-to version of these movies. I always enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy, more than the average person I would guess, but I saw them as heavily flawed with a really great movie buried underneath. Amazing job with this, and thank you for giving me my gateway into the fan edit rabbit hole!

Thank you so much! I feel what you mean, making a Hobbit edit is basically like putting together a puzzle in a very specific way, some pieces excluded, some included, some in different orders, and how they’re all formed comes down to the editor’s vision (personal preference), so it can be very hard to find one that you mostly agree with. Just glad to see others happen to have a similar vision as me!

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sidshady12 said:

Dark_Avenger said:

I didn’t think I would ever find a perfect fan edit of the Hobbit that hit all my personal marks, but I honestly can’t think of a more definitive version than this one. I really enjoyed the Maple edit a while back but couldn’t shake a couple nagging things I disagreed with (cutting Beorn’s EE scene and Thorin’s funeral were things I would have preferred).

Your M4 edit has truly become my go-to version of these movies. I always enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy, more than the average person I would guess, but I saw them as heavily flawed with a really great movie buried underneath. Amazing job with this, and thank you for giving me my gateway into the fan edit rabbit hole!

Thank you so much! I feel what you mean, making a Hobbit edit is basically like putting together a puzzle in a very specific way, some pieces excluded, some included, some in different orders, and how they’re all formed comes down to the editor’s vision (personal preference), so it can be very hard to find one that you mostly agree with. Just glad to see others happen to have a similar vision as me!

Absolutely. A friend of mine loved the book when he was a kid but despises the films for all the excess, so I’m really looking forward to showing him this edit.

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I absolutely envy you. I have been working on my Hobbit Edit for over two years now and constantly bang my head against shitty shots that are still somehow essential to the overall story. You simply have access to resources I can only dream of, like replacing a son with a piece of wood 😉

Honestly, I should start stealing shots and ideas from you…

For seventeen years the renegade Pfhor scoutship jumped between the closely packed stars of the galactic core. And all over the ship, dancing through the wreckage of the Pfhor computer core, Durandal was laughing…

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Vidmaster said:

I absolutely envy you. I have been working on my Hobbit Edit for over two years now and constantly bang my head against shitty shots that are still somehow essential to the overall story. You simply have access to resources I can only dream of, like replacing a son with a piece of wood 😉

Honestly, I should start stealing shots and ideas from you…

It can be very frustrating work my man - I know what you mean. I spent just a little over 2 years on mine. All the footage I use is sourced from both theatrical & extended editions of the films. If you want to borrow footage that’s fine, but just remember to give credit and I also have a subtle 35mm film grain/my own color correction (for best quality to edit, download the Blu-ray ISO version).

Or, you might like this, check this video regarding the VFX and read the description https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm2CDRDPJmU for you may find some useful things 😃

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sidshady12 said:
If you want to borrow footage that’s fine, but just remember to give credit

Don’t worry, if it ever comes to that.

sidshady12 said:
I also have a subtle 35mm film grain/my own color correction (for best quality to edit, download the Blu-ray ISO version).

This is the bigger problem. But thanks anyway, that download is much appreciated (arrows removed and GREY stone dust around the dragon). I take all you got there…

For seventeen years the renegade Pfhor scoutship jumped between the closely packed stars of the galactic core. And all over the ship, dancing through the wreckage of the Pfhor computer core, Durandal was laughing…

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Vidmaster said:

This is the bigger problem. But thanks anyway, that download is much appreciated (arrows removed and GREY stone dust around the dragon). I take all you got there…

Keep in mind that the VFX downloads don’t have any grain or color changes 😉 so those files will be identical to original movie visuals and you can apply your own color grading on top of them. It’s only if you tried to take stuff directly from my MKV

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Please PM me the link. I’m really pumped to see your cut!!!

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sidshady12 said:
Keep in mind that the VFX downloads don’t have any grain or color changes 😉 so those files will be identical to original movie visuals and you can apply your own color grading on top of them. It’s only if you tried to take stuff directly from my MKV

That is what I needed to here, perfect.

By the way, could you PM me a link? I would like to watch your cut at some point, I am very curious.

For seventeen years the renegade Pfhor scoutship jumped between the closely packed stars of the galactic core. And all over the ship, dancing through the wreckage of the Pfhor computer core, Durandal was laughing…

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Hey, I would love to check out your edit Sidshady12! PM’d you! super excited!

“Only by the Night”

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Please could you PM me a link? Many thanks, looking forward to seeing this!

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I will PM you now. Is this still available?

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Hi, Slimshady12 I’m really keen on seeing this edit. Can you PM me a link? 😃

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Can I get a link too? this sounds awesome!

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Hey, sidshady12/M4 is it still possible to get a link of your fan edit? I loved Maple Film’s edit and would love to see your take on it. I’d appreciate a link if possible but I understand if you can’t considering the situation of the website.