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(The Force Awakens) The Legacy of Captain Han Solo | A Legends Cut [Workprint Released]

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“Everything is built on the push-pull tension created by two sides of the equation. Right from the very beginning, that was the key issue in Star Wars.” -George Lucas, Times Magazine, 2002

Hello OT community,

I haven’t posted much here on the Original Trilogy board, but I have been reading and watching for years. I wanted to share that I am now working on editing each movie in the Sequel Trilogy according to my understanding of what it would look like if it shared the themes from Star Wars Legends. My work begins with TFA.

I’d love to have your feedback and suggestions as I create this, so please be open and offer criticism where you feel it is useful.

WORKPRINT RELEASED. If you are interested, please send me a PM.

Goal of my TFA edit:

  1. To more closely align to the themes of Star Wars Legends material. (https://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-crucible-canon-merging-eu-and-new-canon-as-smoothly-as-possible.50053287/)

  2. To demonstrate that balance of the force is the true evolution of a force user, not a narrow minded view of jedi/light side = good and sith/dark side = bad.

  3. To tell stories of Luke, Leia, and Han that are respectful to their OT character arcs and to better align their storylines to that of Legends.

  4. To give the new characters more realistic character arcs that stay within the bounds and limitations of Star Wars Legends and paths that logically flow between the films.

  5. To tell a good, cohesive, authentic Star Wars story that generally stays within the limits of Legends.

Inspiration behind ST edits: Like many of you, I am a huge Star Wars Legends fan. I grew up reading everything I could get my hands on, comics, novels, short stories, playing the games etc. For me, transitioning into the Disney Era was tough at times. Most notably in the ST handling of the characters I loved. My favorite theme in Star Wars has always been the balance of the force and the failures and evolution of the Jedi. Initially, I had high hopes that Luke would surpass the failures of the Jedi doctrine and lead a new generation of balanced force users as the original Je’daii did. But alas, that was not the case… However, I think there is opportunity to tell the ST trilogy in a way that aligns better with the themes that Legends created. From Dawn of the Jedi to Tales of the Jedi through the KOTOR era, the PT and OT, there was a very clear theme of balance and what happens when either the dark or Light tries to bend the force to their own narrow interpretation. I found the ST lacking in a clear reason for why it even existed in the Star Wars saga. I want viewers to leave my edit trilogy feeling like they now know something new about Star Wars, the force, and the OT trio. I want to start this trilogy off with a look into the legacy of Han Solo as we search for the reason Luke is nowhere to be found.

What I want to fix in TFA: I’d say this was my favorite film of the trilogy and the easiest to fix. Upon release, I rather liked the film, but did feel it was far too safe in its formulaic structure. Though I wouldn’t have ever called it a bad movie, with the ST now complete it’s hard to look back on this one fondly knowing the roller coaster of different themes and character arcs ahead.

Here are the main areas I will be changing in my edit.

  1. Rey’s development as a force user. Rey just learned the force was even real in the first act of this movie… I despise how fast her powers develop in this film. Some things work, but others are flat out unbelievable when we look at what Legends characters experienced in similar situations. She pilots the Falcon with incredible skill (Somewhat plausible, but that first chase needs toned down). She resists Kylo’s interrogation, and flips it in reverse (Again, rather plausible, maybe tone it down a little). She uses a Jedi mind trick without even knowing what one is (Impossible, she will be escaping her cell in a much more believable way: Check out the draft https://vimeo.com/498447945). She defeats Kylo Ren in battle during her first time ever feeling the weight of a lightsaber (Nearly impossible, the fight will be edited to display her escape as more of “luck” as the planet explodes). These power spikes cheapen her development, and prematurely affect her arc in TLJ, as well as diminish the power of every character around her. No more. She will now be consistent throughout the film, using only minor force sensitive powers by instinct. Nothing strong, barely anything intentional, as she would have no idea where to even begin focusing her power. Stop and realize she literally thought the force was a myth a few hours before these incredible feats. Nothing in Legends ever showed someone developing their force powers that quickly and using those powers in a relatively controlled light side manner for good. There is a reason the Jedi took children and trained them for decades. I want to create Rey as a character I can appreciate and respect due to her realistically paced growth as a force user, not someone I have to roll my eyes at and wonder how its possible for her to even know what that power is, let alone use it. These changes aren’t to diminish her character, but to enhance it and will make her training in TLJ so much more worthwhile and impactful. Imagine if Luke was this powerful in A New Hope… All of the tension of ESB is gone already. This is the flaw in TFA that I want to fix.

  2. Han Solo’s legacy. Han will be edited to remain as true to his RotJ arc as possible. It will be impossible to change the main storyline around his character, but references of him transitioning back into a swindling smuggler will be largely toned down. In my edit, his personal struggles are purely due to Ben’s fall and his whole character is about redeeming his son, no matter what. He isn’t a total deadbeat dad who gave up for years. He is someone who went through an excruciating experience losing his son to the Dark, then losing his wife to the pain of that situation. Deep down he remained a good person and wants to make things right. He is sad, wounded, but still the Han we know.

  3. Kylo Ren is menacing. Kylo will remain a terrifying figure throughout the film, and as the TFA novel says, “Accepting without quite believing, Han stared back into the face of the creature that had been his son. There was nothing to see there. Only darkness in the shape of a face: alien, unthinking, unfeeling.” This act will shape Kylo’s arc and his darkness will be more prevalent. I actually like his “tantrums” and don’t feel they harm his character, especially with leaving the mask reveal towards the ends of the film. He will have no problem handling a non-force user in Finn and an untrained Rey. Kylo is an EXTREMELY important character in my trilogy and he must be growing, not regressing in this film for him to have a satisfying conclusion by TRoS.

  4. Finn is no longer a slapstick comedy outlet. His character will be more serious and portrayed as a loyal, competent companion rather than a bumbling, frazzled grunt. Most of his over the top humor, his hammy reactions, and his general confusion is removed. A Stormtrooper defecting from the First Order is arguably the most interesting origin story of any of the new characters and I want to make Finn as cool as possible. Finn is clearly a decisive individual with a strong moral compass. He refused to kill innocent civilians on Jakku and he’s unwilling to continue in an organization that is in conflict with his own ethical stances. If Finn is such a confident, decisive individual based solely on his actions, I don’t know why is he always showing such doubt and fear in his words. He will now have a more consistent impact.

I will be inspired by and using content from Digmod’s Heir to the Force (and FGR’s cut of his edit), Anjohan’s edit, and NeverarGreat’s workprint, along with my own personal contributions from editing theatrical release. I also firmly believe that a Star Wars film must be at least 2 hours and anything less harms the movie. There must be a way to pace out the story to that length, even with the edits, or I will have failed.

Changelist:

Act 1:

Episode VII

HEIRS OF THE FORCE

An era of peace has ended.
Risen from the ashes of the
Empire, the FIRST ORDER
seeks to destroy the New
Republic. General Leia Organa
leads a brave Resistance
against the new threat.

Luke Skywalker has vanished to
the unknown regions of space.
Kylo Ren, warlord of the First
Order, will not rest until the last
Jedi has been slain.

Leia has sent her most daring
forces to search for Luke on
Jakku, where scavengers and
brigands ransack the remnants
of the old war….

  • Re-organized the entire First Act to make it seem like a day->night->morning cycle has passed.
  1. Film opens with Rey’s scavenging until she scratches the wall, indicating she is going to bed and the day is over.
  2. First Order assaults Lor San Tekka’s village that night.
  3. Added brief new scene of BB-8 at looking up to the night sky right before Poe’s interrogation. [NeverarGreat]
  4. Poe’s interrogation scene with Kylo is in the early morning. (Relative to the village and Rey on Jakku, as Poe is on a ship somewhere in orbit)
  5. Sunrise begins with Rey cooking breakfast and hearing BB’s capture.
  6. Finn and Poe escape from cell and are shot by the cannons midday.
  7. Rey refuses to sell BB-8.
  8. Finn wakes up from crash, and then we continue the film into the Falcon chase.
  • Film opens with Rey’s intro in the Star Destroyer, then shows some extra scenes of Jakku landscape from [Anjohan]
  • Remove Unkar Plutt’s first line in favor of an introduction to Rey which is completely without English dialogue. [NeverarGreat]
  • Removed the Poe, “who talks first” and “apparatus” lines that seemed to diminish the fear of Kylo Ren’s presence. No more Poe levity in this capture. Poe is a battle hardened war hero and his silence indicates that he is refusing to divulge any information.
  • Added Force noise as Kylo stares at Poe in the village. [Digmod]
  • Clipped Poe’s line as he is forcefully picked up, now it sounds like he was going to start saying something but the jolt of being hoisted up stops him. [Digmod]
  • Removed Kylo Ren’s “comfortable?” line and Poe’s response during Poe’s interrogation scene to avoid turning a terrifying moment into a back and forth of lighthearted quips.
  • Augment Kylo’s interrogation of Poe to include images of Starkiller and the imposing First Order theme music [NeverarGreat]
  • After Finn breaks Poe out, cut the scene after “Because it’s the right thing to do.” I want to show Finn as more resolute, not constantly afraid.
  • Removed Finn’s comment, “I’m talking to myself.” Now he is actually just telling Poe to stay calm. No self deprecating humor for no reason.
  • Removed Finn’s flippant massacre of his fellow Stormtroopers as he escapes the hangar. He is running away, not turning back to slaughter those he served with.
  • Cut Finn and Poe’s celebration after blowing up a turret and the scene of TIE flying away from Star Destroyer. Celebrating doesn’t seem appropriate considering they could still be killed at any second. They are nowhere near safe and the celebration distracts from the imminent danger.
  • Cut Poe’s, “Nice to meet you Finn.” Scene flows quicker and better by removing some of the lighter moments.
  • Cut the tie fighter blowing up after sinking in the sand. It’s an awkward pause that seems to say, “Trust us, Poe is REALLY dead,” but instead has the opposite effect.
  • Cut Finn’s, “I had a pretty messed up day.” This is modern 21st century language, not classical Star Wars language. The scene works better when Finn is angry about getting shocked rather that whining about his hardships.
  • More Finn fixes by cutting the, “This is what we look like, some of us,” lines. It becomes painfully obvious that he is not Resistance and the attempted humor isn’t needed for his character to be intriguing to us.
  • Cut Rey’s, “I know how to run without…” First, try saying this full line while sprinting a hundred yards at full speed where any blaster could pop your head off and tell me how that goes. Second, we already heard her say, “Let go of me,” which gets the point across that Rey feels like she can take care of herself. Disney really wanted to get the point across that she is strong and independent, but keep violating the show, don’t tell technique. It’s almost insulting to the audience when Rey reiterate this exact same point 3 times in the same sequence.
  • Remove Finn’s, “I can do this. I can do this.” It’s strange seeing them both say it back to back, and I want Finn to appear more sure of himself. He just did a very similar thing with the TIE fighter gun system so I’m not sure why he is suddenly so afraid again.
  • Cut Unkar’s, “hEy, tHat’S mIiiIiiNeeEE!” line for no other reason than it makes me cringe.
  • Toned down the Falcon chase by a few scenes, specifically ones that show Rey in the cockpit intentionally pulling off professional piloting maneuvers. I did leave in the final “cut-engines, turret locked” shot to show how they finally escape, but hopefully the rest of the trims make it seem like the force is guiding Rey rather than her somehow having incredible piloting skills. I also put a vertical flip on the dizzying upside down trailer shot, and removed JJ’s weird Battlestar Galactica camera zoom.
  • Removed Finn and Rey’s excessive circling celebration after they make it to space. Now their congratulations is more like a normal adult interaction.

Act 2:

  • Toned down Kylo’s tantrum by a couple seconds. I like seeing his rage, but theatrical takes it so far to make it seem like a joke. This trim makes it more intimidating like he could kill the officer at any second.
  • Removed Finn asking if Rey has, “A boyfriend? A cute boyfriend?” That line isn’t Star Wars lingo.
  • Removed Finn pushing down on Rey’s head. Who does that to a stranger? Combined with the forced hand holding and the double boyfriend inquiry, it all starts to cross the line into actual creepy behavior. That is the last thing in the world I want viewers to think about Finn.
  • Cut Han’s line when he says he “used to be Han Solo.” Also removed Finn and Rey’s confusion about who he is. Now it’s just Rey’s, “You’re Han Solo!” so it’s pure admiration. Han’s following annoyed reaction now appears not because he is frustrated that he isn’t remembered anymore, but because he is a celebrity who is tired of dealing with fanboys for the last 30 years.
  • Removed the brief hallway scene after “What’s a Rathtar?” This way we don’t see an unnecessarily afraid Finn, and Han doesn’t appear as though he failed another job by losing all of his crew. Also preserves the mystery of what a Rathtar is just a little longer.
  • Cut Chewie’s condescending grunts about Han not being able to talk his way out of situations. His grunts now appear as though he is indicating that the doors are opening to the gangs.
  • Trimmed the gang confrontation scene to remove any insulting comments directed towards Han’s abilities or career. Now the frequent cuts below floors are close enough together where the audience should understand they aren’t hearing the full conversation up above. It’s sufficient to know that there’s a gang hunting Han. No mentions of his inability to repay debt or his previous job failures. In fact, the second gang appears as though it’s just more members arriving from the Zaguava-something Death Gang rather than a new, second gang.
  • Cut down the Rathtar scene; Han and Chewie run down a corridor, they turn, Chewie is hit, Han blasts the raiders, Rey and Finn pop up from the hatch, Han shoots the door and yells “come on!” [Digmod]
  • Move the first Snoke scene to just after the map scene for better pacing. After all the gangs and Rathar nonsense we need a significant payoff with these characters, and the discussion of Luke fills that void.
  • Added hologram effect to Snoke [Digmod] but used the audio of this scene from [NeverarGreat] to hide the mentions of Han and the Falcon, as well as preserve some of Snoke’s lines for use later in the film.
  • Cut Maz’s redundant line “I like that Wookiee”. The initial “boyfriend” comment is more than enough and I desperately want to avoid the uncomfortable sexual references about Maz in TFA and TLJ.
  • Removed Maz’s line about Han “Running away from this fight for too long.” I want it to appear as though Han hasn’t totally given up and that he still helps the Resistance every once in a while (hence the reason he is delivering BB-8). Now we just see that for some reason Han is worried about seeing Leia again, but don’t yet know exactly why yet. Even in theatrical I barely understand why they need to go to Takodana at all, but now hopefully as my viewers look back it will just appear as though Han is giving BB-8 to Maz to avoid the emotional toll seeing Leia would bring. It’s now simply Han being dramatic which is something he and Leia have always shared instead of Han running from the whole war like a coward.
  • Since Maz’s previous line is removed, I also must cut Rey’s “What fight?” line and part of Maz’s response. Now right after Finn says, “We need your help,” Maz says, “Against the dark side…” as if she’s continuing his thoughts.
  • Added lightsaber sfx and enhanced (echo & reverb) Vader lines “You are not a Jedi yet” and “You don’t know the power of the dark side” along with the Emperor’s laugh to Rey’s force vision [Digmod]. Inserted previously removed footage of Rey calling out to Finn from the Rathtar scene to emphasize her care for him. [NeverarGreat] And finally replaced the final scene of Kylo knocking Rey over with a scene of Vader performing a similar action [FGR].
  • Place Kylo’s prayer right after Rey runs from the vision to better reflect the Yin Yang of the two characters.
    *Insert shots of Star Destroyer to Maz’s Castle instead of Hosnian destruction, along with SirRidley’s new music. [Credit to whoever initially made this]
  • Add sound effect of Destroyer exiting Hyperspace to help explain why everyone suddenly notices its presence. [NeverarGreat]
  • Rey’s frightened look upon killing Stormtroopers is accompanied by a sinister whispering taken from The Last Jedi. [NeverarGreat]
  • Cut Han’s forced swagger no look shot and his use + surprised comment of Chewbacca’s Bowcaster strength because Han has plenty of experience using Bowcasters in Legends (Not to mention that he even used the Bowcaster earlier in the movie), “Chewbacca paused in his efforts just long enough to throw the crossbow with one hand to Han. Han caught it, turned in one smooth motion around, went to one knee and pressed the plunger to his cheek. He pulled the trigger, and the explosive shell hit the approaching machine at the junction between shoulder and arm. The metal limb fell off, and the robot trembled, but moved on.” - Chapter 14, Han Solo and the Lost Legacy.
  • Various soundtrack additions and minor video edits to the Takodana battle from [Digmod]
  • Cut Han’s lines about seeing their son, Han now only says, “I saw him, he was here,” so we still aren’t 100% sure if Kylo is from Luke or Leia at this point.
  • Integrate Leia’s deleted scene with Kor Sella directly after Finn disembarks from the Falcon. More Leia is good at this point.
  • Remove Poe’s mention of Hosnian System destruction for continuity.
  • Place the interrogation of Rey directly after Leia’s “Tell me all you know”. There’s a lot of briefing in the Resistance base and I think Rey gets lost for too long in theatrical. This brings us back to Rey to remind us of her capture before they devise a plan to save her.
  • Cut Kylo Ren’s “You’re my guest,” line, so now he just coldly stares at Rey. Same justification as removing Kylo’s quip to Poe in in the earlier interrogation. We’re going for a menacing Kylo, not a weird one.
  • Preface interrogation with Rey fitfully dreaming of her recent vision of Luke and R2 as well as visions of the island and the interior of the Jedi tree. [NeverarGreat]
  • Used the Rey interrogation scenes from [Digmod] to preserve Kylo’s masked identity. Cut Rey’s reverse mind probe so now it only appears as though Kylo cannot penetrate her mind due to her force sensitivity. I didn’t feel like the storyline of him being afraid of not surpassing Vader goes anywhere in the trilogy. It’s never mentioned or shown as a part of his fears ever again, so in my opinion it becomes another unnecessary diminishing of Kylo’s presence. I also trimmed some of his dejected body language after the failed interrogation so he now seems more disappointed/frustrated than afraid.
  • Used the [Digmod] Kylo helmet and Snoke hologram edit for this second Snoke scene.
  • Place the scene with Chewie and the doctor right after the map scene.
  • Remove Leia’s lines which refer to Snoke by name, keeping the focus solely on the loss and potential redemption of Ben. At this point I don’t think there is any hiding Ben’s identity. I know the [Digmod] cut tries to preserve it until the walkway but I think it’s plainly obvious through Han and Leia’s conversation who Kylo is, even with his edits. This scene is impactful enough as a confirmation to the suspecting viewer.

Act 3:

  • Created a new transition from Han and Leia’s scene to Hux’s speech.
  • Move Hux’s speech to directly precede the Resistance Briefing scene. Made a custom cut of the [Digmod] & [NeverarGreat] Hux speech that combines their ideas. The important thing to know is that the weapon is charging at this point as it siphons the sun. When Hux shouts, “Fire!” it sounds almost like “Forward!” as all the stormtroopers turn around to watch the weapon charge. Or it could just mean “Fire the charging sequence”, either way I find it to work well.
  • Removed Han’s “There’s always a way to do that,” line after asking how to blow it up. Removed Leia’s following, “Han’s right,” line. Again, I strongly dislike this movie’s trend of constantly diminishing the threat of the enemy with purely nostalgic jabs.
  • Remove all comparisons of Starkiller to the Death Star to avoid the tired trope as much as possible.
  • Leia’s “…again. Our system is the next target,” is replaced with Snap asking if Leia has had word from the Republic, to which she answers, “No.” [NeverarGreat]
  • After the briefing and the Han/Leia farewell scenes, added Kylo watching Starkiller charging with an unused shot from Hux’s speech.
  • Re-organized the Starkiller infiltration.
  1. Rey escapes her cell
  2. Han and Finn discuss how the Force works
  3. There is an update on Starkiller charging which has been changed from 15 minutes to 50 [NeverarGreat]
  4. Rey runs through the halls
  5. Chewie blasts the trooper.
  6. Rey enters the hangar
  7. Phasma is captured and shuts off the shields
  8. Rey avoids the guards by hiding on the wall
  9. Kylo senses Han.
  • Split Rey’s escape attempt into two parts, with her sensing Kylo and panicking initially. Kylo then begins his return to her cell.
  • The Falcon landing is significantly shortened to feel more like a crash and less like Han intentionally hitting every tree in a forest. [NeverarGreat]
  • Completely removed Rey’s mind trick as the reason she escapes. She doesn’t even know what a mind trick is and has zero possibility of successfully executing one. Instead, Rey continues to sense Kylo approaching her cell. She then focuses all of her feeble force powers into her bindings in a panic… and SPRING! They fly open. Kylo walks in seconds too late.
  • Kylo’s rage has been trimmed to remove the stormtroopers running away joke, and his screams are faded through the transition.
  • Cut the Stormtrooper’s goofy, “Hey,” after opening the door to Chewie. Now he gets obliterated in an instant.
  • Finn’s over-the-top antics with Phasma are greatly reduced. He is not the laughing stock in my trilogy. He is a brave and loyal friend.
  • Cut the mention of a trash compactor and Finn’s way-too-into-it response. Enough with the ANH references, and cool it with janitor jokes already… I really want to take these new characters seriously but this movie does its darndest to avoid that.
  • Edited a new version of alarms yammering around Starkiller set to the villainous First Order theme, which sets off a chain of events ending with Hux launching waves of TIE’s to intercept the coming attack. [NeverarGreat]
  • Removed Poe’s lines reiterating how the sun draining works, in order to more quickly show the TIE interception.
  • Remove another Finn butt of the joke moment with his head nodding. Now ends with, “Why are you doing that?”
  • Insert deleted scene of Kylo on the Falcon, altered to include new music and sound effects indicating his happy memories on the ship. [NeverarGreat audio with Digmod video]
  • Move 3PO’s line ‘It would take a miracle to save us now!’ until later, and include unused lines from Poe indicating that they are switching focus to dealing with the TIE fighters before attempting another run on the Oscillator. [NeverarGreat]
  • Added a combination of the cue Finn’s Trek and Finn and Poe Reunited from the FYC Star Wars TFA soundtrack along with the Han and Leia cue to the Catwalk scene [Digmod]. I also recut some of this scene to keep the focus more on Han and Ben. Less reaction shots from others looking around.
  • Remove Chewie running for cover before detonating the explosives, implying that he is willing to sacrifice himself to prevent the weapon from firing. He roars as he detonates the explosives and Rey shouts “CHEWIE!” [NeverarGreat]
  • Move Leia’s reaction to Han’s death to right after the explosive detonation. It’s more impactful when the intense sequence of Han’s murder isn’t immediately cut away from. Leia’s reaction is important, but not right away.
  • Remove the cutaway to Hux being informed of the Starkiller’s imminent firing for continuity.
  • Place the Ackbar scene right after Poe exits the burning Oscillator, expositing that the Oscillator is still functional and the weapon will fire in two minutes.
  • Inserted shot of Kylo activating lightsaber from the trailer.
  • Added The Force Unleashed (Infiltrating the Junk Temple) during Finn and Kylo Ren’s duel [Digmod]
  • Removed Finn saying, “Come get it!” and then charging at Kylo. That seems counterintuitive to his words. Instead he just charges in, ignoring Kylo’s comment about the saber.
  • Rescored [Digmod audio] and re-cut the Finn v Kylo duel. Finn no longer lands a blow on Kylo’s arm. It’s possible he could sneak in this lucky shot, but it makes Kylo seem so much stronger if he doesn’t even get touched by a non-force user. Kylo absolutely eats Finn’s lunch in my edit. He toys with Finn, psyches himself up by pounding his gutshot, burns Finn’s shoulder, then blocks, spins, punches, and slices him open.
  • Rescored [Anjohan audio] and re-cut the Rey v Kylo duel. Rey does not win over Kylo Ren in the duel because this is the first time she has ever ignited a lightsaber and Kylo has been training for decades. There’s just no way she is standing up to that. Kylo now relentlessly pursues her through the ravine and she’s always on the backfoot, they lock sabers and Kylo offers to train her, Starkiller fires (coincidentally two minutes into this scene), destroying the Oscillator and breaking the ground apart between our combatants. Rey runs off in fear, the Hosnian system is destroyed, and Rey collapses beside an unconscious Finn with some previously unused Snoke lines playing in the background after the scene with Hux. This is all a custom cut combo of [Anjohan, Digmod, and NeverarGreat’s edits].
  • Kylo stumbles to the ground as the planet begins to explode and we do not see him after this. His scar is an occurrence offscreen in my trilogy, presumably during the completion of his training with Snoke (since in my trilogy there are a few weeks between episode 7 & 8).
  • Removed fighter pilot reaction shots from the Starkiller destruction and re-foley the scene for a more somber tone.
  • Cropped Chewie out of the shot with Leia after the battle so he doesn’t get dissed with the no hug.
  • After the shot of Chewie mourning for Han, there is an extended sequence of BB-8 returning to a comatose R2 in an effort to awaken him. Rey sees this attempt and the scene cuts to night at the base with R2 hooked up to a computer terminal which is helping search his backup data. As this happens, Rey has a dream/vision of waking up on Luke’s island and finding Luke himself. She holds out the lightsaber. R2 awakens and the map to Luke is revealed. [NeverarGreat] With the map and Rey’s vision, they will now spend a couple weeks travelling and looking for Luke, guided by some data and the force.
  • Remove the overly formal “my friend,” from Rey saying “Thank you, my friend”.
  • Remove the final journey to Luke’s island, which has already been partially seen in Rey’s dream. The final shot of the film is the Falcon jumping to Hyperspace, rescored with a cue from The Last Jedi. [NeverarGreat] The next film will open with Rey physically arriving on Ach-To.

If you have any ideas on how to make TFA feel more like Star Wars Legends please post your suggestions below. Once I have completed this film I will be moving onto TLJ. I hope to make a beloved trilogy for those who didn’t enjoy parts of the ST, or even those who adored it, but want a new take on it.

May the force be with you all.

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You explain the reasoning of your decisions really well! I also think framing the objective of your edits as a way to make the characters and universe more in-line with their depictions in Legends. Although obviously you’ll still make decisions based on personal preference (as you should), it also gives you an extensive framework to both guide your choices and justify your decisions. It definitely makes me interested in your project and eager to see what you come up with. I liked the ST for the most part, but I always enjoy new takes on these films!

To remove Han returning to the smuggler life, I’m assuming you’ll cut the Rathtar sequence?

I would be interested in hearing about other specific ideas you might have that maybe stand out from other edits. Are there big changes your still trying to figure out how to implement?

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RogueLeader said:

You explain the reasoning of your decisions really well! I also think framing the objective of your edits as a way to make the characters and universe more in-line with their depictions in Legends. Although obviously you’ll still make decisions based on personal preference (as you should), it also gives you an extensive framework to both guide your choices and justify your decisions. It definitely makes me interested in your project and eager to see what you come up with. I liked the ST for the most part, but I always enjoy new takes on these films!

Thank you, of course this is all simply my own interpretation of events and themes and there is no “right” answer. I will be editing according to my own understanding of the content and materials, but I do want to take the views of others into account as well.

To remove Han returning to the smuggler life, I’m assuming you’ll cut the Rathtar sequence?

At this point I’m not convinced that scene needs to be entirely cut, but it certainly does need key lines removed or re-organized. I have no problem with Han Solo returning back to smuggling as a general principle, the man needs to make a living somehow and I can’t imagine him doing anything else as a career outside the rebellion… My problem with the scene is in the portrayal of his smuggling career post-Kylo’s fall. They present him as a low-level swindler, unable to repay debts, not respected, and barely competent. The gang insults him with, “Your game is old” and various comments, all which lead the viewer to look at Han as a bit of a failure. They revert Han’s career back to that of Act 1 of Solo: A Star Wars Story rather than even Act 1 of ANH where at least he has the reputation to work for Jabba, let alone the place his reputation should be after decades of being a war hero. I want to maintain a stronger appearance of his character, one that still presents who he is deep down, both a smuggler and rebel rather than a washed up common criminal. Thinking perhaps I can make it more seem like the gangs that show up are there to collect a bounty on his head (and the droid/fugitives) rather than jumping him for failing yet another deal.

I would be interested in hearing about other specific ideas you might have that maybe stand out from other edits. Are there big changes your still trying to figure out how to implement?

Sure, I mentioned the edits I am using to shape my cut so I’ll go through a few of the features from each that I think work within my goals.

1. Digmod’s Heir to the Force (and FGR additions) | I definitely like his title better than The Force Awakens. However, due to my Legends inspiration I might adjust this to “Heirs of the Force” https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Young_Jedi_Knights:_Heirs_of_the_Force . I actually think the theatrical crawl works pretty well for what I am doing, but I am open to ideas on that since I will likely be editing the title, I might as well take a look at the whole crawl. I will mostly be using this edit as a base when it comes to toning down some of the humor, maintaining the Kylo identity and mask until later on, and some of his soundtrack adjustments that I appreciate. What I will not be including from this is his decision to leave the Starkiller base superweapon scenes in theatrical order, I think those work best in the “Restructured” format to move to the end of the film. The FGR additions are minor things like adding a brief flash of Vader to Rey’s vision and other minor adjustments like that. I’ll have it listed in my changelist once I build that up. Also ending the film with no Luke. I want each film in my trilogy to be focused on the legacy of an OT character. TFA is Han’s, TLJ is Luke’s, TRoS is Leia’s.

2. Anjohan’s edit | I really like his intro to the film by starting with the desolate Jakku landscape, and then moving into the Rey scenes before the attack on the Jakku village. I want TFA and TLJ to open with her, framing her as the representation of the Light side of the force, and Kylo as the Dark. The back and forth Yin Yang between the characters is key to my retelling of the ST and I need to show why ultimately both of them will fail to accomplish their initial goals (remember, balance of both dark and light is the theme I am trying to hammer through). I also like Anjoan’s cut of the forest fight that doesn’t show Rey defeating Kylo in battle, rather the planet separates to end the fight for them. I am planning on assuming TLJ takes place at least a few weeks after TFA so Kylo’s scars will be assumed to have happened off screen, potentially in the time where Snoke says he wants to “complete Kylo’s training”.

3. NeverarGreat’s workprint | This edit has some of my favorite TFA additions in it. Some of the visual and audible cues he places throughout the film really work in my opinion. I definitely like his take on the Starkiller base weapon and battle better than any others, and I love how he uses Rey to have visions of Luke on the island. This will explain the bigger time gap between Ep. 7 & 8 in my trilogy. Rey is largely looking for Luke from an incomplete map and her own visions/dreams which takes a little bit of time.

4. Personal edits from theatrical | I’m sure I will run across some minor edits in this area, but the main one I can think of that I haven’t seen before is dealing with Rey’s escape from her Starkiller base cell. I am not having her use a mind trick on the guard, as my original post explains that she doesn’t even know what that is. I am hoping I can find a way to cut this into a scene of her simply concentrating on her bindings and using the force to spring them open. I find that much more believable for a neophyte force user to achieve rather than using a very dominating mind trick.

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Acbagel said:

I am not having her use a mind trick on the guard, as my original post explains that she doesn’t even know what that is. I am hoping I can find a way to cut this into a scene of her simply concentrating on her bindings and using the force to spring them open. I find that much more believable for a neophyte force user to achieve rather than using a very dominating mind trick.

Let alone how to use it (properly).

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TestingOutTheTest said:

Acbagel said:

I am not having her use a mind trick on the guard, as my original post explains that she doesn’t even know what that is. I am hoping I can find a way to cut this into a scene of her simply concentrating on her bindings and using the force to spring them open. I find that much more believable for a neophyte force user to achieve rather than using a very dominating mind trick.

Let alone how to use it (properly).

Very true, from the Shadows of the Empire novel we see that, “This power required the complete concentration of the user. Worries such as whether or not it would work or allowing one to be distracted by the insight gained into the mind of the subject would cause the trick to fail.” If there’s any truly impossible feat Rey achieves in TFA, it would be this one.

Its improbability is followed closely by “using the force” to defeat Kylo Ren in a lightsaber duel. In Legends, anyone unfamiliar with a lightsaber was always shocked by how awkward the weapon felt and how it was nothing like anything they’d used before. Toning down Rey’s early force abilities also makes for a much better shock when Rey force pulls Luke’s saber to her hand. That should be the first time as a viewer we are shocked by her power, and that is a more impactful moment if it hasn’t been overshadowed by her flippant uses of the force earlier in the film.

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This sounds great…I’m a big fan of the EU (Legends) so color me interested.

I’m happy to check out any Workprints and give feedback.

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This sounds great…I’m a big fan of the EU (Legends) so color me interested.

I’m happy to check out any Workprints and give feedback.

I appreciate that, I’ll send it to you when I have a full workprint done. I’ve edited through the first 50 minutes of the film and got that into a place I’m happy with as a first draft. Tackling the Takodana sequence tomorrow.

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I’m completely in love with how all of this sounds, man
Have you thought about removing the superweapon aspect of Starkiller Base? I think it was RogueLeader the one who suggested to turn the mission into getting the the other half of the map to Skywalker, and rescuing Rey (But this would mean that the Republic isn’t destroyed in VII)
Anyway, I will watch how you structure your edit with great interest

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While I would love to see that removal come to fruition at some point, I think the super weapon aspect of the base is essential to his edit, since the ground splitting apart and separating Kylo and Rey still occurs in his edit.

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure DigiMod’s Heir to the Force removes that by creating a new shot.

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ELAYEM said:

I’m completely in love with how all of this sounds, man
Have you thought about removing the superweapon aspect of Starkiller Base? I think it was RogueLeader the one who suggested to turn the mission into getting the the other half of the map to Skywalker, and rescuing Rey (But this would mean that the Republic isn’t destroyed in VII)
Anyway, I will watch how you structure your edit with great interest

Thank you. While I do believe another Death star-like superweapon is a tired trope, unfortunately I do find it necessary to the bigger picture of the politics in the galaxy for Starkiller to destroy the New Republic. I have seen cuts that remove any mention of the superweapon and just frame Starkiller as the First Order base, but in my opinion they didn’t work as there isn’t enough dialogue to justify our heroes and the fleet going to Starkiller for any other reason. So while it’s not something I like as a storytelling device again, it’s also not something that I feel interferes with any of the themes from Legends that I want to be highlighted. I think the NeverarGreat structure of the superweapon sequence creates enough variables that it doesn’t feel as much of a copy of ANH.

I want my cuts to feel much darker than theatrical, so having the Resistance fail to stop Starkiller’s laser in the last battle is really an irreplaceable dark moment for our heroes, and also differentiates the movie from ANH.

I will be trimming the briefing scene to remove the jokes about other Death Stars and such. There are a lot of lines in this movie that are written to give the viewer a quick chuckle at the cost of lessening the seriousness of the events that are about to occur. I like humor in Star Wars, but I want it to contribute something to our characters personality rather than be a nostalgia plug for the audience to snort at for 2 seconds before moving on.

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Cut and uploaded a draft of Rey’s escape from her cell without using a mind trick. Not 100% complete in terms of sound effects and a few video frame adjustments, but I’m happy enough with the concept to continue on with the workprint and revise before release. I think this works so much better as this is the first time Rey is doing something intentionally with the force and she is shocked.

https://vimeo.com/498447945

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TestingOutTheTest said:

Where’s the extra footage of Rey’s hand moving from? Because that isn’t in the actual film.

It’s from the first scene of Rey in the binders (before Han crashes). I just tossed on a horizontal flip, some scaling, and a crop on there to make it look like the same hand that is freed from the cuffs.

Also, the backgrounds in 0:11 and 1:15 look out-of-place in comparison to the rest of the Rey scenes in the clip.

Could you expand on this? I’m not seeing what you mean. The background at 0:11 is just what is in the film. I didn’t change anything regarding backgrounds. Same at 1:15, that’s just how it is in the movie. It’s all from the same scene, just re-ordered and the backgrounds weren’t touched.

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Acbagel said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

Also, the backgrounds in 0:11 and 1:15 look out-of-place in comparison to the rest of the Rey scenes in the clip.

Could you expand on this? I’m not seeing what you mean. The background at 0:11 is just what is in the film. I didn’t change anything regarding backgrounds. Same at 1:15, that’s just how it is in the movie. It’s all from the same scene, just re-ordered and the backgrounds weren’t touched.

At 0:15 the shot is in a room with small bars in the background, the next shot we cut back to the blue-ish metal room Rey is in. Regarding 1:15, I meant to say 1:14 when the hand is moving, it’s in the same room with the small bars in the background.

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TestingOutTheTest said:

Acbagel said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

At 0:15 the shot is in a room with small bars in the background, the next shot we cut back to the blue-ish metal room Rey is in.

Hmm, it’s all the same room though. All those shots are from the same scene. I think from the different camera angles you’re just seeing the ceiling and thinking its a different room.

Regarding 1:15, I meant to say 1:14 when the hand is moving, it’s in the same room with the small bars in the background.

Same thing here. It is all the same room from the same scene. I think the background difference that’s throwing you off is just seeing the camera angle from below which shows some of the ceiling. Nothing here is changed from theatrical version in regards to what you’re saying.

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UPDATE: I have pretty much completed the workprint and plan on rendering a cut tomorrow. Let me know if anyone sees anything in the changelist that you think could be improved, otherwise I’d love your feedback on the draft if you choose to see it. PM me if interested.

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Jimmy Chips said:

I’d love a link to this when it’s ready!

PM sent!

Workprint is released.

I’d appreciate if you could post in this thread with a review. There are a few technical things to still work out that I’ll fix before the final release, but let me know if you notice anything else. Thanks, hope you enjoy!

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Could I please have a link?

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EDITS LIST:
CHOSEN ONE - A STAR WARS STORY (3-in-1 prequels). I - SHADOW OF THE PAST. II - KEEPERS OF THE PEACE. IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI.
PM me for links if interested.

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I loved every part of this! There were two bugs to fix: the opening crawl music starts a little late and Han’s you “hurt chewie you’ll deal with me” is duplicated. This edit has me excited what you can do with the rest. I really don’t like the others. Two editing things I’d have changed/fixed is to change the lightsaber noise when Darth Vader appears in the vision to match his and re-edit the Maz conversation because Rey says “what fight” when the line that triggered that one has been deleted. Other than that, amazing stuff from everyone involved in the clips/footage used! Can’t wait for more!

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Jimmy Chips said:

I loved every part of this! There were two bugs to fix: the opening crawl music starts a little late and Han’s you “hurt chewie you’ll deal with me” is duplicated. This edit has me excited what you can do with the rest. I really don’t like the others. Two editing things I’d have changed/fixed is to change the lightsaber noise when Darth Vader appears in the vision to match his and re-edit the Maz conversation because Rey says “what fight” when the line that triggered that one has been deleted. Other than that, amazing stuff from everyone involved in the clips/footage used! Can’t wait for more!

Thanks for the feedback! I’ve added a section in my OP to keep track of the fixes I need to make before final cut.

I haven’t sat down and watched my cut all the way through in one sitting yet. How did the narrative flow with this cut? Did it seem like the changes helped the character arcs?

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