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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A new holistic approach inspired by the Mandalorian [FOUR EPISODES RELEASED] — Page 26

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REORDERING?

Just wondering if it’s worth reordering these initial episodes in what I consider my season one, since a few have mentioned it.

(Bear in mind it’s only my season one from a production perspective, I don’t know if I’d end up presenting it that way.)

Remember, whether creating this for a familiar audience or the theoretical new one (likely coming from Mandalorian), the goal is to get viewers hooked with the promise of a good time to come. Early episodes should show the breadth of the show (its range of themes and how many suprises it has even if you know the plot of the prequels), the depth of the show (the emotional beats it can hit, and the nuance it can offer to familiar elements), and should convince us of quality. Our main character is Ahsoka, then Anakin and Obi-Wan, and our main villain is Ventress (only hinting at Maul). We need to demonstrate a good amount of value for fans of the Mandalorian too.

The six episodes in this (production) season, in their current order, are:

  • Christophsis - Ahsoka is introduced. Bro time for Anakin/Obi-Wan. Tactical Ventress. Pretty sure we have to start with this.
  • Death Watch - Obi-Wan gets great new depth. Mandalorians and the Darksaber. Anakin appears in the second half. Ahsoka and Ventress do not appear.
  • Cloak of Darkness - Ahsoka on her own. Competent Ventress. Not a great episode.
  • Malevolence - Ahsoka’s best character traits emerge. Ahsoka and Plo. Ahsoka and Anakin become bros. We learn that this show may make us care about clones.
  • Domino Squad - Clone heavy story. Feels a little later in the war. Competent Ventress, though her plan fails. Anakin and Obi-Wan appear in the last third. Ahsoka does not appear. Pretty sure this should come fifth, as it doesn’t follow our main characters so we really should make sure we’re invested first.
  • Nightsisters - Ventress is kicked out, lots of great Sith infighting. Anakin and Obi-Wan appear at some point. Pretty set on ending with this.

So I think our options are:

  1. Christo > Death Watch > Cloak > Malevolence > Domino > Nightsisters - Ahsoka’s sent off solo before Anakin really takes her on as his own. We get the Mando/Obi-Wan stuff before we get to really know Ahsoka. We learn that clones have feelings too then have another clone heavy episode.
  2. Christo > Death Watch > Malevolence > Cloak > Domino > Nightsisters - Ahsoka gets taken on by Anakin then trusted with a solo mission. We get the Mando/Obi-Wan stuff before we get to really know Ahsoka. We get a balance of clones in focus.
  3. Christo > Malevolence > Cloak > Death Watch > Domino > Nightsisters - Ahsoka gets taken on by Anakin then trusted with a solo mission. We get the great Mando/Obi-Wan stuff late. (Too late?) We learn to care for clones early. (Too early?)
  4. Christo > Cloak > Malevolence > Death Watch > Domino > Nightsisters - Ahsoka’s sent off solo before Anakin really takes her on as his own. We get the great Mando/Obi-Wan stuff late. (Too late?) We get a balance of clones in focus.
  5. Christo > Cloak > Death Watch > Malevolence > Domino > Nightsisters - Ahsoka’s sent off solo before Anakin really takes her on as his own. We get the great Mando/Obi-Wan stuff after two Ahsoka episodes - her intro then her solo mission. We learn that clones have feelings too then have another clone heavy episode.
  6. Christo > Malevolence > Death Watch > Cloak > Domino > Nightsisters - Ahsoka gets taken on by Anakin then trusted with a solo mission. We get the great Mando/Obi-Wan stuff after two Ahsoka episodes - her intro then her and Anakin becoming close. We learn to care for clones early. (Too early?)

Also, it’s worth bearing in mind the enjoyability of the edits I’ve produced. There are already better and worse ones. I wouldn’t want to put the less popular ones up front!

Really interested in people’s thoughts on this.

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his full sentence has beeps

I had no idea Plo Koon was so foul-mouthed. You know, there is a reason they call him Master Plo instead of Master Koo-

I think my vote would be for option 2. I’ve obviously already made my case for Malevolence coming before Cloak, but I also think that your edit of Malevolence is a little stronger than Cloak, so it has that going for it too. I’m still totally onboard with the very early Death Watch stuff though, especially since that’s a quality episode to hook people in.

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Friends, I’m about to suggest sacrilege, and you might need to pull me back from the edge.

I’ve been thinking about my approach to the Domino Squad arc. Domino Squad is one of the most popular arcs of the show. It has three episodes:

  • Clone Cadets, where Domino Squad fail, then fail again, then succeed.
  • Rookies, where some of them are killed on duty at a listening post.
  • ARC Troopers, where Domino Squad and Anakin and Obi Wan defend Kamino from Grievous and Ventress.

Smudger’s approach has long been the master here, for very good reason. He trims I think just the second training session (of three) from Clone Cadets, and about half of Rookies, leaving ARC Troopers almost entirely intact. And he’s totally right to do that - those are the strongest parts of each episode and his movie (plus some Christophsis, and some extra scenes from another episode to show Grievous drawing the Jedi away from Kamino) works really well. It’s one of the most popular Clone Wars edits, if not the most popular.

BUT

Like, where is the heart of this arc? I just watched ARC Troopers first (because often it helps to contextualise the whole based on the conclusion, if the conclusion lands well), and I agree with Smudger that almost 100% of ARC Troopers has to stay. There’s some good Grievous versus Obi-Wan, some good Anakin versus Ventress, Echo gets a nice highlight, Fives gets a nice highlight, Kamino is a dramatic location, and of course Ninety-Nine is the real emotional punch in the gut that makes this whole arc memorable.

But what sets that up best? Arguably, a little of Clone Cadets. Showing Echo and Fives before the assault, for sure. And definitely highlighting Ninety-Nine before they’re sent away. But Hevy (who has the closest relationship with Ninety-Nine) dies in Rookies (in nice heroic form, certainly), but doesn’t serve the show much beyond that. He exists to highlight the heroism of Ninety-Nine, really.

Let’s also account for the fact that Echo is important in the Bad Batch, and Fives is important in the Order 66 arc, so we should know them by name.

And while Echo, Fives, and the rest of Domino Squad are good characters, they’re not exactly deep characters. They’re not emotionally rich. They’ve got a small number of traits which make them distinct from most clones, but their personalities only differ from ‘the template’ by a small amount. I think it’s right that we should highlight them enough to remember their names, buuuuut

Do we really need to see much of them? Like, what if we started with a cold open, ‘at the beginning of the clone war’, and saw Domino Squad simply win their final challenge in Clone Cadets - without facing/overcoming adversity first - and then have Hevy thank Ninety-Nine for his support. And then ‘present day’-it straight into ARC Troopers.

What I’m saying is - if we maintain the whole Ninety-Nine emotional core, and the main character emotional core of the finale, and if we at least highlight Echo and Fives, do we need to show the challenges and growth of Domino Squad?

Part of the reason I think this might be more additive than subtractive is because, to be frank, some of the elements in Clone Cadets are a bit weird. Brick the bounty hunter dislikes Domino Squad enough that he assaults a clone and tries to force a reaction. At least three of the five in Domino Squad actively try to leave the squad. And we see them begin in an extremely sloppy way, but improve over only a couple of days into what Shaak Ti calls “possibly the best clone squad I’ve ever seen”, just because they learned team work and creativity? Are their various eccentricities really some perfect venn diagram that results in a really optimal team? And isn’t that mooted by the fact that we never see Domino Squad act as a squad again after ARC Troopers?

I don’t know, am I going mad here? I know nobody thought Rookies was too amazing, but is it heretical to think that the best bits of Clone Cadets are about three minutes near the end to set up ARC Troopers?

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Just finished watching the first (or second?) episode. I imagined having just watched the first part of the Microseries through Anakin being knighted. I really like the idea of bookending the show with that.

Opening with a Maul tease forces the audience to just accept that from the get-go, which probably is better than after getting discount Maul in the form of his twin brother or whatever first. The darksaber is there and lets me know it’s going to tie into what I learned from the Mandalorian.

I know most of the episode is from the 2008 movie, but I found it engaging and enjoyable this time, whatever you did with it. Felt like a solid intro to a new show. Ventress felt interesting to lead off which, having been introduced from the Microseries intro. My only thought is that it felt off for her and Obi-Wan to allude to past encounters, when I’ve only ever seen her and Anakin interact.

All in all, it was a good show! I’ll check out the next one another night.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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I’m gonna take a look to the Domino arc on Disney+ right away so I can think of better feedback. I think “Rookies” has to stay and not only because it’s my favorite season 1 episode, but mainly because: it makes for a good establishing character moment for Rex and Cody (Rex in particular being of great relevance for the Dominos’s future arcs), Grievous and Ventress are shown to be planning an attack on Kamino as depicted in the next episode, and Hevy’s death could really hit the beats as a typical end-of-act-two downer moment.

Clone Cadets could definitely be trimmed somewhat and serve as a cold open. I’d personally like if the first training scenes where they fail could be merged and have at least one moment where the drill instructor refers to them as a “bad batch”. Then you could only show 99’s pep talk to Hevy and the squad succeeding in their test.

If I recall correctly the Kamino invasion plans fail in Rookies, but then in ARC Troopers the Separatist proceed with it anyway. Maybe you could cut the moment where a Republic fleet forces Grievous to retreat earning a happy ending, and find some way to imply that, instead of giving up, the Separatists hasten their attack on Kamino.

There is one thing that could make merging the three episodes together feel a bit rushed, and it’s the fact Echo and Fives step up from sloppy cadets to exemplary graduates to 501st soldiers to ARC Troopers in the span of a single story.

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Just watched Cloak of Darkness. Brilliant reincorporation of the “Republic double agent” bit from the first episode! As far as the opening text goes, I agree with some above comments that it feels a bit early for Anakin to be “pawning Ahsoka off” onto Luminara. Especially since, the last time they were together, they seemed to be getting along. Perhaps it could say something like, “While Anakin Skywalker escorts the Duchess of Mandalore, his Padawan, Ahsoka Tano, has been assigned to assist Jedi Master Luminara Unduli in the blah blah blah”?

I also think the sound of the shuttle should be heard as it’s flying in the opening shot. Just some sort of sound effect to show that “The episode’s starting!!”

Really nitpicky, but some of the cringier lines could probably be trimmed a little bit more. For example, Ahsoka’s insistence on “Luminara has no idea what Ventress is capable of. NO. IDEA.” Maybe cut the second one, and tighten up the clip around it so that there’s no dead space? Or Ventress’s line about “Can you still use the Force if I sever your head?” This is just my opinion - no disrespect to anyone who likes those lines.

Maybe do a slower fade to black at the end.

A bit more serious, but I think it would be better to change the music credit in the end credits. Kevin Kiner composed the score, Samuel Kim just rearranged some of his pieces. It feels…I don’t know, inappropriate? Disrespectful? To give them equal billing when Kevin Kiner is the one who actually wrote the score. I would suggest putting simply “Score by Kevin Kiner,” and then on the next title card, “Original Star Wars themes by John Williams [skip a line] Additional arrangements by Samuel Kim”

Great job though! Can’t wait to watch the new releases!

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Hal 9000 said:

Just finished watching the first (or second?) episode.

Thqnks for checking it out, Hal. Its original source has 18% on Rotten Tomatoes so this episode was never going to be amazing, so I’ll settle for “good”!

Glad you (and others) feel like the Maul cold open works. As you say, I think it’s sensible to just tell the audience “this is happening, get used to it” early.

And yeah, it’s odd to have Ventress imply she knows Obi-Wan, but that’s in the original episode. The show does a fair amount of this, for example when Ahsoka and Padmé first meet they’re already close friends.

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Thoughts on Domino

Thanks Knight. I have to confess, I didn’t rewatch Rookies yet, so I might be skipping it too swiftly. It does have some good bits - mainly the infiltration of the commandos and the assault. Less so the worms, if I remember right.

I absolutely want to preserve the clones being referred to as “bad batchers” and “a bad batch” from Clone Cadets.

I think to solve the rushed feeling, I do intend to have title cards to split the episodes. “At the beginning of the Clone War”, “One month later”, and “Present day”, I think.

Maybe I should take a look at the whole arc in the editing deck, and pick out the key bits that way, then let that define the structure. I don’t think it’s going to be a tricky technical edit, just the removal of some scenes. There’s nothing complex to be done with this episode, it’s more about planning it right than executing the plan.

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mikereese971 said:

Just watched Cloak of Darkness.

Thanks Mike. Glad this works to recontextualise Ventress’ informant. But yeah, looks like Anakin pawning off Ahsoka hasn’t quite landed right, so I think I’ll do exactly as you say and make it just a normal and not uncommon reassignment for Ahsoka. I’ll allude to my Death Watch episode if I keep it there in the ordering, though I think I’m leaning toward Christo > Death Watch > Malevolence > Cloak right now.

Noted on the sound effect, and also, while I have trimmed some cringe lines, people are still getting frustrated with them, so I’ll see if I can take that further. There’s a scene with Argyus and Ahsoka that I think I remember thinking ‘I could remove this in full at a push’, so I’ll do another comb through.

Good shout on the score credit, thanks. I hadn’t realised that was the situation, but I’ll change that throughout.

I appreciate your eye!

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sade1212 said:
I think my vote would be for option 2. I’ve obviously already made my case for Malevolence coming before Cloak, but I also think that your edit of Malevolence is a little stronger than Cloak, so it has that going for it too. I’m still totally onboard with the very early Death Watch stuff though, especially since that’s a quality episode to hook people in.

totally agree, here

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Do we really need to see much of them? Like, what if we started with a cold open, ‘at the beginning of the clone war’, and saw Domino Squad simply win their final challenge in Clone Cadets - without facing/overcoming adversity first - and then have Hevy thank Ninety-Nine for his support. And then ‘present day’-it straight into ARC Troopers.

The problem i’ve with this is: they’re already a sidekick (the squad as a whole) in this show, if we jump right into there final exam, we wouldn’t be able to connect to the squad emotionally as we do if we see them fail twice (and kind of rooting for them) and therefore to the single members of it, later (fives, ninety-nine).

Although i can partially agree with that:

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Part of the reason I think this might be more additive than subtractive is because, to be frank, some of the elements in Clone Cadets are a bit weird. Brick the bounty hunter dislikes Domino Squad enough that he assaults a clone and tries to force a reaction. At least three of the five in Domino Squad actively try to leave the squad. And we see them begin in an extremely sloppy way, but improve over only a couple of days into what Shaak Ti calls “possibly the best clone squad I’ve ever seen”, just because they learned team work and creativity? Are their various eccentricities really some perfect venn diagram that results in a really optimal team? And isn’t that mooted by the fact that we never see Domino Squad act as a squad again after ARC Troopers?

Maybe you could cut something of it (perhaps brick the bounty hunter, „possibly the best clone squad…“) . I think especially beside their training and them in their quarters, we get some nice scenes were they’re more humanized (e.g. - forget the name of the disabled clone - if i’m not mistaken fives stood up for him?).
So a suggestion, if possible, would be to cut around the squad members that do appear again.

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After finishing work and sitting down to watch all four episodes, I have some notes I made throughout I’d like to share!

I am aware that many of these points will have been raised before, but I just wanted to throw out a whole bunch of random thoughts I had about the episodes.

OVERALL:

The use of the very ‘Burying the Dead’ sounding Samuel Kim music in the opening titles - Whilst this is fantastically fitting music that ends up actually working perfectly with the custom opening, I can’t help but think that the use of such a unique sounding piece made famous by it’s inclusion in the series’ final scene may actually take away from the beauty/specialness of that moment. I dunno, maybe it’s just me but I would much prefer to preserve that music for such an emotional climax to the show.

I also would strongly recommend that you use four fullstops at the end of the blue text. This will better match the ALTAIAGFFA text and the opening crawl texts in the saga films. 😉

I love the idea of occasionally including cold opens for some episodes, I hope you can end up pursuing this.

I wonder if anything can be done to better bleed the opening titles music into each of the first scenes. The music to music audio transitions of the opening scenes seemed to be a recurring issue.

THE NEW PADAWAN:

In the cold open when Pre Vizsla says the line “What are you?” There seems to be some remaining background noise layered into it. It was a little jarring on first watch.

It seemed odd to me that our first shot of space was an abrupt cut to mid laser-fire between ships. Is there a better way to bridge this with any additional shots?

Not an issue at all on your part, so no offence intended, but I really dislike the bizarre moment during the lightsaber battle when Asajj tricks Obi and Ani into falling through the floor. It just feels pointless and staged and serves almost zero purpose to the duel and her escape. The entire confrontation would be tightened and generally benefited by its exclusion. Again, just my opinion.

There was a very weird audio issue during the added Bail Organa message to Obi-Wan when the hologram voice effect disappears for a sentence or two. The same thing happens later when Obi-Wan is talking to Anakin, but this time it’s an inconsistent comlink voice effect. I would be more than happy to help fix this if I was provided with the right files.

There’s a rogue frame right after Obi-Wan says “The show is about to begin”

Right after Admiral Yularen speak to Yoda about taking a ship, the audio becomes very quite for a second, then the audio transition gets just a little messy.

The Bail thank you moment at the end still seems a just a bit too awkward, I understand this has been discussed, but the way it stands now may need some work. Also worth noting is that the way the shots are edited after he talks to Anakin make it clear that he’s not actually there with them.

THE DEATH WATCH:

After Anakin says “Sounds romantic” the door closes and strangely it makes no sound at all even though every other door does.

I have more but I’ll need to double check some things first.

CLOAK OF DARKNESS:

Unpopular opinion alert!
I strongly believe that this episode should just be excluded altogether, it has very, very few redeeming qualities and is just overall quite bland. It also seems to add very little to any character’s stories and seems like it would turn people aware from the show quickly since it’s been placed so close to the start.

MALEVOLENCE:

Rogue frame after the Kaminoan says “It is our only hope”

The last note the battle-droid makes whilst humming a tune is still heard. (I think???)

The cut after the medical droid on The Twilight talks is abrupt. It could use an extra shot sandwiched in to help the audio.

I think an actual error was made when you edited Plo Koon’s explanation of the weapon, he says “Leaving the target-” Then Ahsoka interrupts and says “I’m sorry” This didn’t seem intentional but more like an actual editing mistake. (I apologise if it wasn’t though)

Mixed up spatial audio when the fighters dock in the star destroyer right before the briefing. (I think???)

After somebody (Can’t remember who! 😄) says “Several medical transports…” there’s a rogue frame.

Missing spaceship engine audio when the Y-wings pass Obi Wan on the bridge.

Final thought:

Could any of these several audio issues be patched up using mixes taken directly from Smudger’s edits? I haven’t seen any of them yet so I wouldn’t know.

That’s all I have for now, but I have lots more input incoming! 😃 ❤️

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I’ve watched the first two episodes, and will try to watch the next two ASAP. I did have a few technical notes for episode 1 but Chade covered most of them, like the rogue frames and such. I will mention two things though:

During Yularen’s hologram convo with Yoda and Mace, the transition on Yularen’s face is weird. Did you reverse the shot at the end? I wonder if there is a better way to transition here. Could you possibly cut away after he says “Yes sir” in the wide shot? Do we really need that other information? Or maybe just hard cut straight into the battle.

I also noticed the whole Bail moment at the end as well. I wonder if that shot of Bail could be color-graded to better match the rest of the scene? And yeah, if a different effect could be used on that Anakin shot to slow it down, perhaps optical flow in Premiere, or maybe if could be played with in After Effects, could make the slow motion less noticeable. I understand why you’ve added this moment, though, since otherwise we get no resolution from Bail.

I don’t really have any notes for episode 2.

Anyway, just getting a taste of what you have so far gets me really excited about this project. The longer, more “focused” episodes makes the series feel more grand in scale, in terms of the overall narrative and how it fits into the Saga. I’m really digging it.

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RogueLeader said:

I also noticed the whole Bail moment at the end as well. I wonder if that shot of Bail could be color-graded to better match the rest of the scene? And yeah, if a different effect could be used on that Anakin shot to slow it down, perhaps optical flow in Premiere, or maybe if could be played with in After Effects, could make the slow motion less noticeable. I understand why you’ve added this moment, though, since otherwise we get no resolution from Bail.

The Bail moment is understandably, very tricky. I have no idea how to make it convincing though. On the subject, I wonder if any more content from Cat and Mouse is salvageable, I really like the whole Trench and Yularen subplot. He’s one of the few constantly threatening villains in Season 1 and 2 that is actually able to prove themselves. Plus, he does make a return later down the track. It would be nice to give him the proper setup. By the way, PM sent EddieDean!

Also RogueLeader, ‘Chade’ 😄

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All really, really useful notes, folks. It’s great having this much detail - even (and especially) when a few of you are saying the same thing. I’ll go back and polish all four episodes before I move onto Domino Squad. Due to the way my life is currently structured, I’ll probably always alternate ‘development weeks’ and ‘polish weeks’, because every other week I have a lot more time in the evenings and weekends. (Note that the audio transitions in and out of episodes are all janky because I haven’t put too much time into them yet, knowing they’re going to be replaced.)

Various thoughts from recent comments:

  • In Christophsis episode, do others agree with Chase’s objection to Viszla’s “Who are you?” It’s actually fairly clean - their headsets in that scene just have a lot of static. I think I prefer keeping it to losing it, but I can be swayed.
  • I’d be very interested to know how to add radio voice effect to dialogue, if anyone knows how to do that simply within Vegas Movie Studio or a free third party program.
  • Excluding Cloak of Darkness? Interested in opinions here. This episode is one which I initially favoured removing, until my focus was drawn to what it tells us about Ahsoka. I think it’s boring on a rewatch or when we know Ahsoka’s character, but I think for a new viewer it’s quite informative.
  • One thing that I’d really like to know when people review episodes, an important metric for me, is is this edit of the episode better than the source material? I don’t want to be wasting anyone’s time producing edits for edits’ sake. I want my episodes to justify their own existence. I can’t always turn the source into something great, or maybe even good - but I am always trying to make the better. If I fail at that, then I should simply be bookending the unedited episode.

Chase, I was a fan of Cat and Mouse, especially the Anakin vs Trench plot. Trench is fairly good value. (He’s not constantly threatening though - he ‘dies’ in Cat and Mouse and doesn’t come back till the Order 66 arc!) But I do like him. The main reason I trimmed this was (1) to get us to Ahsoka’s introduction sooner, and get us off Christophsis sooner, and (2) because I’m not a fan of the stealth ship this early in the show. I have considered a ‘Return to Christophsis’ episode where a traitor (a clone this time, from Hidden Enemy) has enabled the return of the blockade somehow, and Anakin can use a stealth ship to break it while Rex investigates the traitor.

(Though I’m also toying about either doing a ‘Lost Clones’ episode with Rex meeting the Deserter and Gregor in the Void. But that one might become a ‘Commander Rex’ episode, including the traitor on Christophsis as the third mini story.)

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Lol, yes, Chade. Short for Chase Adams, I guess!

I like the “Who are you?” line, but I might have to listen to it again.

When I try to give something a radio/phone effect, I usually use a high pass filter in Premiere. You might be able to achieve something similar through Audacity (which is free). Probably can find a YouTube tutorial.

Without having seen Cloak of Darkness, it sound like it would be good to at least inform the audience as to why Ahsoka wasn’t with Anakin and Obi-Wan in the previous episode.

Regardless if these episodes are better than the shorter format of the original episodes, it certainly isn’t wasting anyone’s time, because you’re basically abridging the series for people who would like the meat and bones of the series, and would prefer to cut all the fat. That’s sort of what you’re doing even if that isn’t the main goal of this project.
I will say that your episode 1 is definitely better than the movie!

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RogueLeader quoth:

Without having seen Cloak of Darkness, it sound like it would be good to at least inform the audience as to why Ahsoka wasn’t with Anakin and Obi-Wan in the previous episode.

On this point, for master/padawan, they do spend a suprising amount of time apart. Apparently it’s a thing that during the Clone Wars (at least), often Ahsoka wouldn’t go with Anakin on missions, or she’d be sent off on her own. And it’s never really explained in the show.

So I thought I might mention it right at the start, I guess to mitigate people asking “Isn’t this the Ahsoka show?” right at the start. But ultimately there’s going to be a fair amount of this, so I wasn’t planning to explain it every time.

It looks, in this case, like having Anakin palm her off on Luminara does more harm than good, and that up front it’s only really worth explaining that Ahsoka’s not going to be in the early Death Watch episode.

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Many people will be aware that the concept art used in the Mandalorian end credits is ‘brought to life’ ever so slightly with animated components.

I’ve been playing around with having this same style of effect feature in EddieDean’s TCW interpretation of the credits:

https://streamable.com/6awcej

What does everyone think of this quick test, does something similar to it have any potential for this edit?

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Holy shit, that’s amazing. I would absolutely love to include five of these per episode. Proper professional standard of beauty. I mean, if you fancy doing that 250-300 times, please be my guest 😉

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Great work, but as EddieDean said, you should be aware of the workload here😅

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EddieDean said:

Holy shit, that’s amazing. I mean, if you fancy doing that 250-300 times, please be my guest 😉

If I was going to commit to doing that many, I would definitely make each of them way more subtle than that.

Speaking of which, I have several other ideas on how to polish up those credits a lot more. But I’ll take another good look at them again and get back to you on that. 👍

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Chase Adams said:

I have several other ideas on how to polish up those credits a lot more.

Please absolutely do! This is fantastic.

Yeah, I’ve just checked over Mando’s credits and they all vary in subtlety. Sometimes it’s just a bit of false 3D via parralax, sometimes it’s just a floating object, sometimes it’s a waterdrop effect over water, sometimes it’s more radical like this. But always different, so there’d be a lot of artistic license! If you get the bug and want to commit to this, please let me know, because there’s great value in them.

(Or if anyone else has similar skills and fancies chunking up the work, be my guest. There’s certainly a lot that could help if people wanted to get their teeth stuck into this.)

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Sorry for the double post, but an issue I had with mostly the Death Watch episode was that you started getting a little desperate and used individual model art of things and people that still had text on them. 😉 I would recommend only sticking to full depictions of stills from the episodes similarly to what The Mandalorian does. Keep in mind that not every line of text will need its own piece of art, you could probably fade 2-3 names in and out on each and it would save you a lot.

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Chase Adams said:

Sorry for the double post, but an issue I had with mostly the Death Watch episode was that you started getting a little desperate and used individual model art of things and people that still had text on them. 😉 I would recommend only sticking to full depictions of stills from the episodes similarly to what The Mandalorian does. Keep in mind that not every line of text will need its own piece of art, you could probably fade 2-3 names in and out on each and it would save you a lot.

Yep, that episode now represents the older way of doing it. Now, I’d rather always use scenes from the episode, and only five shots with multiple credits fading over each. In the case of Death Watch, It’ll be the three scenes plus the two vehicles, unless I can find alternate sources. I don’t mind slowing my pipeline a little to go on concept art hunts, if people think there’s good value there.