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The views are a lie.  And I'm not joking, I've seen massive view jumps on my threads in no time, with no real explanation.

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The site ran awful slow the past weekend.  Perhaps there was some kind of bot crawl going on?

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Is that where a bunch of bots go from one pub to another, drinking as they go?

If so, sign me up.

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Here are 10 frames from the flyover.

2 different LPP's prints were spliced together for this scene.

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Here are the 3.2k x 2.4k original frames:

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No color correction, or cleanup was done on these samples.

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Feallan said:

I thought your scanner was only 2K, 2048×1556. Have you upgraded it?

 We had used a Digital camera originally (which actually could do up to 8k pictures). Since then we've upgraded all our equipment for video captures, sound processing and stills.

The higher resolutions are for future proofing. However,  most of the work will be done at 2k because it's easier to process, takes up less space, and is a standard that can be made into 1080p, which is the final resolution.

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That's more than understandable, and still better than what good old George gave us.  

Thank you for posting higher-quality screens, this shot looks wonderful even in stills.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Looks very yellow and brown is it supposed to look like that?

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Looks very yellow and brown is it supposed to look like that?

 Thanks for all the comments people. Appreciate it.

The flyover is unique to this print, and has a few issues that we will highlight.

There were actually 2 different LPP prints that were spliced together for it, that are different from the actual LPP one.

If you watch the trailer for this project, you will see the transition for it. We'll repost just that segment for inspection.

The rest of the LPP has a different blue-ish cast to it, but the core colors are all their.

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These look great!  Thanks for sharing, I love looking at these, please keep them coming! :)

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Why it looks yellow: From what I've seen, LPP print stock generally has a yellow or yellow-green bias. In fact, sometimes projected LPP looks a little similar to modern teal/orange-pushed transfers, except with a wider color gamut (e.g., blues are actually blue, and Caucasian cast members don't look like Jersey Shore rejects).

People criticize some of Warner's transfers, but the Lethal Weapon remaster actually bears a resemblance to an original release print I saw back in December.

I wish the whole print came from the same source as the crawl/flyover. I wonder why it looks like that? My theory is that since LPP was introduced in 1982, and the English crawl on the print is spliced in from a separate, non-LPP Kodak, English-language, Dolby Stereo copy (possibly by a previous collector?), the unaltered print may have had the Spanish-language crawl edited onto a separate Episode IV print. (The foreign crawls were never refilmed with the episode number, so until the video-generated crawls in the 90s, they were still in their original 1977 state.)

Since this is the Latin American dub, maybe this print was for Spanish-language theaters in the U.S. - perhaps since there would have been comparatively fewer prints, Fox found it easier to just print the Spanish crawl separately and splice it onto English prints? (Have you ever checked the leaders of reels 2-6 for clues as to the origin of the print?)

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Here's a slowed down version of the part of the flyover where it switches between the two LPP prints.

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6YQoVRaNMDmEo5t2SK

(That was from the trailer posted for the project in post #1)

Here is an overview of part of the flyover, compared with 2 special edition versions and the original DVD.

You can see the blueish cast in the latter part of the clip.

NOTE: Some frames at the end are slightly out of sync.

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6CaV2gGh0pX7K5t2Vp

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TServo2049 said:

I wish the whole print came from the same source as the crawl/flyover. I wonder why it looks like that?

Wasn't the theory that the Spanish print was blue-tinted because it was intended for a television transfer, or something like that? I can't recall.

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Even with the blue cast, I'm skeptical about that theory. I just cannot see a Latin American TV station doing an in-camera pan-and-scan job on a 35mm print. I doubt that the majority of them even had 35mm film-to-tape equipment - from what I can gather, they would receive film material on 16mm well into the 80s.

If they were running from film and not from video, I'm almost positive that Central and South American stations would have received flat 16mm prints (the kind that used to be shown on airlines - the ITV broadcast seems to have been a flat print, judging by the presence of jump cuts in place of pans). And since Star Wars was not running on TV until the 80s, they may well have just received a copy of the official video transfer on tape, but with the Spanish dub.

-1, did you take pictures of the leaders when you still had the print? Did the prints still have those paper rings with the distributor, reel number, etc. on them?

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You will have to ask none for all the Leaders and edge codes for the film. He has them documented. -1 left the team a long time ago I was told. Other members have picked up the project since then.

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The irony of "Team Negative1" minus Negative1.

*foge*

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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He's like the man on the run who tries to drop off the grid and make himself disappear, but he keeps using his credit card.  Okay, maybe he really hasn't been here since November, but we've heard this "-1 doesn't live here anymore" spiel before.

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Maybe actually -1 is traveling around the world procuring Star Wars prints using whatever means necessary, and the rest of the team is there to scan them and cover it all up.

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Maybe -1 is actually George Lucas discretely atoning for his sins. Would explain the posting style

-George said:

it is a period of civil war

rebel spaceships striking

from a hidden base have

won their first victory

against the evil galactic

empire

later

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And the nonsense begins again ............... 

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At this point I'm done caring, let -1 be mysterious if he wants / is in fact still involved.  No business of mine whether he chooses to keep a low profile or not, however strange it may seem.  We're being given proof that we're not just getting taken for a ride here, and that's good enough

later

-bkev

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