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schorman's HDTV Star Wars Saga Preservation — Page 9

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Broom Kid said:

Apologies if I missed it, but I keep seeing references to low and high bitrate versions of this amazing (and exhaustive) project but no specifications as to what the bitrates are?

How ‘low’ is the “Low bitrate” version? Are the “low bitrate” versions in the 8-10 gigs per film range?

Yes, the low bitrate versions are between 7.5 to 10 Mbps on average. I actually encoded using constant quality mode with x264, which gave about 10 Mbps for TPM, and around 7.5 to 8.5 Mbps for the other 5 films.

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Are the black bars supposed to have occasional credits during the crawl? (AotC, low bitrate).

Edit-Excellent encode and love the subs. Just wasn’t sure if that was on one or multiple HDTV Sources. I don’t remember it being on the DVD but it’s been a long time.

Preferred Saga:
PT: Hal9000
4/5: Adywan
6: NSP
7/8: Hal9000

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Are you talking about the DVD Commentary Subs? Those are forced subtitles that are meant to be used with the DVD Audio Commentary track. They just show who is talking at each point in the commentary. They are present on the DVDs.

I also included full English and Spanish subtitles for the actual commentary as well. The English Commentary subs were on the British versions of the DVDs, but not on the R1 American releases.

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I don’t plan on downloading the low-bitrate copies myself, but did you flag the commentary speaker subs as “forced”? That means the player will always turn them on automatically no matter what audio track is selected. The “forced” and “default” flags should both be set to “off” so the viewer can select them manually when changing to the commentary track.

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Yeah, that’s probably it. For what it’s worth, VLC doesn’t behave like that. I’m only able to reproduce this when playing with MPV. It seems like MPV ignores the “Track Enabled” flag.

MPV will enable the Forced Commentary subtitles by default on all six films with the low bitrate versions, as well as on Empire and Revenge of the Sith on the Full bitrate versions.

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Can someone explain to me what bitrate means? Are they of lower quality?

TPM ROTJ ESB TFA TLJ TROS ROTS ANH SOLO RO ATOC

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dgraham414 said:

Can someone explain to me what bitrate means? Are they of lower quality?

Overall, yes. Lower file size, lower quality. But that doesn’t mean bad quality - if you take care when encoding (which I’m sure Schorman has done), it will still look excellent.

The “full bitrate” versions are equivalent to Blu-Ray releases, and are 30-40GB (like Blu-Rays). The “low bitrate” versions are more equivalent to, say, iTunes/Amazon digital download or Netflix/Hulu streaming.

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Alright, thanks 😃

For the record, I was running into it in MX Player for Android. Hardly an issue to switch it, just at first glance thought it could be a part of one of the HDTV Broadcast rips.

Preferred Saga:
PT: Hal9000
4/5: Adywan
6: NSP
7/8: Hal9000

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Since this is mainly based on a german source I would like to ask if there is a german version availble of this (i.e. german crawl, subtitles etc.) like there is for the Despecilized Edition?
I ask this because from what I read this then might be the best available version of the Prequels without the awful 2011 changes (cgi Yoda in Episode I, wrong order of shots in Episode II mainly) to go with the german Despecialized Edition of the OT.

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Would you consider updating the theatrical reconstruction of ROTS using these new 2.0 HDTV sources?

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Yes, I’ll be getting to that in the new year. I’m going to do a new audio rip of the theatrical mix using an actual DTS-6AD cinema processor for decoding the audio. It will take some time before I can get it done.

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schorman13 said:

Yes, I’ll be getting to that in the new year. I’m going to do a new audio rip of the theatrical mix using an actual DTS-6AD cinema processor for decoding the audio. It will take some time before I can get it done.

That’s great news! Take your time, it sounds like a lot of work haha!

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Hey, sorry, don’t mean to bother you but I noticed in your original post that you said you would eventually create BD menus for an iso. Did you ever get around to this as I can’t find it on the spleen. Thanks!
-Dylan

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Pickle2503 said:

Hey, sorry, don’t mean to bother you but I noticed in your original post that you said you would eventually create BD menus for an iso. Did you ever get around to this as I can’t find it on the spleen. Thanks!
-Dylan

Nope, sorry. I was never able to get around to it. I don’t really use discs anymore, so I’m not really bothered about making it happen.

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schorman13 said:

Pickle2503 said:

Hey, sorry, don’t mean to bother you but I noticed in your original post that you said you would eventually create BD menus for an iso. Did you ever get around to this as I can’t find it on the spleen. Thanks!
-Dylan

Nope, sorry. I was never able to get around to it. I don’t really use discs anymore, so I’m not really bothered about making it happen.

Ok no worries! I’m trying to mux the 3 videos to a single blu Ray iso and have them play in order (1-ot.com logo; 2-thx logo; 3-feature film) and I’ve had no luck 😦. Any way anybody would be able to help me? Help would be much appreciated!! Thanks!

I Don’t Even Like Pickles?

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I don’t have the small bitrate versions, but if those don’t have black bars (aka, the video stream isn’t a full 1920x1080 or 1280x720), you can’t burn them to Blu-Ray since the spec requires full 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

If you’re using the full bitrate versions, that would be too large file size wise to fit on a BD50.

a trolling bantha

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No I’m doing one disc per movie and I’m using the full bitrate versions, I’m just trying to mux it into an iso in a way that when I pop the disc into my player, the original trilogy logo plays first, then the thx logo, then the actual movie. The file size of all 3 videos are well under 50 gigs (I think the ot logo video and the thx video are each under a gig, and the actual full bitrate version on the movie varies from 30ish to 40 gigs). I’m just trying to mux it in a way where each video plays one after the other that way I can have my logos, and then the movie start.

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Ah, okay, I misunderstood what you were trying to do. I don’t do much disc burning these days so I’m not sure of the best way to go about doing that. Hopefully someone else can chime in.

a trolling bantha

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ChainsawAsh said:

Ah, okay, I misunderstood what you were trying to do. I don’t do much disc burning these days so I’m not sure of the best way to go about doing that. Hopefully someone else can chime in.

Ah gotcha, well thanks anyways!

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One more thing, and forgive me if this is kinda a stupid question, but these are dvd preservations right? They should be exactly the same, aside from the bump in resolution? And is the color grade the same? Thanks!
-Dylan

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Yes to all of those questions. They’re the same masters that were used for the DVDs.

a trolling bantha

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ChainsawAsh said:

Yes to all of those questions. They’re the same masters that were used for the DVDs.

Great thank you!

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Update for 2020:

I have discovered that there was a small (1 frame) sync issue with a single repeated frame in the version of Phantom Menace that I posted. I’ve also made some improvements with the theatrical subtitle timings as well. Additionally, I found that there is a frame error in the DVD/HDTV master where there is a single missing frame, and one other duplicate frame.

I’ve fixed those issues and have updated the encode of TPM. Anyone with the Resilio key posted on thestarwarstrilogy forums will have their folder updated with the newer encode. It’s also available in the google drive folder that has been previously shared. Just redownload from the same links, if you’re interested.

I had also found some pretty major encoding errors with the lower bitrate version of Revenge of the Sith. I’ve done new encodes of both TPM and ROTS and have updated those for the lower bitrate versions. Again, they’re available in the same Resilio folder or google drive links that have been shared previously.

I should be able to update torrents on Myspleen later this evening.

😃 Enjoy

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