project in danger of being scrapped!

well i have made several attempts to get some advice on ot.com and had no help with my problems. so before i give up fanediting all together i will try one more time.i have been working hard on my project for a few weeks and i keep hitting the brick wall. first i will say that the project is kill bill the whole bloody affair. i have several expectations i would like to meet. first off i want to author the final cut in dvd architect. second i want great video quality. third i want ac3 5.1 audio. and fourth i want the subs hardcoded into the video.i made my first attempt in womble. the edit turned out descent. but then i found out that dvd architect would not take the ac3 5.1 audio after rendering out of womble. i had encoded the video source for womble in order to have the subs hardcoded. everything worked pretty good up until i tryed to rendor my dvd. the video quality had gone way down to fit a dl disc and i lost the voices from the audio.so i have been researching and found that the audio must be rendered in vegas to work with dvd architect. so i figured why not go ahead and take the plunge and do the whole edit in vegas. well this is not working out either. first off the only way to get the subs in is to manually type each subtitle and sync them all visually. really? that is stupid that vegas does not support .sub or .srt second when i added my first source kill bill uncut. and played it in the preview window the audio is way out of sync. i dont know if it will be after rendering because this is my first time using vegas. so far i am not liking vegas at all. is there another alternative software for windows that i could use to accomplish my goal? cause vegas just is not user friendly at all. so many problems before i even attempted to make a video cut. i know there is an adobe video editing software but cant remember what it is called and does it support ac3 5.1 or .dts and can it use sub or srt files? real question is how would you more experienced editors do this thing? womble is not gonna cut it and vegas seems too buggy. please respond guys i really want to do this. and i already have two more fanedits planned if i can just get this one running.

all day i worked at this. i have gotten to the point of creating 6 mono wav files and put them in vegas for vol 1 i then output an ac3 file just in case i need it. so now i have been trying to find a way to use the subs. it seems subs cant be directly hardcoded to vob.  with ripbot i can hardcode the subs but only to an mp4 or mkv container. vegas does not read mkv. so is this my only choice to encode the video to mp4 with the subs and no audio? and then place the mp4 into vegas along with my wav files and edit from there? i tried this already and the mp4 in vegas preview box was pixelated and choppy. i would think it would be time consuming to try and custom make a softsub file for this edit because every sub would have to be synced to the finished edit. i am at a loss here. 17 people have viewed this thread today and no one has any suggestions? i have been up and down every how to i can find about these problems and can not find a solution to hard code subs into the source video. i see in vegas you can add text but how does that work? i have to manually type all the subs and sync them visually? if i have to transcode the source to get the subs in what container will work good with vegas? because mp4 does not seem to do well.this is all a little much for my brain to handle. i am ambitious but this is nuts. there has to be a better way to get the subs into the video pre vegas editing.

I'm not sure exactly what you want to do with the subs, just hardcode them?

You can do this with VobSub and VirtualDub or AviSynth -- look here for example (much more can be found by googling):

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/304260

There are probably some settings in vobsub for tweaking the look of the subs.

For editing I'd ALWAYS render my video (now with subtitles) out in either huffyuv or lagarith lossless codecs -- they take up more space but it's much more fast and accurate than working with some compressed mpeg4/h264 stream. And no quality loss of course.

If space is an issue, there are other options like DV codecs but I don't much about that, or editing the vobs/mpeg2 directly in womble, it should only re-render changed parts, but don't know much about that either.

ayy santika i really appreciate the link and the help.. ash dude bro man that is quite possibly the rudest comment i have ever received in a video enthusiast forum. if you didnt like the way my topic rolled you didnt have to post. forgive me for thinking a fanediting forum would have members who know something about fanediting. and i guess my big mistake was posting a video editing question in the "how to and technical discussion,s" thread. troll. everyone i was stressed out when i posted this and i will admit i was impatient. sorry for the rant however rudeness does not solve anything. as for the work its progressing somewhat and i am not giving up due to lack of tech advice. i will keep updating as i go but i think i will refrain from posting questions on ot.com wouldnt want to upset the trolls.

yeah i should have called it project i danger of attracting trolls.

i was under the impression that this thread was here to get help not be ridiculed but i can see now i was mistaken. i was not rude in my post in any way but if thats how you guys see it you,re entitled to you,re opinion. as i said i wont make the mistake of coming here for advice any more. as it has been a complete waste of my time.

oh god forbid i typo,ed something on a forum full of nerds. geek police we have a situation this guy misspelled something we need backup. all cars proceed to troll this poor basterds thread and poke fun at him......

yeah ill click on that!

i fail because i did not click on you,re virus link? ok dude you expect me to to click on a link posted by a guy who is talking smack to me.  "but i have tried out dvd architect yet" hmm i think you meant HAVE NOT TRIED OUT DVD ARCHITECT YET. could this be a typo? maybe but i will poke fun at him anyway. game over.

Ah, I see you located the Shift key.

ibleedspeed, at the risk of stating the obvious, if you're still interested in getting help with your fan edit, it might be a good idea to stop fighting with the very people from whom you're seeking advice.

i will tell you what failed is this how to technical discussion,s thread. i see a whole lot of no technical discussing going on. i came asking questions and was met with rude comments and childish remarks. is that all you got? or is there actually any one here that knows what they are talking about? what fanedit,s have you guys completed anyway? i am not seeing you,re names listed on any of the posted fanedit,s so until you smack talkers have some more credit i would keep your opinion,s hidden like your nudey mag collection under your bunkbeds.

ibleedspeed said:

so until you smack talkers have some more credit i would keep your opinion,s hidden like your nudey mag collection under your bunkbeds.

Ha!  Shows what you know... I keep mine in my sock drawer.

i read all the forum rules when i joined. it clearly stated that stupidity and rudeness wont be tolerated but i guess it,s ok  for senior members to gang attack the noobs right. no worries guys i dont want to argue any more. it seems  a waste of thread space. if anyone had bothered to address the real issue which is that i did not strike the first blow in this battle of the dimwhits. i am just one of the dimwhits.  all i am saying is chainsawash did not have to post his rude opinion like that. i don,t want advice from anyone who would try and bash up some guys thread because he did not understand a few things. i sure as hell don,t ever attack some ones typo,s because its a keyboard and sometimes you miss a key or forget a whole word every one does. enough already truce.