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new book on a new hope coming in september

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It's called the making of Star wars episode IV: a new hope by jonathan rinzler.

my question is will it be more of mr. lucas revisionist history and not what actually happened with the original making of the film.

Back in the day they were supposed to release a book called the making of star wars written by Charles (Charlie) Lippincott and being the book collector i am i've found out that it never was released even though you can find it's isbn on amazon. I would rather see this published because he was there from the get go as the publicist, and was on the set as a spectator. Plus he was an avid flash gordon fan and really loved this movie because it brought back the nostalgia of a more innocent and fun time.

Just like the old documentaries were good honest making of specials not propaganda like empire of dreams although is has some nice tidbits.

I would like to read a book on star wars written by Gary Kurtz or empire by Irvin Kershner because at least they are honest in there account of how it came to be made.

Star wars went down hill on jedi because of the fact of the hiring of Kazanjian a yes man if there ever was one and a precurser to rick mcallum.

Yes people butted heads on the making of empire and it cost more money than star wars but that makes it a far better film. Kersh must have been so sick of it that's why he turned down jedi and this was before lucas left the dga.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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For a second there, I thought you were refering to the Another Hope book thing.
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
It's called the making of Star wars episode IV: a new hope by jonathan rinzler.

my question is will it be more of mr. lucas revisionist history and not what actually happened with the original making of the film.

Back in the day they were supposed to release a book called the making of star wars written by Charles (Charlie) Lippincott and being the book collector i am i've found out that it never was released even though you can find it's isbn on amazon. I would rather see this published because he was there from the get go as the publicist, and was on the set as a spectator. Plus he was an avid flash gordon fan and really loved this movie because it brought back the nostalgia of a more innocent and fun time.

Just like the old documentaries were good honest making of specials not propaganda like empire of dreams although is has some nice tidbits.

I would like to read a book on star wars written by Gary Kurtz or empire by Irvin Kershner because at least they are honest in there account of how it came to be made.

Star wars went down hill on jedi because of the fact of the hiring of Kazanjian a yes man if there ever was one and a precurser to rick mcallum.

Yes people butted heads on the making of empire and it cost more money than star wars but that makes it a far better film. Kersh must have been so sick of it that's why he turned down jedi and this was before lucas left the dga.


Have you read "Empire Building-The Remarkable Real Life Story of Star Wars" by Garry Jenkins? It's very interesting- some rare/unpublished photos in it, as well. It's definitely NOT George Lucas' version of history.

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Rinzler wrote the making of ROTS book so expect the authorized version of history.
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005

Yes people butted heads on the making of empire and it cost more money than star wars but that makes it a far better film. Kersh must have been so sick of it that's why he turned down jedi and this was before lucas left the dga.


I read that Kershner offered to direct Jedi but Lucas disaproved of Kershner handling of the budget for Empire and thus declined?

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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What I heard is that Kershner not working on ROTJ was a mutual decision because Lucas wanted more control over the movies, and Kershner was displeased with the lack of freedom as a director on Empire.

And yes, I also heard Lucas was irritated with Kershner going over-budget.

Where is that quote where Lucas says something like, Kershner went in a different direction than I wanted, or that he ruined his movie. It's not really a well-known quote, but I remember it...
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Didn't it all also have something to do with the Director's Guild? And there are parts of ROTJ, particularly during the Luke/Vader duel, that look remarkably Kersneresque. It a remarkable coincide, I'm sure, that Lucas had the least amount of input on Empire and it is the best of the sextet. Totally coincidental, I'm sure.

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On the Empire of Dreams documentary I think they said that because Lucas refused to put the credits at the front of the movie, he got fined by the guild. So he left and had to find someone who wasn't in the guild to direct ROTJ.
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005

It's called the making of Star wars episode IV: a new hope by jonathan rinzler.

I can't imagine an entire book being written about them shooting a new opening crawl to be that interesting. I'd be much more interested in the making of Star Wars.

Neil

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Originally posted by: Davis
What I heard is that Kershner not working on ROTJ was a mutual decision because Lucas wanted more control over the movies, and Kershner was displeased with the lack of freedom as a director on Empire.

And yes, I also heard Lucas was irritated with Kershner going over-budget.

Where is that quote where Lucas says something like, Kershner went in a different direction than I wanted, or that he ruined his movie. It's not really a well-known quote, but I remember it...

There's an entire chapter about ESB in "Empire Building" called "You're ruining my movie!" LOL

Supposedly, GL wanted Spielberg to direct Jedi, but because of the problems with the American director's guild, he had to find someone who wasn't a member, so he went with a Welshman - Richard Marquand.

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The rumor that Lucas squashed publication of Peter Mayhew's book about his experiences making the OT isn't encouraging. On a related note, how much interest would there be in scanning the entire "Once Upon a Galaxy:The Making of ESB" paperback? It's been out of print at least two decades, and Lucas says enough contradictory things in the interviews to want to keep it that way.

Where were you in '77?

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Where'd you read about a forthcoming Mayhew book being squashed? I could understand LFL not authorizing the book but they've got limited ability to squash the work completely. But Mayhew's got little work elsewhere if he pisses off the Ranch.

Anyone heard any more about the Carrie Fisher tell all? ew.com
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It was mostly speculation on message boards in the late 90's when the book simply never came out. Allegedly Lucas didn't like Mayhew talking to the guy who wrote that unauthorized bio. Amazon UK still has a listing for it.

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Supposedly, GL wanted Spielberg to direct Jedi


Can you image how awesome that would have been?

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Originally posted by: Mike O
Supposedly, GL wanted Spielberg to direct Jedi


Can you image how awesome that would have been?

I'm sure it would have been great, but I'm one of those people who happens to love Jedi the way it is (the 1983 version, that is). I know a lot of people don't care for it, but I've never had any complaints about it.

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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O
Supposedly, GL wanted Spielberg to direct Jedi


Can you image how awesome that would have been?

I'm sure it would have been great, but I'm one of those people who happens to love Jedi the way it is (the 1983 version, that is). I know a lot of people don't care for it, but I've never had any complaints about it.


All right, that makes two of us!

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I like RotJ fine, mostly. Having Steven S. direct it would have been great, though . . .

I don't like everything he does but there's no doubt he's a fine director who really knows his stuff.

Question: if Lucarse couldn't have Steven S. direct Jedi, how did he keep having him for the other Indy flicks? Because those still have the credits in the beginning? Sheesh, I've never understood why the credits thing is such a big deal, anyway. Who wants to read a bunch of stupid names while the movie's starting? Save it all for the end, when it's just music and no picture. lol


I'd sure like to read a book about the making of SW that didn't have any official Lucarse propaganda. That would be really interesting.
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Originally posted by: hairy_hen
I like RotJ fine, mostly. Having Steven S. direct it would have been great, though . . .

I don't like everything he does but there's no doubt he's a fine director who really knows his stuff.

Question: if Lucarse couldn't have Steven S. direct Jedi, how did he keep having him for the other Indy flicks? Because those still have the credits in the beginning? Sheesh, I've never understood why the credits thing is such a big deal, anyway. Who wants to read a bunch of stupid names while the movie's starting? Save it all for the end, when it's just music and no picture. lol


I'd sure like to read a book about the making of SW that didn't have any official Lucarse propaganda. That would be really interesting.


Perhaps in some ways Lucas got angy at Hollywood and took things out on his fans. Spielberg seems to inspire a great deal of debate on both sides of the chasm, both from those who think that he is an overrated, sentimental, manipulative, and overhyped hack, and those like myself who love his unrivaled skills at crafting set pieces, manipulating audiences, creating sheer cinema. Love him or hate him, he's certainly influential and even his weakest films are superbly crafted.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

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Originally posted by: hairy_hen
I like RotJ fine, mostly. Having Steven S. direct it would have been great, though . . .

I don't like everything he does but there's no doubt he's a fine director who really knows his stuff.

Question: if Lucarse couldn't have Steven S. direct Jedi, how did he keep having him for the other Indy flicks? Because those still have the credits in the beginning? Yeah, Jedi didn't have credits in the beginning, the Indy films did. That's why Spielberg was OK to direct the Indy films, but not Jedi. Lucas was too worried that Spielberg's director's guild membership would be in jeopardy if he directed Jedi.
Originally posted by: hairy_hen
I'd sure like to read a book about the making of SW that didn't have any official Lucarse propaganda. That would be really interesting.
I recommend "Empire Building" by Garry Jenkins.

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I wonder what the whole story there is, if there even is one. TRON had no opening credits, Spielberg himself directed 1941, which has no credits. i think that whole Spielberg-directing-a-star wars-movie was probably a lot of talk. The dvd just covered it in the same vague P.R.-influenced bullshit as everything else.
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
I wonder what the whole story there is, if there even is one. TRON had no opening credits, Spielberg himself directed 1941, which has no credits. i think that whole Spielberg-directing-a-star wars-movie was probably a lot of talk. The dvd just covered it in the same vague P.R.-influenced bullshit as everything else.
Well, they kind of let it slide for the first movie. Then, when ESB came out, they fined Irvin Kershner like $200,000. GL paid it, and left the guild. He didn't want more problems for Jedi with Spielberg, so he picked a non-American to direct. TRON and 1941 had no sequels, so there wasn't the same problem.

But yeah, I've also read that Marquand was picked because he agreed to kind of "go along" with whatever GL wanted. However- in "Empire Building", it did say that the scene where Luke goes back to Dagobah was Marquand's idea, and he was pretty firm on it. In the original Jedi script, Luke doesn't go back, so we have Marquand to thank for that scene.