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what if, everyone here who owns a car puts up a notice in the window to help inform joe public in the run up to sept 21. the text could be worked out here. it could start as a question. Are you buying the starwars trilogy dvd's? Are you aware that........
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OK, maybe he's got a point here. The whole petition thing is not working properly. We need action. "Fight Club's Project Mayhem" kinda action. I want you to pick up a fight with someone who has bought the DVD. And I want you to lose. I want you to go out to the stores and burn every copy of THX-1138 and Star Wars, but only the special editions. I am Jack's special edition.

Seriously speaking now, you know what? Let people buy it, but... let's hope Lucasarts NEVER publicizes properly that this is an altered version. When people get home and watch it, they'll get pissed. There will be some angry costumers, demanding their money back. Yes, this is how we can win...

In another forum I've heard about a good idea: pre-buying it, and cancelling one week before it's released. A lot of people on this brazillian forum are going to do it (I'm not, what if I can't cancel it)...
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The biggest problem with this is that NO ONE CARES. Well, not enough to not buy the DVDs anyway.

Really. Is it such a big deal? Why does everyone here hate the DVDs so much!? Most of the SE crap is fixed anyway, right?

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Here comes the flood of people bickering over what is confirmed and what is rumor. I can feel it in the force.

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Here comes the flood of people bickering over what is confirmed and what is rumor. I can feel it in the force.


Dark times are these.....



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Really. Is it such a big deal? Why does everyone here hate the DVDs so much!? Most of the SE crap is fixed anyway, right?


because he is choosing to release yet another tinkered version of his movies and yet still says the OT no longer exist...
we've been saying this for a year now...
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he could have only tinkered with the SE, though.
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he can tinker all he wants with the SE...
it needs the tinkering... lol
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Originally posted by: ELECTRIC ANT
what if, everyone here who owns a car puts up a notice in the window to help inform joe public in the run up to sept 21. the text could be worked out here. it could start as a question. Are you buying the starwars trilogy dvd's? Are you aware that........
ok, it was a crap clutch at straws idea to expect to take off. good thing is lucas is his own enemy, and the more he tampers with it the more people he'll upset who will come looking for the answers and the OT like i did.

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But what is the big deal about tinkering with them?

People complain that Jabba in ANH looks awful, which he did. Now it is fixed.

People complan that after all the CGI Sy Snooldes crap, that they never fixed the Rancor scene. Now they have.

If people hate the SE because it looks too-much like a carftoon, then why hate it MORE when they fix that?

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
But what is the big deal about tinkering with them?


What's wrong with releasing the untinkered with versions?

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People complain that Jabba in ANH looks awful, which he did. Now it is fixed.


Doesn't change the fact that it's still a worthless, redundant scene that his own wife cut. He still looks awful too.

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People complan that after all the CGI Sy Snooldes crap, that they never fixed the Rancor scene. Now they have.


Something that should have been a priority the first time through. The CGI Sy Snootles crap is still there.

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If people hate the SE because it looks too-much like a carftoon, then why hate it MORE when they fix that?


I hate the SE's because they were pointless, derivative, superfluous, and half-assed. They changed good scenes and added bad ones. The CGI work was sub-par by company standards. The celebration scene went against canon, and it made classic films into technological testbeds. It's not a matter of hating it more with more changes, its a matter of what remains, and why its there. Its a matter of saying, "why didn't they do that in the first place". Where does it end? When Lucas remakes them from scratch? The SE with more changes, even if they are improvements, are still a case of pretty paint on ugly walls.


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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
But what is the big deal about tinkering with them?

People complain that Jabba in ANH looks awful, which he did. Now it is fixed.

People complan that after all the CGI Sy Snooldes crap, that they never fixed the Rancor scene. Now they have.

If people hate the SE because it looks too-much like a carftoon, then why hate it MORE when they fix that?


Ok, I'm going to try and explain 'what the big deal is' with all of the changes/tinkering with these movies.

I read this on another board and I hope that I can keep it as close to the original idea as possible.

Picture this if you will. You have a favorite restaurante. You eat there all the time. You love the food, you love the atmosphere. Then suddenly, the owner of the joint fires the chef and hires a new one. The menu didn't change. Just the chef. However, now you begin to notice that your favorite foods don't quite taste the way they used to. It's not that the food tastes bad, but it's just not the same. It's not what you grew to love.

That in a nut shell is how most of us here feel about the SE versions of these films. It's not that what Lucas is doing is 'bad.' Most of us feel that the clean up of the movies and fixing what really needed to be fixed is great. And there are some of us who feel that some of the 'cosmetic' changes and tinkerings are ok. Not great. But ok. Example, the Cloud City windows (at least for me anyway).

I, and many others here, have stated time and time again that we don't care how much Lucas changes the films. We just want the choice to either buy the original versions or the new versions. Lucas is refusing to release the original (and by original I mean of course the theatrical versions of the films that have been cleaned up and no added scenes, Jabba, Luke girlie screem, Jedi Rocks number, ect.) These are the films that I and many others saw back in 77, 80 and 83. These are the movies that we want on DVD. Like your favorite food as mentioned above. We don't want the new dishes that have been spiced up. The original dishes were just fine. We savored those dishes for over 20 years. Now if we want to own Star Wars on DVD we are literally being forced to either buy the new version DVDs or to just go without. That is the big deal!

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Eh.. What can I say to that? The SE created all my starwars memories.

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I'm hungry now.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
But what is the big deal about tinkering with them?

People complain that Jabba in ANH looks awful, which he did. Now it is fixed.

People complan that after all the CGI Sy Snooldes crap, that they never fixed the Rancor scene. Now they have.

If people hate the SE because it looks too-much like a carftoon, then why hate it MORE when they fix that?


The problem I have with the SE is that the original movies are forever lost. It's like having a paiting you love, and then someone paints a mustache over it, and you can't remove it anymore. I'm OK with him releasing the SEs, George Lucas can turn the whole thing into a bobsponge squarepants cartoon if he wants to, I don't care. I'm OK with watching the SEs, yes there are some neat things there, windows in cloud city, i liked the sarlaac pit, "you're lucky to get out of there" original line, but it can't REPLACE the original one.

I have them on VHS tapes, copies of the 1995 release, and I don't have a VCR anymore (it broke while I was watching ANH) and I'll not buy another VCR (buying VCRs is too 80s to me), and the DVD was my only chance to see them in a original presentation. I don't want to download it from some torrent, I don't have a DVD burner. I don't want to buy a bootleg, mostly because it's kinda hard to find the original unaltered trilogy here, and it would cost too much to buy it from the US or UK. I wanted an official DVD from 20th century fox and lucasfilm, with comentaries, with special features and all that stuff...

Another good example is THX-1138. I've always wanted to watch it, and it's unavailable here in Brazil. It will be available now, but it'll be that special edition. I'll never be able to watch the original movie, ever...
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i think those couple posts should explain everything you need to know about tinkering..
lol

bobsponge squarepants... isnt is sponge bob squarepants??

hehe
just busting balls
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