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** how do you convert 720p/1080p files to DVD and retain the HD? **

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Okay folks, I am having a set of problems:

A) I've been having problems regarding MKV conversion.  I found THORAnime's SWORD AND THE STRANGER 720p on tehparadox and have used many programs (winAVI, All 2 Avi, TSmuxer + IMGburn, OJOsoft Total Conversion)  and they ALL have problems with converting MKV to anything else.

I experience either:

(1) audio but no video
(2) subtitles won't transfer over (OJOsoft)
(3) I receive the same error with TSmuxer, yet despite the fact that after I create a Blu-ray file and can click on the STREAM folder and play the m2tc file within, when I put the dvd created with IMGburn into my PS3 I either get nothing at all or just the audio (and that is correctly setting the video to 4.1)

Is there any program out there that will convert a MKV file to something that will play on the PS3... and WORK?

B) even when you create a conversion (ala MKV to AVI file) how can you copy it to a dvd and retain the 720p/1080p settings?  Most programs like NERO downconvert to the dvd standard of 480x720 when you copy an AVI file to dvd.  I know TSmuxer will create a blu-ray folder set, but if the MKV isn't read properly (by TSmuxer during conversion) your PS3 will not be able to read the dvd created through TSmuxer.

         

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MAN I feel your pain,I want to SO badly be able to figure out how to create AVCHD discs,I have a bunch of hidef files just waiting to be converted,Ady makes it sound so easy but I keep getting some of the same results you do.

so I will be following this thread along with you.

Ady if you are up for it,I would love to upload a sample 100MB .ts for you to look at.

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This brings up something that I've been starting to dread:

Ady has stated that his EMPIRE: REVISITED will be in 720p.  If it is released as an *.MKV file, does this mean others and I won't be able to watch it due to this snag with MKV conversion (because it also looks like the PS3 won't accept any surround sound audio encoding like DTS, which I've heard is the main reason a lot of uploaders use MKV to begin with)?

         

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dark_jedi said:

MAN I feel your pain,I want to SO badly be able to figure out how to create AVCHD discs,I have a bunch of hidef files just waiting to be converted,Ady makes it sound so easy but I keep getting some of the same results you do.

so I will be following this thread along with you.

Ady if you are up for it,I would love to upload a sample 100MB .ts for you to look at.

yeh, i'll take a look at it for you

 

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adywan said:
dark_jedi said:

MAN I feel your pain,I want to SO badly be able to figure out how to create AVCHD discs,I have a bunch of hidef files just waiting to be converted,Ady makes it sound so easy but I keep getting some of the same results you do.

so I will be following this thread along with you.

Ady if you are up for it,I would love to upload a sample 100MB .ts for you to look at.

yeh, i'll take a look at it for you

 

I will upload ASAP a sample,and a HUGE Thanks for taking the time to look at it,I will PM you with the link.

 

 

 

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Ady are you using the latest "stable" versions of these,DGIndex,MeGUI,TSmuxer or are you using the Betas?

Thanks

 

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adywan said:

for megui i'm using 0.3.1.1016 (dgindex is included in this) and TSMuxer i'm using 1.8.4

 

Great,those are the versions I am using to.

Thanks

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Second post (posting on this thread in case Ady has deleted his subscription to the others):

 

Sorry for the "fishing"... it is that those of us on the forums don't know which message other forum members may be watching, so the reasoning is to post at least 2 or 3 different threads in the hope that someone (like yourself) will at least notice one of them.

I am still wondering if the PS3 system firmware update isn't playing a factor in any of this as well.

Regardless, I appreciate the in-depth response and I will test those suggestions out to see if they work on my machine.

PS: is there a way to create a DVD with menus and such AND have the 720p video?  In another question, I was wondering if there was a way to do this and put it into an ISO file, so after download one could use IMGburn to simply burn the ISO to disc and have the best of both worlds (720p image and have a menu with possible extras)

         

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OK Ady,I just have to THANK YOU 1 more time,I think I got it,all my samples are playing on the PS3 and my Sony BDP-S350 Bluray player,I had to just modify the avisynth script,I took away the AssumeBFF() and added this Telecide(order=0,guide=1)and added a few more lines.

not sure why I had to do it this way and it worked for you the other way,I wonder if we are both running the same versions of the filters,I have tried to update as many as I can as frequent as I can.
also what program did you use to find what codec was used on the file and that the pulldown flags were all messed up?

again,Thanks my friend.

ps. now I can whip up some of my own AVCHD titles of some of these that are not out yet,like Sheena,The Gate,Night of The Comet,Night of The Creeps,King Kong 1976,Death Wish 1-3,From Beyond,HELL even maybe Howard The Duck LOL,and the list goes on.

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Monroville said:

I am still wondering if the PS3 system firmware update isn't playing a factor in any of this as well.

 

I doubt this has anything to do with it,my PS3 is always updated with the latest frimware and it works for me.

my BDP-S350 is always at the latest update to,and it works fine as well.

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Don't know if anyone is still perusing this thread, but I am now getting the OPPOSITE issue; I did what you said Ady and used the "split and cut" feature of TSMUXER. I saved a 10 minute segment onto a thumb drive and the video plays on the PS3 but there is no sound.  Is there a setting on TSMUXER I need to reset or do I need to remux the entire MKV file?

Update: this is REALLY making me pull my hair out.  I downloaded a TS file of MOTEL HELL at 1080i over at Cinemageddon, used TXmuxer to create a blu-ray disc (with the 2 file folders), burned it onto DVD-5 using IMGBURN and wala!  It worked!  Plays great!

So... I took some MKV files (of HOWARD THE DUCK and ALIEN), used TXmuxer to convert them to TS files (with 4.1 setting implemented), converted them into blu-ray discs, burned the folders onto DVD-9s with IMGBURN and the PS3 says:

Cannot play video

Why will it convert one TS file perfectly fine and not the others?!?!

         

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I am pulling my hair out regarding TSmuxer; I am getting 3 different results when trying to make a blu-ray disc (to fit said 720p and 1080i TS files onto DVD-5s or DVD-9s).

(1) it works fine - I downloaded the MOTEL HELL 1080ip TS file from here.  H.264 Profile is Main@ 4.0: 1440x1080i.  Converted TS to blu-ray disc folders, used ImgBurn to burn to DVD-5 and it played without a hitch on my PS3

(2) won't play at all - converted HOWARD THE DUCK 720p MKV file to TS file using TSmuxer.  H.264 profile is High@4.0: 1280x688p.  Converted to blu-ray folders, used ImgBurn to burn to DVD-9 and got "video won't play" error on PS3

(3) plays, but huge green bar on bottom of screen - did the same thing as above with ALIEN 720p MKV file, only this time H.264 profile is High@4.1: 1280x544p.  Converted to blu-ray folders, used ImgBurn to DVD-9 and it works, but 2.35 image is crammed to the top of the TV screen with big green bar on the bottom.

Is there a difference between the 4.0 and 4.1 settings?  Where is the green bar coming from?  Why doesn't this program provide consistent results when doing the same procedure?

         

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i thought you had to pad the video to exactly 1080p or 720p

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joebshmoe said:

i thought you had to pad the video to exactly 1080p or 720p

That may be the case, but it also comes across as (at least with TSmuxer) some programs just aren't very consistent in their performance.  I know I'm a dummy when it comes to this stuff at the moment, so user error is a definite culprit, but when I've managed to get 3 different results by doing the same exact thing... well, this is what I'm looking like lately:



Regardless, the TS files of MOTEL HELL and THE GATE that Rasputin created over at Cinemageddon muxed into blu-ray discs just fine (created said folders and ImgBurned them onto DVD-5s).  It is when I attempt to create a TS file from the MKV files downloaded from tehparad*x that I get the problems.

 

         

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Monroville said:
joebshmoe said:

i thought you had to pad the video to exactly 1080p or 720p

That may be the case, but it also comes across as (at least with TSmuxer) some programs just aren't very consistent in their performance.  I know I'm a dummy when it comes to this stuff at the moment, so user error is a definite culprit, but when I've managed to get 3 different results by doing the same exact thing...

Well, TSmuxer probably just does what it's supposed to do - muxes... I'm no expert at this hd stuff, but I think you need to look at the specs of your source files and check if the resolution/bitrates/codecs/etc. are compatible with the AVCHD specs.

There are some specs here. A quick look and it looks like the cropped resolutions you had problems with aren't supported, so you'd probably need to reencode those.

 

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I will post the info from tehparadox MKV files tomorrow, but the ones I am having problems with are the ones in the correct aspect (1280x720p).  The TS files of MOTEL HELL and THE GATE (1440x1080i) transferred perfectly and play without any problems.  It is the actual conversion of the MKV files that is the issue, since THE GATE and MOTEL HELL were already in the TS format.  It's GETTING to the TS format that is my issue.

I also know that the ALIEN and HOWARD THE DUCK MKV files are in the 5.1 format - I tried converting them to 4.0 and 4.1.  4.0 seems to result in an unplayable video file, whereas the 4.1 results in a green bar appearing on the bottom of the image, with the movie shoved to the upper part of the screen.   I will take some screen caps to show you what I mean later on...

         

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Monroville said:

I will post the info from tehparadox MKV files tomorrow, but the ones I am having problems with are the ones in the correct aspect (1280x720p).  The TS files of MOTEL HELL and THE GATE (1440x1080i) transferred perfectly and play without any problems.  It is the actual conversion of the MKV files that is the issue, since THE GATE and MOTEL HELL were already in the TS format.  It's GETTING to the TS format that is my issue.

I also know that the ALIEN and HOWARD THE DUCK MKV files are in the 5.1 format - I tried converting them to 4.0 and 4.1.  4.0 seems to result in an unplayable video file, whereas the 4.1 results in a green bar appearing on the bottom of the image, with the movie shoved to the upper part of the screen.   I will take some screen caps to show you what I mean later on...

I can see what your problem is right there Monroville. These files are level 5.1 which the PS3 will not play. TSMuxer will only attempt to change the level to 4.1 it cannot fully convert it. It will work with some files but it all depends on how the original was encoded. If you are muxing a HD file to Blu-Ray DVD-9 it has to conform strictly to the HD vertical resolution (720 or 1080) if the black bars have been cropped then there is no video data for the black areas and the PS3 will shift the video to the top part of the screen and the bottom section will have the green bar. The way around this is just to use TSMuxer to convert the mkv to a TS file then burn it to a DVD as a data file then the PS3 will play it without shifting the image and it will not have the green bar.

Your best bet instead of wasting DL-DVD's is to mux a small section of the video first (using tsmuxers split and cut feature) and popping it on a usb stick or external hard drive to test on the PS3. If the video is level 5.1 then there's a strong possibility that you will have to re-encode the video first to get it to work but TSMuxer is successful in many cases.

 

 

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