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Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.
I want one!
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But for new Macheads, this is great. No question.
Here's a spec page from Apple.com.
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My only experience with an apple involves vague memories of deleting everything on the compture and having my father restore it, follwowed shortly after by a system crash.
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well i have used both extensively and i find PCs better for somethings, and macs better for others.
I can respect that opinion. I have the same feeling. I think some things are definitely platform dependent. There are some things PCs do that Macs can't quite as well, and vice versa. But I have weighed what I need a computer for and a Mac works better for me.
Chaltab, all computers crash. If I were basing my opinion on crashes, I would never touch a PC again in my life. I owned so many of them that crapped out entirely after a really brief period. However, my PowerBook has been with me for just under six years now. I love it. I'm not entirely ruling out a PC. Actually I have seen some PC laptops that I have absolutely loved and have considered buying. But I'm a Mac man at heart.
And, no, it's not a case of "everybody" on these boards loving them. There is just a small group of people that love them and revel when something new is announced. When something new in the PC world is announced, it's not as big a deal because it doesn't universally affect all PC users. However Mac users do get affected because it's one company producing all our computers. Think of it like this, if Dell announced some big new thing, it really wouldn't be that big a deal, right? You may be using Acer, Gateway, or any of thousands of other makers' computers. You may just shrug your shoulders and that would be your right. Mac announcements have been big deals ever since the Power PC chip was announced. Steve Jobs it the king of secrecy and an air of mystery and awe surrounds his announcements (I'm not making this up either). It's like the announcement of the cold fusion reactor in the movie The Saint. Remember how they trumped that up? That's how it is when Mac announces something new.
So we will continue to talk about it. If something big and new in the PC world comes around, I would expect you to do the same if it affected you.
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I had to add something to this $90 knife.
A bent 1 cent paperclip.
Why? So I could get a floppy disk out of a Mac.
Give me a computer with a manual floppy disk ejection button any day of the week.
Then you have the original IMac. No floppy drive, and if you wanted 96MB of memory or more, you had to void the warranty.
I have never found anything that a Mac did better than a PC.
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*shrugs* as long as my computer lets me surf the internet, without crashing, I don't mind what else it does. Computers in general are so unrelieable and expensive compared to consoles that I rarely, if ever play PC games anymore.
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Now if only I had 500 dollars...
Well, you know, robbing banks is getting easier and easier nowadays...
BTW, this was a joke folks. I don't have a laught track, I don't have a drummer, so you gotta guess the joke by yourselves.
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Originally posted by: ricarleiteWell, you know, robbing banks is getting easier and easier nowadays...
Well, I'm not surprised. The criminals are getting dumber and dumber. The banks don't need to be as cautious.
I got a dumb criminals desk calendar last year, and there were things in it that surprised me.
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Originally posted by: ricarleiteWell, you know, robbing banks is getting easier and easier nowadays...
Well, I'm not surprised. The criminals are getting dumber and dumber. The banks don't need to be as cautious.
I got a dumb criminals desk calendar last year, and there were things in it that surprised me.
Share some of them with us!
I heart reading about idiotic criminals.
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Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.
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Is there any good reason someone would buy a MAC, besides the U2 iPod?
"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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QuoteThis is the one from Feb. 1 of last year:
Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabShare some of them with us!
I heart reading about idiotic criminals.
A market in Greensboro, North Carolina, was robbed by two men -- one of them was brandishing a pitchfork.
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Iwant one of these because they are so simple and so cool. My dream model is similar to Bossk's except I'd forego the AirPort card and the Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse, and use the $200 I saved to buy a USB keyboard and mouse and a flatscreen CRT monitor. LCDs are nifty and thin, but they're still not as good as CRTs for PQ.
Actually, mine didn't have the Bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Mine was with the USB model. But I did get the airport card simply for wireless networking since there is no PC slot in it for a card.
iTunes is a great program that I have never had a problem with. Loads fast and has more available songs than any other pay-per-download site out there. Plus the exclusive tracks are great. Many artists record tracks specifically for iTunes. I know that a few have done this for Napster as well. But getting an exclusive U2 track is better than an exclusive Macy Gray track, IMHO.
Dushku, the U2 iPod is not all that. I can't say I'm a big fan.
I buy Macs because the video and graphics processing, off the shelf, is far better than a PC. When you buy a PC, you have to upgrade the hell out of it to bring it to a processing level equivalent to a Mac. Macs are prepped with all that stuff in advance. Plus the service on Macs is far better. I've always had all my questions about Macs answered in a very timely fashion unlike the PC support services I've encountered.
And, before anyone says, you can't compare a Mac to an off-the-shelf PC because those types of PCs are crap (which is what some people on this forum have argued in the past), that's just the case here. Why shouldn't you be able to make the comparison? That's one of the keys... Mac makes it easy for people. PCs are complicated as hell to update and repair and find compatible peripherals and make work properly unless you really know what you're doing. And 98% of PC owners don't know what they're doing. So it's not easy. And they get frustrated. I know more than my fair share of people who hate their PCs because of the lack of simplicity inherent in ownership of one. Then they start working on a Mac and love it.
There's your reason right there.
But, if you know what you're doing and you like to work on computers, then a PC is definitely the way to go. God bless ya. If you enjoy, then do it. Knock yourself out. I don't. I want to hook up my computer and go to town. I want it to be preloaded with all the hardware and plug ins that I need so I can just use it. I can do some work on PCs, but I don't want to have to. Screw that. It's not my bag.
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Originally posted by: starkillerQuoteThis is the one from Feb. 1 of last year:
Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabShare some of them with us!
I heart reading about idiotic criminals.
A market in Greensboro, North Carolina, was robbed by two men -- one of them was brandishing a pitchfork.
Just to let you know, that isn't representative of all North Carolinians.
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There are tens of thousands of web servers running on Windows 2000 reliably. This site is hosted on one of them.
If Windows 2000 and XP crashed as much as Mac users claim, nobody would ever be online because half of your favorite sites wouldn't be accessible. The others run on UNIX, which isn't what OS X is, by the way, no matter what Jobs tells you.
Whenever I get the urge to upgrade my PC, I'm tempted to give Apple a shot. The designer in me finds the Mac aesthetic very pleasing.
Then my research reminds me what Macs cost. When I add up the expense of significantly superior PC hardware--including a pretty silver aluminum case--and find it costs much less, I come back to reality.
Then there's the one-button mouse with the weirdest clicking/tilting action I've ever felt. I can only conclude that functionality is giving way to the subtle sophistication of simplicity in this case.
The $499 price point of the Mac mini is exciting because of the form factor, not because of performance. An ATI 9200 with 32MB of RAM? Exciting, yes--three years ago. Probably a decent DVD/CD/MP3 player, so it would make a cool client for a media server. Rip all your DVDs and CDs to hard disk and feed them wirelessly to several Mac minis hooked up to the displays in your home. Nothing that couldn't be done with a PC for less money though.
Bossk makes a good point. Prebuilt PCs should work. That's what people expect when they buy them. However, there are significant differences between the PC market and the Apple market. As noted by a previous poster, Apple is the sole manufacturer of their primary hardware and the sole developer of the OS. That means tight control of most aspects of the hardware and far fewer possible configurations. I would expect superior stability with such a platform--which isn't what you get, but I'll touch on that later.
But when people talk about Macs, what are they talking about? They're talking about one company with one direction and one vision. When people talk about PCs, they're talking about hundreds of builders, not including the local mom and pop shops building PCs one at a time by hand. Hundreds of builders. Thousands of hardware manufacturers. Thousands of programmers. All writing their own little drivers and applications, 90% of which are hell-bent on wrecking your Windows installation thanks to shoddy development work. Microsoft took a step in the right direction with WHQL (Windows Hardware Quality Lab) certification, but nobody's forcing developers to use it.
I could spout a ton of anecdotal evidence "proving" the superior stability of Windows 2000 and Windows XP to any Mac OS to date, including the current OS Apple stole and put a fancy evening gown on. I won't do that because it's total bullshit, just like the claims that OS X is the most stable OS ever.
I've heard just as many Mac horror stories as PC horror stories. The myth that Macs come out of the box crash-proof and ready to go needs to stop. Any perceived differences based on your own personal experience are attributable to bad luck and/or poor system setup.
If you're going to bitch about PC instability, don't blame the PC format. Blame builders like Dell who use motherboards with poor upgrade paths and Indian tech support you can't understand. Blame application developers who write sloppy code. Blame your office's poorly trained PC administrators.
And what about the usability differences? Academic. I've used both. Different but equal. It simply comes down to user preference.
Mac is a BRAND, just like Nike, Coca-Cola, and McDonald's. Steve Jobs is a marketing genius who knows how to exploit the Mac Mystique in order to sell the image. That little half-eaten piece of fruit is a status symbol that Mac owners love. That's why it lights up on their laptops; it must draw attention to itself.
The value of the brand will not allow other manufacturers to sell Mac-based machines. Rival manufacturers dilute Apple's profits right along with the strength of the brand. That's why they bought out Power Computing Corp. for $100 million years ago.
PCs aren't a brand. They're tools. A very different market.
Again, as a designer, I can understand why some people prefer Macs, but just once I'd like to hear a Mac user admit that the primary reason they like them is because they look pretty.
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