Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray? — Page 16

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Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

Wazzles said:

Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

I don’t see how one confirms the other.

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

I don’t see how one confirms the other.

I suppose it doesn’t necessarily, but wouldn’t if they were to release a restoration this year, why would they bother even showing the 97 version?

Wazzles said:

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

I don’t see how one confirms the other.

I suppose it doesn’t necessarily, but wouldn’t if they were to release a restoration this year, why would they bother even showing the 97 version?

Because the restoration isn’t ready?
Because nostalgia?
Because jerks?
Because money?
Because Jabba-lovers?
Because 1997 was the year of the Beast?
Because I can keep going?

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

I don’t see how one confirms the other.

I suppose it doesn’t necessarily, but wouldn’t if they were to release a restoration this year, why would they bother even showing the 97 version?

Because the restoration isn’t ready?
Because nostalgia?
Because jerks?
Because money?
Because Jabba-lovers?
Because 1997 was the year of the Beast?
Because I can keep going?

Yeah.

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

I don’t see how one confirms the other.

I suppose it doesn’t necessarily, but wouldn’t if they were to release a restoration this year, why would they bother even showing the 97 version?

Because the restoration isn’t ready?
Because nostalgia?
Because jerks?
Because money?
Because Jabba-lovers?
Because 1997 was the year of the Beast?
Because I can keep going?

You forgot because Greedo shot first

Colson said:

Wazzles said:

TV’s Frink said:

Wazzles said:

Well, at least we know we won’t see a proper version within the year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/12/star-wars-original-trilogy-heading-back-to-theaters

I don’t see how one confirms the other.

I suppose it doesn’t necessarily, but wouldn’t if they were to release a restoration this year, why would they bother even showing the 97 version?

Mainly because it appears Alamo Drafthouse is showing 35mm prints of the '97 version, specifically, so I imagine they’ve gone to great lengths to secure these prints.

I’ve read that when a theater requests a 35mm Star Wars film to show, they can still get the 1997 version from Fox. Though the ones shown last year were the digital 1080p 2011 versions.

I wonder what would happen if they requested the prequels in 35mm.

i would not just for the fans, but disney could make tons of money from the fans. if they want more ideas for more money, they should brainstorm and put this idea on the table.

I actually had a dream last night that we finally got a legit OUT release. It opened with a fake version of the opening crawl which turned out to be a gag then the movie appeared to start again but it looked like a shitty non-anamorphic VHS transfer but this turned out to be another gag and then the legit restored movie started playing. Come to think of it it would be amusing if Disney/Lucasfilm chose to tease us with how the OUT is being handled given its reputation as one of the most if not the most desired movie restorations in cinema’s history.

The longer they wait, the bigger a deal it will be when they finally do restore and release the original versions.

I just hope they do it while there is still some support for physical media and don’t wait until we can’t actually own our movies anymore. That’s the nightmare scenario regarding the OOT as far as I’m concerned.

Nothing I’ve seen yet has done anything to dissuade me that it’ll come in 2017 for the anniversary.

Do you guys think Lucas is actually against the original versions coming out? I remember him saying he didn’t want to restore them because he didn’t want to put time and money into what he considered “rough drafts”. But is he also actively against these being released? And if so, what are the chances that this is causing hesitation within Lucasfilm to release them?

You do make a good point, Maestro. If Lucas was really that crazily, fundamentally against anyone ever seeing the originals period in any form, if he really wanted to go full 1984 and pretend they never existed, we wouldn’t have even gotten the GOUT. It was an extremely lazy release, yes, but a release all the same. He was probably just far too lazy to bother doing a full HD restoration of the originals and he also kind of wanted to stick it to the fans who didn’t like his new “vision.” Then again he even went so far as to restore the 77 title crawl on the GOUT DVD, so I guess he wasn’t totally against history at that point. And since then, he literally sold everything Star Wars, conceded defeat and said he was done with it, and though he whined about Disney not using his ideas for the sequels, he did nothing to stop it from happening. And as I’ve said before, if he didn’t insert some kind of clause forcing Disney to use his ideas, he certainly wouldn’t have inserted one forbidding them from releasing the OUT, especially since he did it himself a few years earlier. I don’t think he cares anymore if the originals come out with a proper restoration, so long as he doesn’t have to do the work himself.

So that leaves only a few possible reasons we haven’t seen it yet:

1. There are some kind of technical hurdles (i.e. George really did destroy the original negatives), but that’s not much of an excuse since if even Harmy can make a great looking version from far more limited sources, Disney and Lucasfilm certainly can.
2. There are some kind of legal disputes between Disney and 20th Century Fox, though they seemed to have resolved this enough to re-issue the Blu-rays and put out a digital download release.
3. They are working on it, but have not finished it yet or are holding off for an anniversary release or some other time after hype has been built to maximize profits.
4. Disney is really stupid and does not see the money to be made from this release and/or they actually agree with George’s “vision” and think the SEs should remain the only available versions. Highly unlikely, since they have clearly de-emphasized the prequel era and emphasized the original era since taking over, going so far as to even re-issue the original soundtracks complete with “Lapti Nek” and “Yub Nub.” They also have said they’re out to satisfy the fans, and they’re certainly not ignorant of the fan demand considering people like those on this site have made their desires loud and clear repeatedly.