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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP) — Page 2

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oh no! I’m sorry to hear about your connection ^^;

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I managed to get some of the Yavin stuff to load and I like the more tropical feel it gives off. The light skies and dark forest also look like there’s an imminent storm which is a good metaphor.

The lighting in the Laars’ garage may be a bit too dark. I always thought it was too dark compared to AotC in ANH anyway and I never even noticed the skyhopper because of the lighting, but it looks a little creepy with 3P0 as a main light source. (the nighttime scenes, not the daylight ones where he’s playing with the toy).

Most of the Death Star is a matte grey or a blue tinted grey but the scenes of Obi and Vader getting ready for their duel have a redish tint. Is that a Musterfar callback?

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Triadne, came to see some of the comments over here.

Still deeply interested in the end result!!

(MrBenja0618 at FanEdit)

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Thanks MisterBenja1977 ^_^

Artan42 said:

I managed to get some of the Yavin stuff to load and I like the more tropical feel it gives off. The light skies and dark forest also look like there’s an imminent storm which is a good metaphor.

The lighting in the Laars’ garage may be a bit too dark. I always thought it was too dark compared to AotC in ANH anyway and I never even noticed the skyhopper because of the lighting, but it looks a little creepy with 3P0 as a main light source. (the nighttime scenes, not the daylight ones where he’s playing with the toy).

Most of the Death Star is a matte grey or a blue tinted grey but the scenes of Obi and Vader getting ready for their duel have a redish tint. Is that a Musterfar callback?

Thanks, I’m glad you liked. this is really rich and rewarding feedback and makes me feel some additional motivation 😃

I hadn’t intended to make it look stormy, I was mainly trying to enhance the richness of the trees and the ambience they would give off. That is a wonderful side effect though 😄

unfortunately in the garage at night, that shot with 3po is very dark in the original footage, even with the enhanced bit depth of the UHD source. I played around with that shot a fair bit to try and bring it up, but it always ended up looking muddy. I might be able to fix it in post in some way though. depending on how I edit it, I could introduce some lights and maybe use some painting techniques to introduce detail. it depends though… I mean it is one shot and may not be important enough.
I mean, take a look, this is how much detail is in that shot in the dark sections! not much to work with there ^_^ garage

I like your observation of these shots on the death star. initially, I was looking at Ralph Mcquarrie’s concept art and there were a few colour schemes for the death star. the most common was quite bright with blue tints. there was one piece though that showed Luke and Leia in the vertical shaft and it had a rather red hue, I liked the contrast with the other pieces so I decided to use it. my feeling though, was that obi wan was away from the others for the entirety of that mission, so I decided to create a contrast between those two threads using these colours. It is very beneficial though, that it has given you this feeling because this is very inspirational. I have been heavily influenced to do this project by this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9j7kLG7VK8 and have been wondering how I would craft my project with a mind to potentially using flashbacks. I could most certainly consider using flashbacks to mustafar somewhere around this scene. It would help a lot, since I had previously considered using sections of scene 38 reimagined, but had to abandon that because the colour depth is not available in their footage for me to grade it properly to match my work.

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Okay, it’s been a moment.
Got caught up working on my video game development.

Got started on this edit now, after ironing out some audio issues.

done a lot of experimenting and trying to see if i can fit in some Rog1 footage.
I’ve gone with this juxtaposition idea, as the rhythm of the Rog1 scene is way different so I’m seeing if it can work this way.
I’d appreciate some feedback on the rhythm and visual of this edit. The audio needs a lot of work but that can come after.
https://vimeo.com/559666229

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I really like using the Rogue One scene as part of the boarding of the Tantive IV. And it works really well! My only concern is that while it works for a small clip of the movie it might end up feeling out of place in the context of the full movie (much like the fan edits that include Sc38 Reimagined).

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leftshoe18 said:

I really like using the Rogue One scene as part of the boarding of the Tantive IV. And it works really well! My only concern is that while it works for a small clip of the movie it might end up feeling out of place in the context of the full movie (much like the fan edits that include Sc38 Reimagined).

thank you, I agree that is a real concern so this is why I am super keen to get feedback on this at this stage.
I’ve already cut it to pieces in a bid to help it fit in, but there is a good chance it still won’t fit.
If you think it would be useful, I could render out a longer clip and share it via google drive?

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The ending is a bit off where Vader goes directly from a corridor to a junction and is suddenly holding the captain.
Overall I’m not sure it works. The concept is good, the matched colours and resolution between the films works well but there’s just two different styles with the dynamic camera vs the static camera. ANH is a really static film.
RO fits better as a prologue where the static feel comes across as more of a breather from the intense chase leading up to it I think.

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Thanks, yes I did do some adjustment of the lighting afterwards to make that work. The part where he’s stood holding the captain is now quite dark and then the light level raises. it helps with that issue, but I agree with your assessment of the filming styles.

It has been my intention to reframe shots here and there and I can introduce dynamism in other shots throughout the film… but that would be a case of trying to fit a round peg in a square hole, by chiselling away at the hole.

Although this sequence is really cool, I think I do have to accept that it’s not going to work.

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triadne said:

hi all,
I’ve completed the preliminary colour grade.

here is an image of the final scene.

Looks yellow and seems to lack highlights. Perhaps the gamma is wrong I don’t know.
Unless that’s intentional you need to calibrate your monitor 😉

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4throck said:

triadne said:

hi all,
I’ve completed the preliminary colour grade.

here is an image of the final scene.

Looks yellow and seems to lack highlights. Perhaps the gamma is wrong I don’t know.
Unless that’s intentional you need to calibrate your monitor 😉

thanks, This is an intentional decision to bring some warmth into the scene.
There’s nothing wrong with the original of course, I just personally feel it is a little flat/cold and doesn’t reflect the feeling of safety after having defeated the threat.

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Got some new clips.

first clip is an experiment to deal with those bright flashes. I always hated those bright flashes, they are so harsh and probably not great for epileptics. I looked at the space battle at the start of episode 3 and all the bright flashes in that are followed by smoke from explosions, so that’s what I’m trying.

https://vimeo.com/560133786

second clip is how I’m dealing with Vader’s entrance. I don’t like his pose with hands on hips, it looks kinda camp and really not intimidating. also, I think the close up of his feet among the bodies is more imposing anyway.

https://vimeo.com/560133817

third clip is how I wish to introduce tension and conflict to add to the scariness of Vader. I am closing in on the shots, close up on the faces, on the hands round the neck, etc. also, I zoomed in slightly on the throw and started the camera further right and whipped it to the left in order to hopefully give the throw a feeling of more speed and violence.

https://vimeo.com/560133219

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That third clip is a good idea for making the scenes from A New Hope feel more dynamic to fit in with the Rogue One parts in the intro. Honestly if you can pull off more stuff like that and maybe add some of the shots from the Tatooine part of Star Wars Biomes (there’s a good shot of the landspeeder and the Jawa sandcrawler in there for instance). Not sure if possible but maybe there’s something of the Falcon in flight that’s usable from Solo or the sequel trilogy? Just kinda throwing out ideas. lol

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That sounds really encouraging. 😃
thanks for the extra ideas!

I think it’s important to measure what impact I can have in specific scenes so I want to be careful about how I adjust the framing.
I also find that working with 4K source footage is punishing my PC, I’m using an i5 and motherboard from 2013. my GPU is certainly good but cpu is real bottleneck. so having said that, I think I would get frustrated if I try to do more with attempting to splice footage from Rog1 in there.
I shall come back to it once I’ve done my basic edit…
I’ll do another edit pass at 1080p before I start work on sfx and sound mix.

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I have to be honest I’m not feeling a sense of reward working on this like i did with captain marvel.
I don’t know if it’s a case of motivation or inspiration or something else. I think it’s best for me to stop working on this until I feel excited by it.

I’ve edited up until Luke’s first appearance and I’ve removed 5 minutes of footage. I’ve removed what I feel is unnecessary fluff shots such as excess gunfire, running, jawas doing busywork, etc. I’ve cut what I felt was droning and unnecessary exposition that doesn’t really add anything. I’ve done various things with the darth vader scenes, such as reframing shots, tilting the frame, playing with the speed, warping the image.

I’ve rendered these 12 minutes and if anyone is interested in this then I can share it via google drive. it’s too large to go on vimeo and I think it’s too long to qualify as being okay to post in the forums.

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Id love to see this being finished, i would love a version of the movie that feels like it was actually a fourth movie in a series. id love to hear the alarm of the playing in the background during vader’s entrance.

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ThisIsCreation said:

Id love to see this being finished, i would love a version of the movie that feels like it was actually a fourth movie in a series. id love to hear the alarm of the playing in the background during vader’s entrance.

thank you for saying so. 😃
I don’t intend to abandon this project, I just need to wait until I’m in a better frame of mind.
I’m curious, which specific alarm are you referring to?

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triadne said:

I’ve rendered these 12 minutes and if anyone is interested in this then I can share it via google drive. it’s too large to go on vimeo and I think it’s too long to qualify as being okay to post in the forums.

I’d be interested in seeing it.