Your first impression of "The Clone Wars" — Page 2

My parents thought Luke said the Colonial wars

Bingowings said:

I thought it was clones vs clones.

Obi-Wan's old name sounded so much like (as in Artoo) a phonetic transcription of a registry code, that maybe OB1 was a clone too.

I thought could have resulted in the official outlawing of clone technology to mass produce slaves and armies resulting in droids taking their place (like the Butlerian Jihad in reverse)

    That's what I thought. Clones vs clones.

   I was learning a little about the U.N. in school and on TV.

   Republic=UN  Senate=Assembly  Jedi=UN observer/peacekeepers

    The Rebellion was the backdrop conflict through the OT. I thought clones vs clones would be the backdrop of the PT.

   The novelization reinforced that by declaring that droids weren't good for war.

clones vs. clones. clone jedi vs. clone sith :)

Bingowings said:

I thought it was clones vs clones.

Obi-Wan's old name sounded so much like (as in Artoo) a phonetic transcription of a registry code, that maybe OB1 was a clone too.

I thought could have resulted in the official outlawing of clone technology to mass produce slaves and armies resulting in droids taking their place (like the Butlerian Jihad in reverse)

 This is very similar to what I thought it was (& still prefer to think of it as...).  I discovered Star Wars in the early 90's & didn't really give the Clone Wars much thought at first.  Eventually, when I did (probably around the time I first heard rumors of the prequels being made), I looked up anything I could find about the Clone Wars.

Things I found were pretty sparse (The Thrawn Trilogy actually provided some background, IIRC).  But What I did find allowed me to conclude the following:

The Clone Wars started when a group called the Mandalorians (from whom Boba Fett got & *heavily* modified his armor) decided to take over the Galaxy.  Being one race from one planet, they didn't have armies large enough for the conquest so they set about cloning themselves.  They eventually layed waste to the republic & in a last ditch effort to stop them, the Jedi agreed to clone themselves.  This, of course, created a rift amongst the Jedi.  The Jedi & their clones (& the Republic's armies) finally defeated the Mandalorians.

But there was an unforseen problem.  The rapid growth, among other things, caused clones to be mentally unstable & go nuts.  Not a good thing when you've got force weilding Jedi clones running amok.  Thus, the second Clone War was the real Jedi fighting the cloned Jedi.  This also resulted in public opinion turning against them leading to the downfall of the Jedi.  Around this time would also be the rise of the emperor, Empire, & Darth Vader, all using the Jedi's struggles to their own benefit.

So that's the basic story for the Clone Wars as I imagined it (&, again, still prefer to).  I do specifically remember some book or magazine speculating that Obi-wan was really OB1, which refered to "Old Ben 1", the first clone of Jedi Ben Kenobi.  Not an idea I particularly love, but an interesting idea.  It's been a while, but I do seem to remember clones being an integral part of the Thrawn trilogy with a clone of Luke and that crazy old Jedi, Jorus something-or-other possibly being a clone (hence why he was so nuts).  I also remember something like Bingowings mentioned about the resultant outlawing of clones & then rise of droids as servants (this also tied into R2 & 3PO not being welcomed in the cantina - they were a rather recent addition to the culture & were looked down upon as stealing jobs from living beings).

In france they dubbed "clone war" by "guerre noire", meaning "black war", so the first time I heard about a "clone" war I thought: what the fuck?

xhonzi said:

I like this a lot.  Good jorb.

 Thanks!  & holy crap, I thought I was the only one who said "good jorb"! (I actually had to remind my wife where it was from when I said just the other day!)

On a slight aside, I had fun on a longer drive with my wife today talking about this (the clone wars) very subject & fleshing out some of my ideas even more.  I'm sure not all of these are my own as I've read plenty of other's ideas for better versions of the prequels, but I'd be hard pressed to give credit to the appropriate people.

Anyway, more  ideas for my version of the clone wars:

Obi-wan first meets Anakin when responding to a distress call from a spice freighter on which Anakin is the navigator.  The pilot of the freighter is wounded or killed & Anakin takes the controls, amazing everyone with his piloting skills evading the attacking ship.  Obi-wan realizes that Anakin is using the Force without knowing it & takes him to be trained.  Anakin is in his early 20's.

Obi-wan, after much deliberation, agrees that cloning themselves is the only way that the Jedi (& Republic) will defeat the Mandalorians.  Anakin is staunchley against it & this begins the rift between them.  The resultant horrors of all the clones lead to the emperor's rise to power & creation of the Empire.  Anakin's turn is the result of his rapid acrual of extreme power through the force (most Jedi would start from very young, maybe 10) and his inability to cope with it.  That, combined with his opposal of Jedi cloning would drive him away from Obi-wan & towards the emperor, who also (at least publicly) opposes cloning.

Owen would be Obi-wan's half brother who's a farmer on a planet that is decimated by the wars.  He strongly disagrees with many of Ben's ideals, but also realizes what Luke might mean for the galaxy & thus reluctantly agrees to raise him after relocating to a very remote area where he should be safe from the new Empire.  Leia going to the Organa's would be pretty similar to what we actually got.  Anakin would, obviously, only know his wife had 1 child.  His wife would have also left him before the children were born b/c of his temper and inability to handle the stresses of the war & the new powers he's rapidly attained.  Anakin, would, of course, hold Obi-wan responsible for his wife leaving, adding to his turn. 

Not sure if I would have Anakin already be married or fall in love during the wars/his training.  I kind of like the idea of him being thrown together with the female lead to fall in love under severely stressful situations, only to have it not really work out.  But they would only realize that after they were married.  (I'm envisioning something like what Bogart and Bergman describe of Paris in Casablanca).

The emperor would not be a Jedi or Sith, but merely a person naturally gifted in the Force (like the Skywalkers) who tries to train himself.  His lack of formal training is what results in his darkside turn.  His appearance is due to using the force to extend his life (he'd be extremely old).  And also being so deep in the dark side has physically afflicted/deformed his body.

Whew, sorry for the block of text.  I enjoyed brainstroming this stuff in the car & wanted to write it down before I forgot.  I figured someone here might enjoy reading it too, so I thought I'd post it instead of just writing it down for myself.

The Owen relationship you describe is very similar to one I proposed on the Animated Prequel Thread many moons ago.

Only I had Owen Anakin's brother-in-law and Anakin was married to a local lass (Beru's sister) at the beginning. Anakin is basically a space trucker, he shares a home on Tatooine with his extended family but works off world because it makes more money than farming.

Anakin becomes fascinated with Obi-Wan's life as a Jedi and abandons his wife, who is (though she doesn't tell him) pregnant, to be become a Jedi.

This gives Owen more real reason to dislike Obi-Wan without him having to know the full details of his fall to the dark side. Beru and Owen's fears about Luke being like his father don't seem to stem from worrying about him becoming a child killing, wife choking, would be tyrant but more that he would get his head filled with funny ideas and get himself killed following his dreams and abandoning his responsibilities.

Once Anakin has gone bad the Jedi take Anakin's wife and daughter away (making Owen even more annoyed at the necessity of separating the family).

Anakin's wife lives long enough for Leia to have a good enough memory of her.

I really like those ideas, save for having Tatooine be part of it.  If you set that on a different planet (that's then decimated in the wars) and have exactly what you describe, except now Owen, Luke & co. have to transplant both to restart their farming lives as well as hide out from the empire....  I love it.  I still also like the idea of anakin's wife leabing him as he begins to fall.  Perhaps obiwan helps her get away into hiding from anakin?

But I really like the idea of keeping tatioone "the planet farthest from the birght center of the galaxy" to paraphrase Luke.  By making it the refuge where Owen, etc. flee to, it eliminates the question of, "why doesn't vader ever go back there?" 

But I def. like the idea of Anakin running off to become a Jedi, forsaking his family.  Perhaps then when he DOES try to reconcile, it goes badly, his temper flares, & his wife leaves him.

Vader prlly doesn't wanna go back there because of the memories. He, as far as i know, had imperial acadamy's there. Where u think Biggs and Wedge got their training?