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1. You often make the Darth Vader breathing sounds.
-Not often, but I have.

2. Someone you know thinks you are way too obsessed with Star Wars.
-Probably.

3. The next time you buyalcohol, you plan to say the following, even if you are not asked to show your ID: "You don't need to see my identification. I'm not the underage drinker you're looking for. I can go about my business. Move along."
-Should try that sometime.

4. You've seen trash cans that look like R2D2
-No, but I have seen CD players.

5. You listen to the Star Wars soundtracks more often than you listen to any other music
-SW, no. JW, yes!

6. During a conversation, someone says a word (ex: stench) and you start quoting Star Wars because of it.
-What an incredible smell you've discovered!

7. You often say "I have a bad feeling about this."
-Yep.

8. You think anyone who doesn't know that Vader is Luke's father has serious issues
-Where have they been, the cultural morons??

9. You've dressed up as a Star Wars character for Halloween
-No, but I should sometime in the future.

10. You've called someone a nerf herder
-...I think I have.

11. If you have them recorded from when they aired on TV, you have all the commercials memorized.
12. The Han-Jabba scene and "Jedi Rocks" serve as commercial breaks.

I have a bad feeling about this...
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Originally posted by: CO
When someone has the original SW at the bottom of their SW list of movies, and you begin to pull your hair out thinking they're the biggest moron cause they think any prequel is better than the original?


Well, it's third in my favorites:

ROTS
ESB
ANH
ROTJ
TPM
AOTC
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Well, ANH is third in my favorites


At least it is in your top three.

Anyone who honostly lists ANH at the bottom of their list (when compiling all 6 movies) isn't a true fan. Or worse, some sort of horrible new Star Wars breed that has been completely brainwashed by Lucas.

I can understand it not being #1 (I myself struggle to place ANH and ESB in the same slot), I can understand it not being #2. Hell, I'll even let it slide if you say it is your #4 if I really, really like you and take pity on you for placing a PT episode above a OT episode.

But putting it at #5, or right smack dab on hell's bottom #6. No, that I will not tolorate. You've got to reconsider your priorities if you've listed ANH that low on your list. And if you are lucky, I won't kick you in the shins.
"I am altering the movies. Pray I don't alter them any further." -Darth Lucas
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It amazes and saddens me too, that some people put Star Wars bottom of a list of Star Wars movies, and one reason they give it is boring, to me its the best, and I will always put it above Empire Strikes Back, as said many times before Empire is the better made film but Star Wars remains imo the one true all time Classic Lucas has directed, and i think many have said as now its Vaders story has ruined Star Wars partly as the film is clearly not his story but Lukes and Vader is just the villian.

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I think it's very strange, but true that many prequel fans think the original Star Wars is the worst Star Wars film! How can you be a Star Wars fan that doesn't like Star Wars?! It makes no sense! It's my second favorite, just behind Empire. What I don't get is how someone could think Star Wars is boring but Phantom Menace is not. I mean, what the heck is so exciting about trade disputes, villians that have little screen time, the bumbling fool Jar Jar Binks or all those scenes on Tatooine? What's so thrilling about the scenes with Padme or her stunt double in the Kabooke outfits talking in the monotone voice about politics? And what's so exciting about those lectures about the midichlorians? And where's all the humor? In the fart jokes? I dunno.

I think that the reason the first Star Wars appears to be so "boring" is because of that long stretch of scenes on Tatooine without a break. It's a lot to ask of kids to watch scene after scene after scene on Tatooine focusing on one part of the story. Maybe in the next special edition, Georgie will make the film more "exciting" by rediting like this...

-droids land on Tatooine and split up
-camera cuts to Coruscant to show tons of cool cgi graphics. Scenes with the Emperor are shown
-r2 is captured, 3PO finds the transport
-new scene with Vader on the Death Star talking to a hologram of Palpatine
-the droids reunite and get sold and chat with Luke
-Vader shown in his "bedroom" aboard the death star, where he is have dreams about Padme!
-Luke talks to his aunt and uncle, the binary sunset, finds out r2 has "run away"
-Vader has another conversation with the Emperor. Whines about having to take orders from Grandma Tarkin.
-Luke and 3po find r2, film continues as normal

maybe it would be easier for some people to pay attention if there were more scenery changes during this part of the film. Of course, that would ruin the movie even more, but that doesn't seem to matter to George........
George Lucas was seduced by the dark side. The OOT ceased to exist in his mind and became the Special Editions...." "They're more maching now than movies. Twisted and evil."
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Actually, (please don't flame me for this) I wouldn't mind some of that. It's great how it is, but, IMO, it would be great, storywise, if he added one or more scenes involving Palpatine and Coruscant. What would it hurt? If anything, it would help to better tie it in with TPM, AOTC, ROTS, ROTJ, and SOTE.
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But you see, the problem is - is that most of us don't WANT the OT to tie in with the PT. The PT sucks. And if the two trilogies were supposed to tie into each other (like they should have done) then Lucas should have done a better job with the PT. The OT came first. If the two trilogies don't match up, then it is the PT fault. If anything Lucas should go back and fix THOSE films rather than dick around with the classics.
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Well, I'm just saying that I wouldn't have a problem with him changing them around (and that includes any of the films). I honestly like to see these new ideas he has, and how he fits them in to his films.
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Originally posted by: JennyS1138
I think it's very strange, but true that many prequel fans think the original Star Wars is the worst Star Wars film! How can you be a Star Wars fan that doesn't like Star Wars?! It makes no sense! It's my second favorite, just behind Empire. What I don't get is how someone could think Star Wars is boring but Phantom Menace is not. I mean, what the heck is so exciting about trade disputes, villians that have little screen time, the bumbling fool Jar Jar Binks or all those scenes on Tatooine? What's so thrilling about the scenes with Padme or her stunt double in the Kabooke outfits talking in the monotone voice about politics? And what's so exciting about those lectures about the midichlorians? And where's all the humor? In the fart jokes? I dunno.

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I contend why the original SW is not loved by alot of PT fans cause it is the only SW episode that doesn't focus on the Skywalker family drama. They watch the movie looking for stuff that just isn't in there, and the result is watching it in the wrong context.

When I just watch the original SW, because to me it is the first episode, not TPM, because I don't recognize the PT, I watch it as a basic good vs evil story that is part 1 of a larger story with more to come. PT fans are looking for Vaders struggle, because to them the saga is about him, in the original, he is just some really cool bad guy. They are looking for little things among the twin Skywalker kids that will lead to the redemption of their father, and in this episode, Luke is making the moves on Leia, just as Han is.

They watch the lightsaber fight thinking it is too slow, or why doesn't Kenobi jump around like Dooku, they're both the same age? Because Lucas original idea was that the lightsaber was like an Excalibur sword where you needed two hands to swing it around, and it was very heavy. Not until ESB, did he change it that it could be perceived as lighter, when Vader fights Luke one handed.

They want Corucsant, Yoda, The Emperor, because they were the stars of the PT, pssst. None of these characters were invented yet. Only the emperor is mentioned by a single line in the movie.

The think the effects are outdated, the movie is slow, and the music is nothing like the other movies. Well Lucas vamped up the effects in the SE, and you're still not happy? Remember it is his vision! The movie is slow because it takes it time to introduce each character, making each one take them to the next characters as they finally all converge on the Death Star. And also, the imperial march wasn't invented yet either.

That is why I believe you should watch the order if you do 4-6,1-3, because you can experience the original for the standalone movie that it is and if you love it, then you can follow the drama of Darth Vader and rise, fall, and redemption. I don't begrudge anyone who doesn't love the original, I feel sorry for them, they are missing out on a true classic, it was loved by everyone in 1977, cause back then it was Star Wars, not the fourth episode of 6 that when watching it in order seems so out of left field from the prequels.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Well, I'm just saying that I wouldn't have a problem with him changing them around (and that includes any of the films). I honestly like to see these new ideas he has, and how he fits them in to his films.



Yeah, I know you do.

But back on topic:

You're a real deep fan when you can spot characters out of their normal character. Such as:

Jeremy Bulloch played Boba Fett, but he also played this Emperial guy too!
http://www.wattographs.com/shop/artwork/JeremyBulloch03.jpg

And that the guy who plays Dak (Luke's gunner in ESB) is also the same person that play's this guy in the Imperial walker that is trying to blow up himself...apparently
http://massassi.yavin4.com/sw_img/d5hoth77.jpg

(I have a hard time believing the last one, but it says so in my Behind the Magic CD-Rom. Dak looks way younger than the officer in the walker. Maybe it was Janson. I donno. But what I do know for a fact is that the Imperial walker commander dude is also one of the gunners in the snowspeeders.)

And that it is none other than Mark Hamill himself that says "The first transport is away! The first transport is away!"
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And that the guy who plays Dak (Luke's gunner in ESB) is also the same person that play's this guy in the Imperial walker that is trying to blow up himself...apparently
http://massassi.yavin4.com/sw_img/d5hoth77.jpg

(I have a hard time believing the last one, but it says so in my Behind the Magic CD-Rom. Dak looks way younger than the officer in the walker. Maybe it was Janson. I donno. But what I do know for a fact is that the Imperial walker commander dude is also one of the gunners in the snowspeeders.)

And that it is none other than Mark Hamill himself that says "The first transport is away! The first transport is away!"


General Veers and Dak are different actors you can check here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/fullcredits


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I knew about Jeremy Bulloch being Lt. Sumner -- his CCG card actually hints that he's Boba Fett's twin. Didn't know about those other two, though. Here's one -- Clive "Voice of the Emperor" Revill also did the voice of Gen. Dodonna in the CD-ROM edition of X-wing. My first Star Wars game, and still one of the best. Also, Carrie Fisher did the voice of Salacious Crumb in RotJ, but Lucas had someone else do Salacious's new lines for the SE.
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Originally posted by: Fat JediGeneral Veers and Dak are different actors you can check here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/fullcredits



I know, I looked it up too. But my CD-rom says something different. They even have a quote by the Imperial guy actor who said "It's funny. Here I am in this speeder and there I am again in this giant machine trying to bloody blow myself up!"
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You'll also know that all 3 of George Lucas's children are in Reveng of the Sith.

His eldest is with Bail Organa in the huge hallway as part of the greeting party for Obi-Wan and Anakin.

His second daughter has speaking lines, and is the fat blue thing during the Alliance meetings at Padme's place.

His son is the young Jedi on the landing platform that Bail is on that takes out a few Clone troopers before he is shot in the chest.

(And that all of his Kids were in the other two movies too. Again, a few with speaking lines.)
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His son is the young Jedi on the landing platform that Bail is on that takes out a few Clone troopers before he is shot in the chest.



Oh, so that's the point of that scene-- to give Luca$' son his screen time.

I have a bad feeling about this...
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Originally posted by: End Credits
Oh, so that's the point of that scene-- to give Luca$' son his screen time.


To be fair, I didn't know it was his son when I saw the movie. I only found out like a week ago. I though that the scene was pretty bad ass. I like that kid. Even if it wasn't his son, that scene should still be in the movie IMO. It shows that the Jedi weren't just bending over and taking it in the ass when it came to the extermination. He kills off 2 troopers before he is shot dead.

Lucas child or not, I still think that scene is cool. I was impressed with that character.
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
Originally posted by: End Credits
Oh, so that's the point of that scene-- to give Luca$' son his screen time.


To be fair, I didn't know it was his son when I saw the movie. I only found out like a week ago. I though that the scene was pretty bad ass. I like that kid. Even if it wasn't his son, that scene should still be in the movie IMO. It shows that the Jedi weren't just bending over and taking it in the ass when it came to the extermination. He kills off 2 troopers before he is shot dead.

Lucas child or not, I still think that scene is cool. I was impressed with that character.


And it showed that the younger Jedi could kick some serious ass as well!
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

And it showed that the younger Jedi could kick some serious ass as well!


And the other full-fledged jedi got killed very quickly and easly by the same clone troopers. That made lots of sense.
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Originally posted by: Number20
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

And it showed that the younger Jedi could kick some serious ass as well!


And the other full-fledged jedi got killed very quickly and easly by the same clone troopers. That made lots of sense.


I didn't say it made sense. I just said it was cool to see. This is Lucas we are talking about. Sense? Pffftt. Come on, what is that?
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
Originally posted by: Fat JediGeneral Veers and Dak are different actors you can check here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/fullcredits



I know, I looked it up too. But my CD-rom says something different. They even have a quote by the Imperial guy actor who said "It's funny. Here I am in this speeder and there I am again in this giant machine trying to bloody blow myself up!"


General Veers was played by Julian Glover, who also played Walter Donovan in "Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade".

Another ESB and "Last Crusade" parallel: Michael Sheard, who played Admiral Ozzel in ESB, and Hitler in "Last Crusade"

That whole post was typed without use of IMDb. How's that for geekage?

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Originally posted by: Number20
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

And it showed that the younger Jedi could kick some serious ass as well!


And the other full-fledged jedi got killed very quickly and easly by the same clone troopers. That made lots of sense.


Come on, we're using Star Wars logic here. That young Jedi can take out clones, just as a group of Ewoks can take out a legion of Palpatine's best troops.
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Oh yeah well how's this for nerdy. The guy that plays the Rebel base general from ESB (one of his lines was "You're a good fighter Solo. I'd hate to loose you." Anyway, he plays a role in a Fawlty Towers episode (1970's BBC comedy) and darn it if I didn't shout out, "Hey! The general from Star Wars is Vacationing in England!"

And for those of you playing along at home, the name of the episode was "Waldorf Salad" where he plays a very rude American vacationing in England.
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You mean General Rieekan, yes?

I wouldn't know his name if it weren't for the "Rogue Squadron" games.

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