Tiptup said:What disgusting cover art. And I don't like the prominence of Darth Vader in each; the original trilogy is not about Darth Vader. Bah.
Yeah, I couldn't get over that either. There's a large portrait of Darth Vader... and under that is a smaller full-body picture of Darth Vader! It just didn't seem too well thought out!
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Maybe it's the retailers that have asked for a boxset of the (existing) prequel DVDs ? Retailers do like selling us tons of boxsets for Christmas ! The prequels were one of the last movie series not available in a boxset, and it just make sense to repackage the Original Trilogy to go along the Prequel Trilogy boxset...
These aren't the DVDs we're looking for... Move along...
I was going to throw that out there too. This could just be a retail/distribution thing, not something from LFL itself.
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If these are the same disks but repackaged, this is going one confusing aisle when the buyer reaches the Star Wars Section:
Consumer: "OK, what I should I get my kids........They said they like Episode IV, V, and VI. Ok, I see there is a boxset from 2004 with Darth Vader on it.... no wait there is a boxset from 2005 with the Original Characters on it..... no wait they are sold individually from 2006..... no wait there is a boxset that came out this November. Excuse me sir, what is the difference between all of these sets?
Best Buy Guy: OK, you have the 2004 set, they are fully remastered, yet they couldn't get the lightsabers right, but they are the Special Editions, then you have the 2005 set, they are the same set without the bonus disk, then you have the 2006 set, which are the original versions along with the same set from 2004/2005, the problem is these original versions look like shit cause they are not remastered, then you have the 2008 set which are combo of the 2004/2005/2006 Special Editions which are fully remastered, but the lightsabers are wrong, and they are the special editions, along with the original versions that look like shit. Got it?
Consumer: Umm......maybe I'll take a pass on any SW stuff for my kid, where are the Pirates of the Caribbean DVD's?
Well, another year another Star Wars repackaging. It's genuinely hilarious that the only year they've skipped was the 30th anniversary. Maybe that was done out of respect.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I thought there had to be like, demand for a product to be released. The Star Wars Row at every Best Buy in town is as unchanging as Mt. Rushmore, if this is more of the exact same discs, I really don't get it.
Maybe the fan money will start to slow. This year alone, the Big Millennium Falcon, Force Unleashed, and Clone Wars tickets are 3 things that I didn't buy, but would have if this situation were taken care of. Hopefully the numbers will add up to the point somebody cares.
Baronlando said:I thought there had to be like, demand for a product to be released. The Star Wars Row at every Best Buy in town is as unchanging as Mt. Rushmore, if this is more of the exact same discs, I really don't get it.
Maybe the fan money will start to slow. This year alone, the Big Millennium Falcon, Force Unleashed, and Clone Wars tickets are 3 things that I didn't buy, but would have if this situation were taken care of. Hopefully the numbers will add up to the point somebody cares.
Yeah it's hard for Lucas to think of anything new to do for the movies when he's trying to evade everything we want.
Gaffer Tape said:Well, another year another Star Wars repackaging. It's genuinely hilarious that the only year they've skipped was the 30th anniversary. Maybe that was done out of respect.
LOL, Lucas decided his tyranny should be put on hold that year.
CO said:If these are the same disks but repackaged, this is going one confusing aisle when the buyer reaches the Star Wars Section:
Consumer: "OK, what I should I get my kids........They said they like Episode IV, V, and VI. Ok, I see there is a boxset from 2004 with Darth Vader on it.... no wait there is a boxset from 2005 with the Original Characters on it..... no wait they are sold individually from 2006..... no wait there is a boxset that came out this November. Excuse me sir, what is the difference between all of these sets?
Best Buy Guy: OK, you have the 2004 set, they are fully remastered, yet they couldn't get the lightsabers right, but they are the Special Editions, then you have the 2005 set, they are the same set without the bonus disk, then you have the 2006 set, which are the original versions along with the same set from 2004/2005, the problem is these original versions look like shit cause they are not remastered, then you have the 2008 set which are combo of the 2004/2005/2006 Special Editions which are fully remastered, but the lightsabers are wrong, and they are the special editions, along with the original versions that look like shit. Got it?
Consumer: Umm......maybe I'll take a pass on any SW stuff for my kid, where are the Pirates of the Caribbean DVD's?
You're giving the Best Buy guy waaaay to much credit. From my experience, the exchange would be more like this:
Consumer: What's the difference between all these sets?
BB Guy: This 2004 set is the full remastered special editions. The 2005 set is the same without the bonus disc. The 2006 set is the same as the 2004 set but it comes with the original versions as well. The 2008 set is the same as the 2006 set, but with a different package.
Consumer: Sounds like either the 2006 or 2008 set is the best one to get since it comes with the bonus disc and the only difference is the art. Thanks!
I'm not even sure if the BB guy would mention that they're special editions. More than likely, he wouldn't until stating the part about the originals, at which point, the consumer would probably ask "What do you mean originals? Aren't these other ones the originals?" Then they'd both notice the "Special Edition" on the package. I highly doubt a BB drone would mention anything about shotty lightsaber colors or a shitty looking DVD. In fact, I know of only one BB in my area, about 15 miles away, where the employees would know about that. I doubt they'd mention it though since it would be a guaranteed lost sale.
Other than that, you're probably right about them buying something else. The other thing a consumer might ask is "Do you have these in Blu-ray?". If not, it may still be a lost sale.
Consumer: "OK, what I should I get my kids........They said they like Episode IV, V, and VI. Ok, I see there is a boxset from 2004 with Darth Vader on it.... no wait there is a boxset from 2005 with the Original Characters on it..... no wait they are sold individually from 2006..... no wait there is a boxset that came out this November. Excuse me sir, what is the difference between all of these sets?
Best Buy Guy: OK, you have the 2004 set, they are fully remastered, yet they couldn't get the lightsabers right, but they are the Special Editions, then you have the 2005 set, they are the same set without the bonus disk, then you have the 2006 set, which are the original versions along with the same set from 2004/2005, the problem is these original versions look like shit cause they are not remastered, then you have the 2008 set which are combo of the 2004/2005/2006 Special Editions which are fully remastered, but the lightsabers are wrong, and they are the special editions, along with the original versions that look like shit. Got it?
Both: "Third base!"
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it might actually be wat we've been waiting for! why make each episode of the OT two discs? LOTR trilogy had two when they were expanded. The one difference between peter jackson and george lucas. btw, skyjedi2005, i liked clone wars and can't wait for the live action series.
Gaffer Tape said:Tiptup said:What disgusting cover art. And I don't like the prominence of Darth Vader in each; the original trilogy is not about Darth Vader. Bah.
Yeah, I couldn't get over that either. There's a large portrait of Darth Vader... and under that is a smaller full-body picture of Darth Vader! It just didn't seem too well thought out!
;)
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I love that struzan poster except it is based on a black and white empire strikes back still he had access to. And Luke and Vaders sabers are wrong colors.
you can see the cloud city platform stairs in the painting.
You can tell it is the scene from empire where Luke Walks up the stairs and ignites his saber after vader says "the Force is with you young skywalker, but you are not a jedi yet"
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
I agree with pretty much everyone else on this. If this has a good release (at least with anamorphic widescreen and good sound + picture quality) of the OOT I might buy it and if not, forget about it. I just hope it has it.
ESHBG said:Were the GOUT discs THX mastered?
They weren't labelled "THX", but the laserdiscs that were made from the same masters as the GOUT were labelled "THX", so yeah, but it's THX circa 1993....
THX doesn't really mean anything anymore anyway, since they came out with that whole "THX select" thing.
skyjedi2005 said: I love that struzan poster except it is based on a black and white empire strikes back still he had access to. And Luke and Vaders sabers are wrong colors. you can see the cloud city platform stairs in the painting. You can tell it is the scene from empire where Luke Walks up the stairs and ignites his saber after vader says "the Force is with you young skywalker, but you are not a jedi yet"
He did the same thing when he put an image of Leia from ESB on the '97 SW SE poster.
If these are real, it looks like a re-package of the '06 DVDs and the 2-disc PT DVDs. That would make sense seeing as there are tonns of them hanging around!
rcb said:it might actually be wat we've been waiting for! why make each episode of the OT two discs?
Uh, for the same reason they did so for the 2006 individual releases: to include both SE and Original Theatrical (2 discs) in a single package.
Folks, if you are even remotely hopeful that these will include the OOT in an improved state, you are lightyears more optimistic than i could ever be!
I have seen no reason to believe these aren't the 2006 discs in a new package.
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Yeah, I agree. I mean, just take a look at the marketing for the previous DVD sets. The press was huge for the '04 release because it was the first time Star Wars was on DVD. Then you have the '05 release. Did it get any press? No, because it was the '04 set in a different package. Then with the '06, it got plenty of attention too for several months because of the fact that it had the "theatrical versions." Now, aside from these pictures popping up a mere few months before the release, have you heard anything else about them? No. The pattern that has been forming indicates that this is simply another repackage. If it had been anything big, it would have been hyped up the wazoo.
Oh, and SilverWook, I guess you got me on that ROTJ poster.... ^_^
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Mielr said:
ESHBG said:Were the GOUT discs THX mastered?
They weren't labelled "THX", but the laserdiscs that were made from the same masters as the GOUT were labelled "THX", so yeah, but it's THX circa 1993....
THX doesn't really mean anything anymore anyway, since they came out with that whole "THX select" thing.
Okay, thanks, Mielr! I don't own them so I wasn't sure. But where I was going w/ that was if the GOUT was not labeled THX and this box is, it could be a strong indicator of remastered versions.
Unless it DOES have an anamorphic OOT, Gaffer Tape, in which case Luca$ would be his typical self and try to sabotage the sale of it.
THX lost any credibility the minute they starting using it on VHS movies. ;)
It's nice to have the test patterns and stuff they put on a DVD though.
Where were you in '77?
I think that if Lucas were gonna bite the bullet and really release the OOT the way it deserved, he might sneak it in to a set so that it might go unnoticed, so he wouldn't have to really make a fuss over it.
Of course, it would cause word of mouth and really rachet up the sales.
Or not. With Lucas, I know it's a trillion-to-one shot.
I can live with 80% of the SE additions. I even like the PT (overall). But not releasing the OOT in respectable condition? That's unacceptable.
To ESHBG and Doc, yeah, I thought about that too. It would seem very much like Lucas to try to bury news about an OOT release in order to sabotage it. But once again, think about the GOUT. I know occasionally they tried to pass off as the big selling point the fact that they were individually released, but all kinds of ads pointed to the fact that they were being released with the theatrical versions. So whatever George's exact feelings on a release of the OOT is, it didn't keep LFL's mouth shut back in 2006, so I really don't believe we can expect that this time around either. If there was a big, new transfer of the OOT, we would have heard about it by now.
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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Remember a year before the Blade Runner set came out, they quietly re-released the director's cut with a brand new transfer, I guess just to get some extra mileage out of said transfer. So, over in the non-Bizarro world (away from Star Wars) , these things do happen. But over there making a new transfer also isn't an act of total fucking exertion.
this is 2004 once more,
the '04 dvds has been repackages two times now....
GL and his crew would have to be the dumbest people in the world, if they think people will buy a third repackage.
If this is another repackage and no new changes, then GL may start to lose fans and money.
I have a feeling that the Prequel Trilogy box set will have new changes like TMP cgi yoda and so on...
I have been hearing for the past three years that GL and his crew are working on changes and it is four years after the '04 dvds.
GL and his crew have already said that they have release one too many times and the 30th anniversary box sets were held back.
I do have the feeling that these are the 30th anniversary box sets
Gaffer Tape says:
Yeah, I agree. I mean, just take a look at the marketing for the previous DVD sets. The press was huge for the '04 release because it was the first time Star Wars was on DVD. Then you have the '05 release. Did it get any press? No, because it was the '04 set in a different package. Then with the '06, it got plenty of attention too for several months because of the fact that it had the "theatrical versions." Now, aside from these pictures popping up a mere few months before the release, have you heard anything else about them? No. The pattern that has been forming indicates that this is simply another repackage. If it had been anything big, it would have been hyped up the wazoo.
I think that is all true, but The Clone Wars is the thing now, who knows about next month.
The Clone Wars is been marketed like Prequels. GL and his crew were trying to made Prequel-like money off The Clone Wars...
but then....
http://www.kpcnews.com/articles/2008/08/21/features/columnists/jenny_kobiela/hid21646sect_381068fa74cb830a96e.txt
The Clone Wars failed and people do not like it....
so, maybe GL and his crew are now falling on plan B.
Plan B: to release the new versions of the Prequel Trilogy and the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD.
think about: one week after The Clone Wars failed, now like magic we are hearing about new box sets.
think about 2: GL's The Clone Wars Christmas sale plans are gone, now like magic we are hearing about new box sets.
Gaffer Tape said:To ESHBG and Doc, yeah, I thought about that too. It would seem very much like Lucas to try to bury news about an OOT release in order to sabotage it. But once again, think about the GOUT. I know occasionally they tried to pass off as the big selling point the fact that they were individually released, but all kinds of ads pointed to the fact that they were being released with the theatrical versions. So whatever George's exact feelings on a release of the OOT is, it didn't keep LFL's mouth shut back in 2006, so I really don't believe we can expect that this time around either. If there was a big, new transfer of the OOT, we would have heard about it by now.
True, and Lucas wouldn't do it quietly to avoid looking like a hypocrite ("Oh, hey, turns out the last release wasn't the best quality! We just 'unearthed' original prints!"), because as we've seen in the past, he has no compulsion about putting his foot in his mouth for all to see.
I can live with 80% of the SE additions. I even like the PT (overall). But not releasing the OOT in respectable condition? That's unacceptable.
