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as i said before "bring my shuttle" is boring and too me sounded just weird and some of my fav scenes r him departing and arriving at his
destinations well thats just my opinion soooooooo neva diss thm cause i get real annoyed.
not that i'm angry at the moment
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"Bring my shuttle" is simple, powerful and effective. It's an iron fist that don't need no stinking velvet glove of a sentence. The crew of Executor should always be prepared for Vader's arrival anyway, they ought not need to be alerted. But by far the worst sin of the SE (at least in that section of the movie) is that all those little additional "Hey look, kids! It's Vader, and he's traveling! Wow, isn't his shuttle pretty?" shots disturb the flow and interrupt the music, so there's about 74.26% less tension and urgency in the scene and less relief when the heroes escape.
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Exactly. We get shots of Vader's stupid little shuttle in place of shots that, hmm, are arguably more important... such as Luke getting rescued.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Exactly. We get shots of Vader's stupid little shuttle in place of shots that, hmm, are arguably more important... such as Luke getting rescued.


No need for it, then to top it all we get a Death Star hangar with Moff Jerirriod in it, and some fans wonder why people complain about the Special Editions
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Contrary to popular belief, I think those shots were more of the "testing out CG ships for Phantom Menace" variety than telegraphing where Vader is every second, and they simply needed a scene to cap it off, which is that unused Return of the Jedi shot. It doesn't make it any less abysmal and stupid, but... I don't know.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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http://www.quartertofour.com/bloodynews/reviews/StarWars_retro01.html
www.bloodynews.com
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darth enzo nu said that they should be prepared 4 him already how the hell would they no that he is comin so of course he has to say "prepare 4 my arrival" or else he isn't goin to hav a group of people waiting 4 him................
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by the way gaffer tape shuttles are cool not stupid................

"alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival"
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No, no, no. Not the shuttle itself. The fact that it appears in a totally useless scene that's there because he was trying out digital ships and apparently some people can't figure out where the hell Vader goes and need it spelled out for them. Hence the line, "Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival." As if it's not already obvious enough. We can put two and two together. At least... most of us can.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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**Heavy sigh**

How would Executor know Vader was on the way? Easy. I'm sure that somewhere amongst the ion drives and turbolasers and deflector shields on the various ships there are identification transponders. When Vader's personal dropship leaves the command vessel, the vehicle traffic control officer monitors its position and status. When Vader says "bring my shuttle," the pilot signals the VTCO to announce their inbound status and verify a clear docking bay. That, or some very similar standard operating procedure, "alerts" the Star Destroyer to "prepare."

The Imperial fleet is a military organization and as such must operate in a state of continual readiness. Also, remember that Vader is a guy with a documented ability and habit of murdering people, even admirals and at great distances, for disappointing him. Thus there is a very real incentive to make sure that there is a proper docking crew and an officer to deliver any needed updates whenever he arrives.

D_V, the way you worded it, it almost sounds like Vader's in the limo telling his personal assistant to call his publicist and make sure there's a fawning entourage and cheering crowd lining the red carpet when he gets to Burger King.
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good points Darth Enzo,

i was thinking basically the same thing. he tells the people he's with to "bring his shuttle" they go get his shuttle and radio to the Executor to prepare a docking bay for Vader's arrival. Vader shouldnt have to spell ever little detail out for his 'staff' if your working directly for Vader you should be somewhat competent (otherwise he would have killed you by now)

but dont forget, his whopper should be ready at the drive through window when he pulls up

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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sory that just made no sense too me????????????????????????????


i'm going 2 stick by wot i said..............................................







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Wow! I'm convinced! Han really did shoot first! I can see it so much more clearly now!
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Congratulations. You've taken your first step into a larger world.

If only others were as open and receptive to the truth as you. **insert hand-waving Jedi smiley**
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greedo did shoot first but it wasn't a mistake that george lucas made.
greedo fired a WARNING SHOT to warn han that if he didn't give him the money then he would shoot him and of course han shot him after the warning shot.
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You are starting to sound like Lucas and one of his explanations!
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Warning shot? WARNING SHOT?!? Bwa-hahahahaha!

Nobody who intends to wait for a warning shot bothers to stealthily unholster their pistol underneath the table. Also, a gun pointed at your chest across said table is warning aplenty. And remember, warning shots are a tool of people who have no desire to shoot the person they've drawn on but may be required to do so if the target continues to act threateningly. Greedo stopped Solo on the way out of the bar and forced him back to the table. He had the upper hand, but wasn't smart enough to ensure he kept it by either disarming Han or forcing him to keep his hands atop the table.

Holy crap, if you weren't so frickin' pathetic you'd be hilarious.
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I have the SEs and love the O-O-T to bit but I can live with change and changes, but the problem with the SE changes is some are not executed well enough, and they get picked up by some of the fans, for example the changes on Yavin 4 and D.S battle well executed changes in my opinion rarely if never heard a complaint about them, the ending of Jedi I feel better than Yub Nub,hardly hear a complaint about the celebration scenes on the different planets I feel the Wampa ok addition the new sandcrawler, stormtrooper hangar, and stormtroopers on dewbacks not bad addtions etc, It is stuff like Greedo and as mentioned the shuttle scene (again I can live with Shuttle scenes, but I feel the hangar needs to be unique and Moff Jerriord removed and is stuck in a silly place) and the ghost no problem understand why, performance lets it down, another example Temeuras voice good change for continuty not muffled enough maybe better delivery, these things bring the SEs down in some fans eyes. makes people reject them and increases the clamour for the O-O-T. Its Impossible to get the changes all perfect but I feel the inconsistency lets them down and gives the fans reason to complain and pick up on the faults.......
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Yeah, warning shot... That does sound like the kind of explanation that George would come up with.

Too bad we already know it's because he wanted to make Han the kind of character who wouldn't kill someone in cold blood unless he was shot at first.

Or maybe it's simply because the technology of 1977 couldn't have two laser blasts come so quickly together, so they had to axe one of them, and poor Greedo was chosen as the victim. ^_~

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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well thats what i read in the original chapter book of starwars episode 4 so i guess it was a warning shot?
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Hey guys, I'm new here. Anyway I grew up on the OT and I think the worst addition is the Jabba scene in ANH. As others have stated, the conversation is pretty much a reiteration of everything we just learned in the Greedo/Han scene. Even if Jabba looked great and "you're a wonderful human being" was funny, it would still be a useless scene. Second worst is greedo firing first. I also don't care for the wacky goings-on as we enter mos eisley. I ALSO don't care for the "musical number" in Jedi...I remember when I first heard "Lapti Nek" was being replaced, I was like, "good, that sucked." Little did I know it was about to be replaced with something 10 timed suckier. Actually that's probably the worst addition, it just doesn't weaken the movie that much because the thing it's replacing was already bad.
can't you shut that chicken up?