Your all italics reply to me came across as very condescending. If you want a nice discussion, you should probably be nice, too.
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Italics aside, the naivety comment was definitely a snarky one. I don’t think it went anywhere near overstepping boundaries, but it’s totally reasonable to expect a snarky response after that, without considering anything derailed. No big deal, IMO.
Edit: Oh, I guess I missed the reference or attempted reference.
Your all italics reply to me came across as very condescending. If you want a nice discussion, you should probably be nice, too.
Ok, you know what ? Well… sorry about that, I don’t usually mean to be condescending (when I do it’s more obvious), only to stress parts that I consider pivotal in my post (I happen to think it’s more lively to do so). The reply about “charming naivety” was in italics because it was a movie reference (possible I have misquoted it… as a matter of fact I have totally misquoted the reference). And it was a reply to quite an expeditive one you’ve made… and you eventually provided a more complete reply afterwards.
So Frank, if it’s ok between the two of us we can consider this incident close. No hard feelings! And I hope I’m wrong about this all Lucasfilm/Disney thing so we’ll be getting the OOT in glorious 4k quality some other day !
edit: @towne32
Thanks dude !
It’s alright. I didn’t recognize the quote, so I may have taken it the wrong way. And yeah, I didn’t think you were going too far with that, just like my reply to it wasn’t meant to go too far.
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Sorcerer’s Stone, limey. Us 'Murricans are too smart to waste our time philosophizing like fruitcakes.
I’m an “'Murrican”, lol. I call it by it’s original name because I appreciate that J.K.Rowling has stated that allowing Scholastic to strong-arm her into retitling her debut novel to make it more marketable in the U.S. is one of her biggest regrets. Unlike George, she values the sanctity of her original work.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Fang Zei said:
The new films are trying very consciously to recapture that OT feel. A release of the OOT by the time Ep9 hits theaters would only make sense.Really ? Last time i’ve checked there was a CGI Falcon and a CGI main character in TFA. I’m not really convinced by the “OT feel” that would prove Disney’s gonna release the OOT. Mainstream audience watch the bluray and don’t complain about these versions.
What will they come up with to sell the 4k UHD release?
Well, the answer is in the question: the 4k UHD release will contain… 4k picture quality and awesome sound. This is enough to sell it.
Now the fact is that the original prints are still somewhere in Lucasfilm’s vault. Otherwise they can’t make a 4k release (ie a 8k restoration). Or else they can use the 1997 SE prints (it was released in theaters, I guess the definition of the print is higher than 2k, right ?), and then they would need to “refresh” every CGI special effect (Paramount did it with ST-TNG, Disney has the money to do so). But at this point, they will also need to change the colors to match Lucas canon version, so… hum… not sure the OOT would be given as a “bonus”, but at least there is a slight chance that the 1997 version ends up being in an anniversary boxset… which would still be a gift for DE edition since they are way closer to the original versions than the 2004/2011 releases are…
As a matter of fact, Disney once released a very shitty version of “Beauty and the beast” as well as an extended version of “Lion King”. But the original (and far better) versions have been released in bluray; the extended cut of “Lion King” is even nowhere to be seen in bluray I think (but a few minor alterations are still present if I remember correctly). Disney is not exactly “snow white” for its own video releases (“Song of the South” anyone ? Bad movie but I love the animated parts, still they don’t want to release it… like Lazy Lucas does not want to release the OOT in a proper way…), so I woulnd’t exactly count on their alleged “cinephilia” or “OT respect” to actually deliver the original cuts…
Difficult to see, the future is…
I beg to differ.
Maybe I’m underestimating how much demand there would be for a 4k disc release of the altered version, but I seriously doubt there would be anywhere near as much enthusiasm this time around as there was with the blu-rays, nevermind the dvds.
If they have to do a fresh scan of the film elements in order to produce a 4k version (and they do), then they might as well spend the time and money restoring the original versions - and maybe also the '97 versions - as well.
A 4k uhd release of Force Awakens is an inevitability. Maybe we’ll see that one on the format first like we did with TPM on dvd. Hell, I could see things mirroring the dvd releases to a T and them putting out the original three (complete with the other versions) on 4k before Ep9 hits theaters.
Disney - or at the very least Lucasfilm - can’t pretend they don’t know what we want. The People vs George Lucas documentary couldn’t have spelled it out any clearer: Close Encounters did it, Blade Runner did it. Why the hell can’t Star Wars?
I think that 4K blu rays will be a niche market in the same way that Laserdisc was, especially once the new wears off. I have no interest in getting a 4K TV and a 4K blu ray player just so I can re=buy all of the movies that I already own blu ray copies of.
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The other problem is there are many films that were only ever finished at 2K resolution. Why pay more money for an upscale?
If my current HD set dropped dead, I would definitely look at a 4K set now that the prices are coming down.
Where were you in '77?
SilverWook said:
Why pay more money for an upscale?
HDR.
I’m still confident will be getting the OOT on Blu-ray by next year. Don’t want to sound disrespectful, but with George Lucas out of the picture, it will be easier for Lucasfilm, Disney, and Fox to release the trilogy (maybe the original Saga) unaltered for DVD/Blu-ray properly.
I hope they also release it on VHS pan & scan.
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I’m still confident will be getting the OOT on Blu-ray by next year. Don’t want to sound disrespectful, but with George Lucas out of the picture, it will be easier for Lucasfilm, Disney, and Fox to release the trilogy (maybe the original Saga) unaltered for DVD/Blu-ray properly.
But it certainly feels like they’re trying not to piss off George, even if there’s nothing legally preventing them from doing so. The man is now one of their biggest shareholders after all, so maybe they do have reason to stay within his good graces despite having bought his company fair and square.
I know this is the umpteenth time I’ve brought it up, but the smartest way to handle this is to basically do what Blade Runner did and put together a “final” version of the movie in 4k while also remastering the older versions. Indeed, it shouldn’t just be the OOT, but the original saga … and the '97 version of the OT thrown in as well. Hell, they could even follow the Blade Runner model to a T and branch the '04 and '11 versions onto the '97 disc if they really wanted to (although they would have to agree on a color grade and sound mix for the vast majority of the movie that they otherwise share in common. Honestly I wouldn’t miss the '04 and '11 versions at all if they were absent, and the “final” version will probably replicate most of those changes anyway). That’s the middle disc, and the first and last discs would be the final and unaltered versions, respectively.
Kathleen Kennedy could bring in George to have his final say on what he wants changed (or maybe even changed back, see: Luke’s screaming fall in Cloud City) while bringing in someone like Robert A Harris to supervise a definitive restoration of the unaltered versions. The prequels wouldn’t even need multi-disc releases, just seamless branching for each movie, and hopefully a color-grade for AOTC closer to how it actually looked. Us OOT/OPT fans finally get what we want, George gets to finish his I-VI saga (giving the SE fans reason to buy yet another release), the copyright owners make their money and we all go home winners.
It seems they’ll be screening A New Hope today. Still hoping its the theatrical
It seems they’ll be screening A New Hope today. Still hoping its the theatrical
Where and why?
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Celebration Europe
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
The screening would’ve just ended a few minutes ago …
Huh, I had no idea it was happening. Let’s hope, but I doubt they’d screen it as a surprise.
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darthrush said:
It seems they’ll be screening A New Hope today. Still hoping its the theatrical
Already by definition it isn’t.
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From Bill Hunt (of thedigitalbits.com fame in case he needed any introduction), just a couple hours ago:
“File this in the category of rumor, but word coming out of Star Wars Celebration in London is that Disney and Lucasfilm may be preparing a new Star Wars Blu-ray box set, planned for release in time for the holidays, that includes Episodes IV, V, VI, and VII. And VII will include the long-awaited Blu-ray 3D version. We’ll post any official details as they arrive.”
Could be something, could be same old same old. Who knows.
Just thought I’d share.
If that’s the case, maybe we’ll hear something at tomorrow’s panel.
Edit: if this is indeed true, unless there’s some kind of new offering like OUT our 4k, there will be no demand for a new OT set at this point after last fall’s releases.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
From Bill Hunt (of thedigitalbits.com fame in case he needed any introduction), just a couple hours ago:
“File this in the category of rumor, but word coming out of Star Wars Celebration in London is that Disney and Lucasfilm may be preparing a new Star Wars Blu-ray box set, planned for release in time for the holidays, that includes Episodes IV, V, VI, and VII. And VII will include the long-awaited Blu-ray 3D version. We’ll post any official details as they arrive.”
Could be something, could be same old same old. Who knows.
Just thought I’d share.
Very interesting. Where can I find this comment?
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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Click read more on the latest post
Found it!
Hopefully it includes the original versions of IV V & IV
Don’t know if people are willing to spend the money to re buy three films just to own a 3D version of
The Force Awakens. Not a lot of people have interest in 3D Blu-Rays anyhow. Hopefully this is the release John Landis was hinting to last September. Fingers crossed.
This is the first time Bill Gates has commented on this in almost two years.
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This is the first time Bill Gates has commented on this in almost two years.
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