Why was the '04 DVD set such a botched release? — Page 7

kenkraly2007 said:

I have to admitt I was wrong I've watched the dvd of Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope and all of you are right the sound is messed. I am sorry I was claming everybuddy wrong. You all arr right and I was wrong. I just hope when the blu-ray version comes out the audio on Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope is fixed.

 In his defense, in another thread he did admit that on closer examination he realised it is screwed up after all.

ZigFried

kenkraly2007 said:

Everyone STOP MAKING FUN OF ME.

you come in here and insult a lot of people who know what they are talking about, but even after you have been informed about the problems you still say we need our eyes checked. But when its thrown back at you you can't take it. Just grow up. You're supposed to be 24 years old but you write & act  like a pre-teen. Big deal. you admit now that the audio is messed up but still say the colours are fine. Yeh, neon Yoda, totally blue Hoth, Vaders pink lightsabre have always been the correct colours. It is you that needs your eyes tested, not us. You were given information on how you could see for yourself the true colour of the Star Wars OT saga but you ignored it and still spouted off like you were trying to convert everyone to your way of thinking. Do you think you are god or something?Now you're asking where you can get a corrected copy of the DVD's? But i thought you said we should all be happy with the commercial DVD's? Don't be too surprised if no one helps you with that after the crap you spouted to all of us.

You gave no one here any respect and tried to force your view of the DVD's upon us as if we should all bow down to your infinite wisdom and now you're crying like a baby for everyone to stop taking the mickey out of you. Sorry mate, but you have no one else to blame apart from yourself.

The real question is, how do people accept such lousy quality releases and act dumb founded when others don't like it?

Ever heard the phrase, "The customer is always right"? LFL apparently has not. From a company with a reputation such as LFL's, you would expect quality product, regardless of a crappy PT, their physical products have always been solid. Seemingly they, or George, has decided they are above the necessity of making quality products, and strangely, they have a massive army of people who seem as if they would defend them to the death on their decision.

Makes sense people like us would complain to hell and back about a DVD set featuring only the special edition, and not even the special edition we knew, but an even more special special edition. We'd sift through the thing with a fine toothed comb and fine the tiniest flaws to rip it apart with, but the errors don't take a fine toothed comb, they are glaring! It seems like people who were perfectly fine with the PT and the SE ought to take offense to such a poorly done release. It is a huge insult to anyone who spend their money on it really. A recall should have been issued.

When the Back to the Future Trilogy was released it suffered from some minor matting issues, and yet Universal saw fit to immediately fix the problem, and allow unsatisfied customers to have their sets replaced. Why did they do this? Because people noticed the errors and complained about them, and Universal cared about their customers. Notice how there is not a site that is dedicated to finding the highest quality version of the Back to the Future trilogy that nitpicks the crap out of the errors that were made on the DVD release? One doesn't exist, because there is nothing left to complain about, it was fixed. People don't shut up about the crappy 04 release of SW, because it has been rererereleased and it STILL has the glaring errors glaring as bright as ever.

LFL's mistakes were FAR more serious than the issues with the BTTF trilogy, and all they saw fit to do was give people the middle finger by saying that all the errors were creative decisions, that apparently only applied to the English language track :). I for one feel that making Luke's saber change colors was a very bold and kick ass creative decision to make. I was kind of hoping Revenge of the Sith would explain the deeper significance to changing of the blade's colors, and was disappointed to see that it was not addressed. I am sure Lucas has a very good reason for this, I can't wait to hear what it is though... four years and still not a word about it...

kenkraly2007 said:

I have different opinions ok. I am a not a super uber star wars geek like most people. And I don't belive in pirated dvds or leagle dvds to make. If it rubs people the wrong way then I'm sorry. So I ask one more time stop making fun of me ok. You bunch of people that make fun of other people with different opinions.

God, you just don't get it do you? Its nothing to do with you having different opinions at all. You were rude and obnoxious and tried to tell everyone that we should be happy with the crappy 2004 just because you were.  And now you call us all Geeks? Wow, you know how to win over people don't you. I guess you use your personality as a form of contraception. Also you make no sense with your posts whatsoever. You say don't believe in pirate or legal DVD's so what other sort is there? Do tell with your infinite wisdom, oh great master.

Start treating people with respect and you'll get it back. Come to a thread and start telling people what they should believe and you'd just get shat upon. (and yes i did spell that correctly). many people here have lots of different opinions and never get flamed for it so your argument is out the window, i'm afraid.

adywan said:

I guess you use your personality as a form of contraception.

That was pretty funny.

Ken, I have nothing against you, and sorry people treated you rudely, but I think if you go back and reread this whole thread with an honest eye, you might notice that you deserved it.

Around here we are fine with people who have different opinions from our own. You don't get banned for being for or against Lucas, or for loving or hating the PT, SE, EU, FU or whatever. This is a very tolerant place. You are free to have your opinions, and we respect your opinions. But it works both ways pal. We are such a tolerant bunch, that we come full circle to being very intolerant of intolerance. Make sense? You come in here being intolerant of other people's dislike of the '04 DVDs and told them quite rudely, to "shut up". Can we all agree that that was a decidedly intolerant thing to do? This is why people made fun of your posts.

It isn't too late to cut your losses and start over, we can be pretty forgiving around here. We'd be happy to have you stick around if you can play nice. But if you continue to tell others to "shut up" for voicing their opinions, you are not going to be very popular around these parts.

kenkraly2007 said:

Allright I am sorry if made people mad on this forum. Please forgive me. I won't make such posts like that again.

Sounds just like ZigFried.

Maybe we should try sending a letter to LFL to see what kind of response we get. Just asking them why the colors changed from the '97 SE. It would be interesting what their PR department comes up with.

I wonder if there's any way to get an honest answer as to whether it was something to do with Lowry restoration algorithms running rampant, or LFL trying to 'modernise' the look but doing it half-assed.

Bobocop said:

Maybe we should try sending a letter to LFL to see what kind of response we get. Just asking them why the colors changed from the '97 SE. It would be interesting what their PR department comes up with.

I wonder if there's any way to get an honest answer as to whether it was something to do with Lowry restoration algorithms running rampant, or LFL trying to 'modernise' the look but doing it half-assed.

Don't waste your time. If they can't come clean about the audio issues ("deliberate creative decision"), they won't address the real color issues. Any answer you get will be BS. But I do recall reading somewhere recently that Lowry only handled grain reduction and image cleaning, not coloration.

There is a small part of me that has wondered if the darkening was done to compensate for the overly-bright settings most people use on their TVs. Not that that's acceptable, but at least it's a plausible reason.

I remember a time when I used to have the utmost respect for George Lucas. Sad.

Bobocop said:

Maybe we should try sending a letter to LFL to see what kind of response we get. Just asking them why the colors changed from the '97 SE. It would be interesting what their PR department comes up with.

It would probably be something to the effect of "It was a deliberate creative decision by George Lucas" which was the reason for the audio being messed up too.

I was thinking more along the lines of "If the colors do not appear to be correct, then please use the THX optimizer included on your DVD"