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Why all the negative coments about george lucas? — Page 2

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Yeah, in a lot of ways, the prequels, if you look hard enough, don't really represent the Jedi in a very good light at all, to the point where you feel it's good that they were wiped out. But having lowered myself to watching them in George's order (I feel I can't complain if I haven't tried it), it actually makes me a little bit sick that the Jedi return in the "last" movie if they return as the same egotistical assholes they were in the prequels.

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Originally posted by: Scruffy I think any attempt to find political or moral messages in the PT is doomed to failure. Any indicator of such a message is so muddled that it could be interpreted as

a) poorly handled nuance, or

b) poorly handled superficial exposition.



I agree and it’s sad because that was not always the case with Star Wars. I know many people try to read political messages into everything coming out of Hollywood, but that isn’t my style. The Anakin/Obi-Wan exchange just reeked of political motives to me. It’s as if George was trying to tell the rest of the industry, “Look I know I haven’t always agreed with all of you and I’m considered a maverick, but I still hate Republicans so please love me and let me win some awards for my CG.”

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape Yeah, in a lot of ways, the prequels, if you look hard enough, don't really represent the Jedi in a very good light at all, to the point where you feel it's good that they were wiped out. But having lowered myself to watching them in George's order (I feel I can't complain if I haven't tried it), it actually makes me a little bit sick that the Jedi return in the "last" movie if they return as the same egotistical assholes they were in the prequels.


Another valid point. Based on the OT I saw the Jedi as above politics, above dogma and above many of the other trappings that keep us mere mortals occupied. There was the force, the force was truth and to use it for personal gain was like stealing money from the offering plate at church. Then George ignores the entire EU (you know the one he approved) and forbids marriage for the Jedi. I can’t decide if that was George taking a hit at the RCC, shitty writing or an excuse to allow an EU author to write another book to explain the discrepancies between the Old Jedi Order (say prior to 1000BBY) and the PT Jedi Order. Unfortunately I think the later two options are closer to the truth.


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Lucas has brought most of this on himself. Unlike Spielberg, Cameron, etc., he INSISTS on forcing the SE down our throats. I really thinks he takes the fans for granted, and I'm sure that those of us who prefer the OOT annoy him to no end.

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Originally posted by: Mielr
Lucas has brought most of this on himself. Unlike Spielberg, Cameron, etc., he INSISTS on forcing the SE down our throats. I really thinks he takes the fans for granted, and I'm sure that those of us who prefer the OOT annoy him to no end.


See, that's the thing that I think angers a lot of people. Lucas is entitled to do whatever he wants to the films he owns. Fans criticize Lucas because he continues to state the OOT does not exist. I cannot think of any other filmaker who wants to surpress a version of their own work so badly. I don't hate Lucas. Why would I? For all I know, he may very well be a nice man. I just want a high quality copy of the OOT on DVD with crisp anamorphic widescreen and booming sound form the original mixes, like 99.99% of the DVDs which have been released. I also want this version to be made available on HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, and future home video formats so that I am given a choice about which version to watch. People criticize Lucas because he wants to surpress these versions of the films. People criticize him because he does not want to make these version availible to the viewing public, many of whom prefer them. I never said it was my movie. But I love the original version of it, and want a high quality release of the OOT. Lucas does not want to make this available when he is capable of doing so. Therefore, people criticize him. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Alien, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Aliens, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Alien 3, Vanishing Point, Alien Resurrection, The Abyss, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, E.T. The Extraterrestrial, Apocalypse Now, Blade Runner, Brazil, Braindead, and The Leopard, are all available in multiple versions, among others. Why not three of the most popular and influential films ever made? That, I think, is why people criticize George Lucas.

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