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Why does Kylo wear a helmet if he doesn’t need one and it is never established before in the saga that bad guys must be helmeted?
Because Darth Vader wore one.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
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And to embellish, because he idolizes Vader.
Not sure why that question is in this thread though.
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Not sure why that question is in this thread though.
Just be grateful he didn’t create a new thread to ask the question.
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And to embellish, because he idolizes Vader.
Not sure why that question is in this thread though.
It might make a point. We are to accept that Kylo is not a cheap recycling of elements of Anakin/Vader because he indeed does copy Vader but he does so in-universe, which is something no other character has done before.
So to have a character be a fan of other character would basically be a legitimate reason for it being a recycled element/rehash/heavily inspired element/whatever word you might call it, while it makes a somewhat logic argument for defending it if you liked the movie, because there is a diegetical statement that establishes this.
Forced as it might be, from an diegetical point of view there can’t be further development of the discussion. However, I honestly wonder if you really think that this was done inocently, or if it probably is the deliberate product of a reunion/meeting what went more or less like this:
-we need a vader like character to play the cool villain role you know, cool helmet, cool voice modulator, who doesn’t speak much and is a little unpredictable
-yeah, can’t we make Vader come back from death?
-nope, they’re gonna complain
-what if he torments the protagonist from beyond the grave?
-nope, he died being a good guy. Vader’s story is closed. We need another guy.
-what if he is a Vader impersonator because the Empire didn’t want his death to be known of?
-nope, that would be cheap
-what if it’s a guy that idolises him…and this way you would have a vader-like character yet with a good explanation?
Because if you agree that probably it indeed went that way then deep in your thoughts you know it is intended to be a repetion of elements shielded by a convincing argument, but a repetition nonetheless. And we are only having a semantic argument about what qualifies as rehash/recycling and what does not, because we would agree that the intention was for it to be as conservative and as market-safe as it could posibly be. Which does as well answer to the main question of this topic, why doesn’t the Resistance have Tie Fighters.
They took too literally the “take Star Wars back to its basics” claim on the internet.
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Kylo Ren is in no way Vader-like. He’s a chihuahua, all bark and no bite.
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Does he have a slow-witted cat roommate/boyfriend?
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And to embellish, because he idolizes Vader.
Not sure why that question is in this thread though.
It might make a point. We are to accept that Kylo is not a cheap recycling of elements of Anakin/Vader because he indeed does copy Vader but he does so in-universe, which is something no other character has done before.
So to have a character be a fan of other character would basically be a legitimate reason for it being a recycled element/rehash/heavily inspired element/whatever word you might call it, while it makes a somewhat logic argument for defending it if you liked the movie, because there is a diegetical statement that establishes this.
Forced as it might be, from an diegetical point of view there can’t be further development of the discussion. However, I honestly wonder if you really think that this was done inocently, or if it probably is the deliberate product of a reunion/meeting what went more or less like this:
-we need a vader like character to play the cool villain role you know, cool helmet, cool voice modulator, who doesn’t speak much and is a little unpredictable
-yeah, can’t we make Vader come back from death?
-nope, they’re gonna complain
-what if he torments the protagonist from beyond the grave?
-nope, he died being a good guy. Vader’s story is closed. We need another guy.
-what if he is a Vader impersonator because the Empire didn’t want his death to be known of?
-nope, that would be cheap
-what if it’s a guy that idolises him…and this way you would have a vader-like character yet with a good explanation?Because if you agree that probably it indeed went that way then deep in your thoughts you know it is intended to be a repetion of elements shielded by a convincing argument, but a repetition nonetheless. And we are only having a semantic argument about what qualifies as rehash/recycling and what does not, because we would agree that the intention was for it to be as conservative and as market-safe as it could posibly be. Which does as well answer to the main question of this topic, why doesn’t the Resistance have Tie Fighters.
They took too literally the “take Star Wars back to its basics” claim on the internet.
Who cares if they did though? The movie was still good and the character is still interesting.
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Who cares if they did though? The movie was still good and the character is still interesting.
For you, sure, as someone said to me.
I find the movie just entertaining, but with a distinct no-risk-marketing-product flavour that makes it unwatchable next to the OT. The character, I didn’t find him particularly interesting in TFA. VIII can correct this, or can make it worse depending on how repetitive they will be of the scheme that rules the original trilogy.
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Who cares if they did though? The movie was still good and the character is still interesting.
For you, sure, as someone said to me.
I find the movie just entertaining, but with a distinct no-risk-marketing-product flavour that makes it unwatchable next to SW & TESB. The character, I didn’t find him particularly interesting in TFA. VIII can correct this, or can make it worse depending on how repetitive they will be of the scheme that rules the original trilogy.
FTFM
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Which does as well answer to the main question of this topic, why doesn’t the Resistance have Tie Fighters.
Ah, so “Why Doesn’t the Resistance have Tie Fighters in The Fore Awakens” is meant to actually ask “Why is The Fore Awakens a shitty crap rehash of Store Wars”
Interesting theory.
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Ah, so “Why Doesn’t the Resistance have Tie Fighters in The Fore Awakens” is meant to actually ask “Why is The Fore Awakens a shitty crap rehash of Store Wars”
Interesting theory.
Ad absurdum. Move along, move along.
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Does he have a slow-witted cat roommate/boyfriend?
If certain stranger, slash-ier parts of the SW fanbase are to be trusted, that’s the redheaded general.
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The “Fore Awakens” is that a golf movie?
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The “Fore Awakens” is that a golf movie?
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Why does Kylo wear a helmet if he doesn’t need one and it is never established before in the saga that bad guys must be helmeted?
There can be a psychological aspect to wearing the helmet.
Where were you in '77?
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Why does Kylo wear a helmet if he doesn’t need one and it is never established before in the saga that bad guys must be helmeted?
There can be a psychological aspect to wearing the helmet.
Also he looks like a goofy kid without it. With it he can be tough and intimidating and channel his idol all day.
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Beyond the imitate Vader answer, I think the movie makes abother reason obvious: because Kylo, helmeted, looks like a kid. The helmet is for intimidation.
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Beyond the imitate Vader answer, I think the movie makes abother reason obvious: because Kylo, I helmeted, looks like a kid. The helmet is for intimidation.
Dammit Dom.
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Urghh
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And to expand on that, it’s extremely disarming to us viewers when he does takes the helmet off for the first time.
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Helmet or not, he is rather pathetic villain.
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That’s the whole point of the character.
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Helmet or not, he is rather pathetic villain.
We’re trying to have a discussion here…
Anywho, I think Kylo is highly ashamed of his looks as well. Do you guys remember how he reacted to Hux coming in on him without his mask. It’s like he got caught with his pants down whereas Vader shrugged off Admiral Piette seeing the back of his burnt head.
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I love the dynamic between Hux, Ren, and Snoke.
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That’s the whole point of the character.
Well considering he is the main villain, that is bad.
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