Why Didn't Qui Gon Gin's Body Disappear Like Obiwan's and Yoda's? — Page 4

SilverWook said:

Of course they should have used the army. But do a little digging on them in the meantime. (A throwaway line about following the money trail could have helped, even if Palpatine has the equivalent of a Swiss bank account.) The bomb won’t go off if you safely remove the fuse.

There’s just too much plot convenience playhouse going on that benefits the bad guys. Nobody ever pays Palpatine a visit when he’s got the black hood on and making a long distance call. (Would be really funny if he was addressing his minions from a locked bathroom.) Is there a Sith lord in the house? Who knows, our ability to use the Force is diminished. (Yet Yoda can sense Anakin opening a can of Dark Side on the Sandpeople light years away.) Dooku can’t possibly be behind the attempts to kill Padme, it’s not in his nature. Oh wait! He’s evil now!

One of the funniest bits in Frink’s AOTC edit is Mace and Yoda contradicting themselves on the “Who authorized the clone army?” thing. Cracks me up every time. 😉

1. Yet again, digging/asking questions would do nothing. They NEED the army.
2. What does their ability to use the force being diminished have to do with sensing Anakin?
   Diminished doesn’t mean gone, and as the Jedi with the most concentrated source of the force, Anakin would make waves in the force when committing an atrocity.

Don’t see how the hood thing is an issue either. Is wearing a hood a crime?
I have to say, most of these issues aren’t really issues at all. More like intentional misreadings. “Diminished” is a word that means “made smaller or less”.

SilverWook said:

But they can’t sense the Sith Lord sitting across from them.

If you’re wearing a black hood, calling yourself Lord Sidious, and you’re making a collect hologram call to the Sepratists, that’s kind of suspicious. Lego Star Wars made a joke about Palpatine forgetting to take the hood off in front of the Jedi.

I don’t understand. He’s not making these calls with the Jedi in the room.

As for why they can’t sense him, they do sense the dark side of the force around the Chancellor. But It’s a far cry from “he’s an unsavory man” to “the guy running the galaxy is also the Sith lord we’ve been hunting”.

It’s called hiding in plain sight.

People just love movies with stupid characters.

I’m 80% certain Chlorine is PTOTST AKA swagmasta. Look at the date he joined; same date PTOTST was banned.

Alderaan said:

People just love movies with stupid characters.

Here’s a question for you. Luke uses force super speed when escaping the carbonite pit.
Why does he never use it again?
Why doesn’t he use it to jump past Vader on the catwalk?
Why doesn’t he use it to get back in the tube when the hatch is closing after the fight?

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m 80% certain Chlorine is PTOTST AKA swagmasta. Look at the date he joined; same date PTOTST was banned.

I thought so too.

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

SilverWook said:

Chlorine said:

SilverWook said:

But they can’t sense the Sith Lord sitting across from them.

If you’re wearing a black hood, calling yourself Lord Sidious, and you’re making a collect hologram call to the Sepratists, that’s kind of suspicious. Lego Star Wars made a joke about Palpatine forgetting to take the hood off in front of the Jedi.

I don’t understand. He’s not making these calls with the Jedi in the room.

As for why they can’t sense him, they do sense the dark side of the force around the Chancellor. But It’s a far cry from “he’s an unsavory man” to “the guy running the galaxy is also the Sith lord we’ve been hunting”.

It’s called hiding in plain sight.

Or it’s the Jedi can’t solve a mystery over ten years that the Scooby Doo gang could figure out in 20 minutes?

If the President of the USA was secretly Cobra Commander, you don’t think a scheduling conflict might arise while he’s wearing the blue outfit with the cool helmet? Being a president or the Chancellor of the Republic is like living in a bubble, you don’t go to the bathroom without someone knowing your whereabouts. Yet Palpatine can sneak off long enough to go to an abandoned building on the rough side of Coruscant.

Of course, this is the prequels, where the window blows out of Palpatine’s office, a major lightsaber battle ensues, and a body falls from a 100 story window, and not one of those red guards shows up. And this is in the wake of his being kidnapped at the beginning of the movie. 😉

But he has people who will cover for him. Mas Amedda for example.

I really do not get your issue.

Nah, I think you just made it up. There were no superimposed titles on the screen that said he used force super speed, so it couldn’t possibly be true.

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Sorry, you can’t apply in-universe logic that was created years or decades after the movie came out.

Shame on you for not recognizing a good troll too. 😉

Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Sorry, you can’t apply in-universe logic that was created years or decades after the movie came out.

Shame on you for not recognizing a good troll too. 😉

I’m not trolling though. Luke jumps at superspeed. Just look at the image I attached to the above post.

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Sorry, you can’t apply in-universe logic that was created years or decades after the movie came out.

Shame on you for not recognizing a good troll too. 😉

How else do you explain Qui-Gon and Obi Wan zipping around like the Flash in TPM?

IIRC, force speed popped up in the Super Nintendo OT games.

And my own counsel will I keep as to who’s a troll. 😉

Just out of curiosity, are you also disputing my above screenshot and that scene as showing super speed?

SilverWook said:
How else do you explain Qui-Gon and Obi Wan zipping around like the Flash in TPM?

The prequels are different and separate movies. They don’t apply to the OT, so I don’t consider them at all.

SilverWook said:
And my own counsel will I keep as to who’s a troll. 😉

Well, I just told you I was trolling him. It should have been obvious.

SilverWook said:

https://propstore.com/blog/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back-luke-skywalker-jump-puppet/

It says he force jumps.
So you agree with me?

Chlorine said:

I’m not trolling though. Luke jumps at superspeed. Just look at the image I attached to the above post.

I don’t believe it. Where was his power bar at anyway?

SilverWook said:

Chlorine said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:

Alderaan said:

Chlorine said:
Luke uses force super speed

What is force super speed?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed

Sorry, you can’t apply in-universe logic that was created years or decades after the movie came out.

Shame on you for not recognizing a good troll too. 😉

How else do you explain Qui-Gon and Obi Wan zipping around like the Flash in TPM?

IIRC, force speed popped up in the Super Nintendo OT games.

And my own counsel will I keep as to who’s a troll. 😉

Just out of curiosity, are you also disputing my above screenshot and that scene as showing super speed?

Not to my knowledge.

Don’t see how that applies. Anyway, let’s go back to Palpatine.

What’s your counterpoint to him having people like Mas Amedda covering for him?

SilverWook said:

Sure, his lackeys can say he’s in the bathroom or not available when he’s phoning up Nute Gunray in his private chambers. But how does he sneak off to meet Dooku at the end of AOTC?

The security around Palpatine, (especially after the Grevious kidnapping) is laughable.

Why are you hung up on him meeting Dooku? That’s what I am talking about. He has people cover for him.

As for security, he got kidnapped once with guards around. More guards wouldn’t do anything. They would really only be for show anyway since he planned to be caught.
Palpatine doesn’t need to have a posse around him for show, he already has the senate under his spell.
His red/blue guards are enough in that department.