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Who the heck ARE the Sith in RoS? — Page 2

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My thinking is that in ancient times, the Sith openly ruled the galaxy and used non-Force-sensitives as slaves, and that the people we see in ROS are descendents of people who bought into the claim that the Sith are the rightful rulers of the galaxy who the Sith hid on Exegol after open Sith rule of the galaxy ended.

I wish they had the stadium audience be all the pre-Sidious Sith.

If Plagueis shows up in the ST, not only will I refuse to watch the movies, but I won't so much as watch the trailers, either. - DuracellEnergizer

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Palpatine is the only Sith in Rise of Skywalker. And he is a Clone of the Original. They kind of seem to have been inspired by Dark Empire.

Kylo Ren is a darksider but not a Sith. Because JJ seemed to be confused as to what a Sith is. Snoke was not a Sith either.

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Kylo Ren and Snoke act exactly like Sith, though. Also, isn’t the Exegol cult called the Sith Eternal? Wouldn’t that make them Sith as well?

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To ask a related question… if Sidious is all the Sith, I take that to mean that from perhaps Darth Bane onward the Master basically possesses the apprentice, and on and on it goes.

So, Darth Sidious ought to somehow contain all his predecessors, perhaps even really being Darth Bane. If this is so, how is one to read the line in ROTS in which Palpatine appears to revel in killing his master? “He could save others from death… but not himself.”

Sidious would essentially be Plagueis, right? It would make more sense if the line were something like “he thought he could kill him but he couldn’t.”

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That’s why I don’t take “I am all the Sith” literally. It doesn’t make any sense for every Sith Lord to possess the person who kills them. If we follow that logic, then every Sith Lord would be possessed by Darth Bane.

I think Sidious just means he’s the most powerful Sith.

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I believe this is meant to symbolic. Each Sith who answers to the Rule of Two is meant to build upon what his/her Master (and thus, all of their predecessors), accomplished. Not only did Sidious carry on the legacy of tens of previous Sith Lords (all the way back to Bane), he also fulfilled the master plan all those Sith were contributing to: getting their revenge on the Jedi and restoring a Sith-ruled Empire.

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Kylo Ren and Snoke act exactly like Sith, though.

I’d argue they’re Sith of a non-Baneite lineage, but I’m sure Canon will contradict me on that.

That’s why I don’t take “I am all the Sith” literally.

I believe this is meant to symbolic.

You can interpret it however you want, but the intended meaning is 100% that Palpatine is possessed by the spirit of what I can only assume is Darth Bane, not that Abrams or Terrio would know that. Point is, the stuff about essence transfer and “make the sarcrifice” clearly lays out the idea that all the Sith up to Palpatine are just the same guy body hopping…or something. It’s definitely not intended metaphorically, as much I’d prefer it to be.

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A better movie could’ve done some cool stuff establishing that the Exegol cultists were not only locals or pilgrims that worship the dark side (while not being powerful in it themselves), but perhaps a legion of potential henchmen who have done grunt work (thefts, spying, manual labor, assassinations) for the Sith Lords ever since the days of Bane. Or they could’ve even been the original Sith species from which the first Sith Lords got their name in the Expanded Universe.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Kylo Ren and Snoke act exactly like Sith, though.

I’d argue they’re Sith of a non-Baneite lineage, but I’m sure Canon will contradict me on that.

Well thanks to TRoS, I guess you can say they’re Sith of a Banite lineage, if Palpatine trained Snoke.

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