Who is Ignoring You, and Who are You Ignoring? (was: Who is Ignoring You? (was: Hello all, I'm back!)) — Page 22

xhonzi said:

Gaffer:

Best way to see it is to right click on it and select "view image."

Chewtobacca:

right click on it and select view image.

Does this not work for anyone else?  I use IE8 (I know, I know) and it is not on my right-click menu.  I am forced to go to properties, look at the url, and copy that into a new browser tab.

Wait.  I said that?  I also use IE8 (I know, I know), so I don't have that option and have always been confused as to what the Frink everyone's talking about.

What is the DEAL with people using Internehts Explorer?

I actually have one friend who is very stubborn about their insistence on using Internet Explorer (for reasons they won't specify) and they gives me a really hard time for using Firefox. It is actually very refreshing in a contrarian kind of way, to find someone who stands up and defends an unpopular clunky old worthless browser.

Reminds me of when I was still using an old black and white Nokia phone while everyone else was getting their first smart phones, and I'd argue how much better mine was. People would look at me like I was cute for doing so, but we all knew I was being an idiot and was merely attempting to be different (or as I prefer to think of it, holding back the night, as it were, avoiding technological dependence. Behavior that gets me some amused smiles and pleasant attention from time to time, but no one really takes me seriously.)

Bingowings said:

I can understand about your phone, it may have been no longer the latest thing but at least it worked, you liked it, if why throw away a fully functioning piece of stuff to keep up with 'THEM!'?

Well, it has always been a lot more than simply practicality on my part. The fact was I had more modern phones at my disposal had I wanted to use them, but I chose the oldest most archaic phone I could get my hands on, mostly as a perceived need to remain counter-cultural to 'THEM!' .

I was once given a free 1st generation iPod Touch shortly after they first came out, and I immediately turned around and unceremoniously gave it away for much the same reason I used to carry around an archaic phone. About two years later when I almost had an aneurysm thanks to my Zune, its ridiculous lack of Mac compatibility, and all the hassle I had to go through on emulating Windows just so I could put a song on the thing, I had wished I kept that iPod Touch. But that feeling was fleeting, within twenty minutes I had purchased a decent used old 4th gen iPod off of amazon, had Windows and my Windows emulator deleted off of my computer, and had banished my poor and previously much loved Zune to the deep dark recesses of one of my lesser opened desk drawers (where it still remains to this very day).

I am still waiting for the day Microsoft stops being e-holes and finally makes the Zune Mac compatible, on that day I may very well run out and buy myself a brand new Zune, as I was a really big fan (though I do still have a bad taste in my mouth from Microsoft essentially saying, "Use our OS, or don't use our product").

C3PX said:

(though I do still have a bad taste in my mouth from Microsoft essentially saying, "Use our OS, or don't use our product").

Oof...

TV's Frink said:

He was saying that the Zune doesn't work with a mac.

No, it doesn't work on Apple and there are no plans to ever make it work on Apple.

Did Apple ever do that? I thought the iPod was launched Windows compatible? Since the majority of people are MS users, Apple would be foolish to release any of their products as Apple exclusive. But MS on the other hand, they don't feel they have to be bothered with catering to Mac users and I doubt they lose to many sells on account of this. Still annoying though, I was a true believer in the Zune and felt it put the iPod to shame. But I am also a hug fan of Macs and dislike Windows. Sad to see such a great piece of technology be so useless to me thanks to something as simple as cross-compatibility. Microsoft has some really great stuff, like the Zune and the Xbox, but they always seems to screw them up and make them half as good as they could be with stupid little things like that. 

Jedi Temple34 is now ignoring me. Interesting, I have no memories of interacting with this individual.

That makes sense,

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Warbler said:

C3PX said:

I was a true believer in the Zune and felt it put the iPod to shame.

why did you think it was better than the ipod?

All around, I liked the interface better. It had a built in FM radio, which was kind of nice (maybe the new iPods have those too now, I don't know). Had Wi-Fi, which was cool. You could actually share music on it, so if someone else were connected to the same network as me, they could copy shared songs from my Zune to theirs. To avoid copyright infringement, these downloaded tracks are automatically deleted 24 hours later, but it is still really cool to be able to share your music like that. A more modern version of loaning a CD to a friend.

Apple had been doing the same ol' same ol' with the iPod for several years when the Zune finally came along and went the extra mile adding all sorts of cool extra features that the iPod never dreamed about. Since then, Apple has had to step it up to make the iPod more interesting in response. Made for a better competitive market, but then MS kind of dropped the ball by excluding a portion of their consumers by not adding Mac support. I use an older iPod now and have no temptation to buy a more modern one, but I loved my Zune so much that if they had added Mac support I wouldn't have hesitated to run out and buy one of those Zune HDs when they were released. Every time I see one I still feel a pang of temptation, until I think about all that hassle of mucking around with PC emulators I'd have to go through.

I think MS did much the same thing with the video game market through the Xbox. They really raised the bar and brought things to a whole new level, making both Sony and Nintendo step up accordingly. Sony with a ridiculously over powered console, and Nintendo with some very creative new innovations. But much like with the Zune, once MS raised the bar and proved how awesome they could be, they did precious little to hold their position. So many little things could have been done to make the 360 so much better, but MS seems more than content to leave good enough alone. Only problem is, in a competitive market, good enough is never enough.

When you think about it, it is actually really amazing MS can break into well established markets they have never been a part of (MP3 players, video game consoles), and totally dominate them in a single move. As amazing as it is, it is equally as annoying that they seem to feel that once they have "proved" themselves, no further effort is needed.