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Who hear thinks Jedi would have been more dramatic if Han Solo died?

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I read an interview the other day, where Harrison Ford asked Lucas to be killed off in ROTJ, but Lucas refused.

How would have felt about that?

I am split, part of me thinks it would have been a powerful moment, and maybe elevated ROTJ up to Star Wars & ESB status, but I love the ending (pre-Hayden Christenson Ghost), when they are hugging and finally beaten the Empire. In a sense it was great closure to a great trilogy, having Han Solo die maybe would have been anti-climatic.

What do you guys think?
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Yes, I think it would have worked well. He should have been the one who flew the Falcon to help destroy the second Death Star, and should have went out with the Death Star.
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To me personally as a kid in 1983 i would have been upset had he died, he was one of my favs, and the "happy" ending would not have been the same to me with him gone and others celebrating....
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Lando and the Falcon originally were going to be destroyed in the DSII's explosion.

There's even foreshadowing of that when Han says he feels like he's never going to see the Falcon again.

Would that make it more dramatic as well?
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What I've always loved about Star Wars is that the good guys ultimately win.

Sure, they get their ass handed to them on occasion, but at the end of the day the Empire has been defeated, and they all hang out with Muppets getting drunk on blue milk.

It sends a positive message out to viewers - and I think if one of the main (and most popular) characters had been killed off, it would have damaged the ideals of Star Wars.

Ford only wanted to kill Solo because he was tired of the Star Wars legacy following him around. Even now it looks like pulling teeth just to get him to talk about it. I can understand where he's coming from, but if you want to do something with a character, do it to benefit the story.
Everything in a film should do just that - service the story.

I don't buy the argument that it would have "brought home the horror of war." Well, look, it's not called Real Wars, it's called Star Wars. We already had something to illustrate loss and horror - Empire Strike Back.
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
We already had something to illustrate loss and horror - Empire Strike Back.


And Revenge of the Sith.
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"Loss and horror"? You're talking about Prequels, right?

j/k
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It would have been good if Lando died. As it stands, he fucked over his buddy han, then gets welcomed into the rebellion, saves the day and gets to dance with ewoks. Lando redeeming himself in death and Han mourning his old buddy would have been much better. Could have even had han examining a piece of tehn falcon wreckage or something - I remeber feeling really sad when Marty was pouring over the trashed delorean at the end of BTTF3 because, like the falcon, it was a character of it's own.
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
We already had something to illustrate loss and horror - Empire Strike Back.


And Revenge of the Sith.
iluustrate it, yes, illustrate it well, no.

War does not make one great.

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you definitely felt someone could die, and that to me is just as good
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What is with you people?
Why does a good guy have to die in order for ANY movie to be enjoyable?
What is so evil and anathemic about happy endings?
Fine, mister Lucas, while you're at it why dont you replace Lando with will smith?
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Kam, your posts (all of them) are trollish. Just watch it a little bit
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Originally posted by: kev
Kam, your posts (all of them) are trollish. Just watch it a little bit


Ironic...
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ROTJ is just fine as it is. But it *would* have been even better if:

1) Lando died destroying the second death star, taking the Millennium Falcon out with him.
2) The forest battle had been set on Kashyyyk, with Chewbacca leading a Wookiee revolt against the empire and Han ultimately dying to save him.
3) Luke & Leia weren't brother and sister, thus copping out on what would have otherwise been her decision to choose Han over Luke.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
We already had something to illustrate loss and horror - Empire Strike Back.


And Revenge of the Sith.


We did not have RotS at the time of RotJ. We have it now, but we did not have it then.
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i agree it wouldve been more dramatic to have someone die. i always thought the idea of han dying after he got out of carbonite wouldve been cruel though, and i like lando outrunning the fireball
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
ROTJ is just fine as it is. But it *would* have been even better if:

1) Lando died destroying the second death star, taking the Millennium Falcon out with him.
2) The forest battle had been set on Kashyyyk, with Chewbacca leading a Wookiee revolt against the empire and Han ultimately dying to save him.

Point 2 I like. Point 1 I don't. If Lucas would have chosen that, he would have followed the old cliche of having the black man die.

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
We already had something to illustrate loss and horror - Empire Strike Back.


And Revenge of the Sith.


We did not have RotS at the time of RotJ. We have it now, but we did not have it then.


I know that.
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If someone was going to be killed off, it would have to happen near the beginning of the movie. It then would have left the audience in more suspence after seeing a major character get killed early, they would be wondering what else might happen before the end. We all know that the rebels are going to win, but at what cost? If Lando died leaving the Death Star, I think it would have ruined the moment. The Emperor is gone, Darth is dead, the Death Star is blowing up!! Hurrayy! Oh shit, Lando just died. Not to mention the fastest ship just blew up too. What a killjoy.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
ROTJ is just fine as it is. But it *would* have been even better if:

1) Lando died destroying the second death star, taking the Millennium Falcon out with him.
2) The forest battle had been set on Kashyyyk, with Chewbacca leading a Wookiee revolt against the empire and Han ultimately dying to save him.
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Point 2 I like. Point 1 I don't. If Lucas would have chosen that, he would have followed the old cliche of having the black man die.



I knew sooner or later somebody was gonna say that..... *rolls eyes*

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^But he actually followed through with the cliche on Mace's death. He could have at least had Boba Fett kill him to make up for it!
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I think Han dying would be a nice alternative version of the story, but I like the way things are now. I really don't agree with Harrison's quote that Han no longer had any story responsibilities. I mean, there was still the Han/Leia relationship that was just getting off the ground, and that needed to be resolved. I mean, Luke being her brother was already a cop out enough, but having Han die as well... well, we'd just be getting into soap opera territory.

And YIYF, I don't think Lando should die either. Wasn't the idea that he would die just an urban legend anyway, not based in any kind of fact? I think Lando paid his price by sacrificing everything he had built up in his life. Bespin was everything he had. He had reached a level of respectability, and he abandoned it to join the Rebellion, not to mention risking his life to save Han from Jabba. I think he paid his debt to Han and then some.

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I don't think killing off Lando or Han really would have made it a better movie...the flaws had more to do with some corny dialogue, the Country Bears and overload of Puppets & Muppets turning it more kiddie than most expected...except 5yr olds.

I like Ackbar,and some of those aliens but their so damn floppy and rubbery...I remember thinking back in 83' that half those muppets really took away from the movie....And I always wondered why Lobot wasn't in the Falcon cockpit with Lando. (If han would have had a black Lobot, "Blobot" there would have been an uproar)

Lucas could have balanced it out with a nice sadistic mature ending, like the Death Star exploding,
part of it falls to Endor and lands on the entire tribe of Ewoks....and for the SE another chunk flies across the galaxy and smashes into the Gungans standing on the Naboo buildings...(and no i'm not serious).

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Lucas could have balanced it out with a nice sadistic mature ending, like the Death Star exploding,
part of it falls to Endor and lands on the entire tribe of Ewoks....and for the SE another chunk flies across the galaxy and smashes into the Gungans standing on the Naboo buildings...(and no i'm not serious).

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As the chunks of the death star are flying toward Jar Jar and the gungans he should yell:

"Weesa in deep dodo!"

BAM, the end of Jar Jar! All of the other Gungans live.

Now that would get me to buy the super duper SE of Return of the Jedi.

I would say to every PT gusher, hey it is Lucas vision, we have to respect that.