Which Batman film is your favorite? — Page 3

1) Read the other thread again.  Where did I complain about you derailing the thread?  Quote me.

RedFive claimed that and suggested it would be best to "ignore" me, and you supported him and joined in.
While it was obvious to anyone with half a brain who actually started the derailment.

Whether you deemed it necessary to repeat what he said, like "oh yea, he's derailing this thread, just for the record I've said that, too" honestly doesn't matter, and hiding behind that is yet another case of your dishonesty and hypocrisy.

2) Where did I claim I have disorders that are the cause of my behavior?  Again, quote me.

Well then why were you offended by an (innocent) mention of Aspeger's earlier on, claiming to have some kind of baggage in the area?

At any rate, this was just a jab. You're obviously just being thick, but hey, thanks for confirming it.
And where's your "ignore" function now, hm? :p



I've said it earlier, and I'm saying it now. Quit jumping into threads and trolling my posts.
Not so much because it annoys me, or aggravates me, and is basically a form of harassment (while arguing with someone's opinion on a discussion forum is not), but because it turns you into a self-righteos, disingenuous laughing stock with no leg to stand on writing about "sensible posting", starting polls on "who's the problem", or complaining in any way about someone's argumentative behavior.

Wherever I may have overdone it by being too assertive or pompous in some debate, you're DOING IT WORSE.
And a bit of self-relection never harmed anyone.

RedFive said:

I know it's really, really frustrating, and I myself am having a helluva time not pointing out his awfulness and arguing my points against him, but just ignore him, Frink!  Otherwise it'll never end!

And I don't want to have to stab you with an ice pick!!!!

RedFive still can't admit his mistake in the other thread, and wants to play pretend instead.
Whom is he trying to fool here?

This is so sad and pathetic, it's hard to put in words.
In case anyone is rolling their eyes at the derailment of this thread - you can blame these two jokers for that, and the evidence is in the thread history.

RedFive said:

I know it's really, really frustrating, and I myself am having a helluva time not pointing out his awfulness and arguing my points against him, but just ignore him, Frink!  Otherwise it'll never end!

And I don't want to have to stab you with an ice pick!!!!

Well...there are two other Batman threads if this one is derailed ;-)

twooffour, all I did in the Spoiler thread was agree that it is best to ignore you and then took a (deserved) shot at your attitude.  If you can find a quote from me in that thread that shows I said you were derailing the thread, post it.  Otherwise, stop putting words in my mouth.

Also, someone as "intelligent" as you should know that the term "ignore" doesn't have to refer to the forum ignore function.

Lastly, and not that this is any of your business, I don't have Asperger's or autism or anything like that.  Nor did I claim to.  But that doesn't mean that there haven't been issues in my family that would cause me to be offended by your using Asperger's as an insult.

If I'm wrong - fucking quote me.  Still waiting for that.

You think you know everything but sometimes you don't know shit.  And for putting "disorders" in quotes - fuck you.  Again.

And with that, I go back to trying to ignore all your bullshit.

btw, that last post of mine was from a draft of my Batman fan film. :p

twooffour, all I did in the Spoiler thread was agree that it is best to ignore you and then took a (deserved) shot at your attitude.  If you can find a quote from me in that thread that shows I said you were derailing the thread, post it.  Otherwise, stop putting words in my mouth.

Also, someone as "intelligent" as you should know that the term "ignore" doesn't have to refer to the forum ignore function.

But that doesn't mean that there haven't been issues in my family that would cause me to be offended by your using Asperger's as an insult.

You think you know everything but sometimes you don't know shit.

I go back to trying to ignore all your bullshit.

So I saw this earlier in the thread but I can't remember who said it - why does The Keaton (can't believe I used that) fail as Bruce Wayne because he's too short?  Is his height something from the comic book world that defines his character or is important in some way?

Truth be told I never even noticed.  I loved him as both Bruce and Batman.

I never paid the hype much heed.

I haven't done that since Return Of The Jedi.

So I viewed his performance as a performance (I wasn't really that aware of Ledger's career, certainly less so than Jack Nicholson and there was a scenery chewing performance and in my book the only bit of that film worth watching).

The Joker is a star turn but Ledger's had a much more believable vibe to it for me.

He is insane, anarchy is his bag just as justice is Batman's.

You didn't need an origin or a resolution, he just explodes on the scene, creates maximum mayhem and practically allows himself to be caught when he thinks he's made his point.

Sadly Ledger is dead so he can't do it some more.

Sadly they killed Harvey (Batman's main gallery villains should never be killed, they should always be placed back in Arkham or in prison) as Two Face could have carried a film all on his own.

Burton made the same mistake.

I thought Dark Knight was a gripping thriller if perhaps a bit too long but I would have saved the barge scene for a separate Two Face movie (it's more his MO) than the Joker's.

TV's Frink said:

So I saw this earlier in the thread but I can't remember who said it - why does The Keaton (can't believe I used that) fail as Bruce Wayne because he's too short?  Is his height something from the comic book world that defines his character or is important in some way?

Truth be told I never even noticed.  I loved him as both Bruce and Batman.

Batman should be a looming overwhelming shape.

Not a rubber dummy wobbling from a hole in the ground.

*shrug*

Never bothered me.  Like I said, never even noticed.

Maybe my problem is that I'm not really that into Batman in general, and I like the two Burton films because they are more Burton than Batman.

Actions to one side which is more visually threatening Darth Vader or Lord Dark Helmet?

TIE: Mask of the Phantasm/Batman

Close 2nd. The Dark Knight.

TDK would be higher, if not for one to many repetitions of the "not the hero with think we need to deserve, but the hero we deserve to think we need" monologues.

To this day I've never seen the end of Batman and Robin. I walked out of the theater when Poison Ivy took out a talking plant in a pot or something that just was to damn lame. I flirted with the snack bar girl because my ride stayed in the theater, and actually scored a date, so it was worth it.

TV's Frink said:

I know this won't be a popular opinion, but...

Is it possible that Ledger's performance is overrated due to the timing of this death?  I say yes.

I think some of the hype surrounding a performance was very very very good can be attributed to that. But I don't think to any great deal.

captainsolo said:

TAS is definitive as always. Perfect balance between gadgetry, realism, style, coloring and brings in all of the different looks (Original 39, 40's, 50's, 60's 70's and with a touch of 80's).

Not to mention Kevin Conroy has the perfect voice for Batman. You can hear Adam West in there, but he is pissed off and on steroids.

This has been on my mind for some time, so I'll just say it and get it over with.

The Nolanverse Scarecrow sucks.

The Scarecrow is one of Batman's best villains in the comics/animated series, a truly fucked up psycho with a messed up past. In BB and TDK he's reduced to nothing more than a third tier villain with a burlap sack on his head. He doesn't even get a decent costume.

And he was cooler as Cillian Murphy without the potato head.

DuracellEnergizer said:

This has been on my mind for some time, so I'll just say it and get it over with.

The Nolanverse Scarecrow sucks.

The Scarecrow is one of Batman's best villains in the comics/animated series, a truly fucked up psycho with a messed up past. In BB and TDK he's reduced to nothing more than a third tier villain with a burlap sack on his head. He doesn't even get a decent costume.

 Glad to have that off your chest?

Funny thing is, I think this thread has turned into confession.  "Forgive me, father, for I don't like an aspect of the Nolan Batman series."

Well, DuracellEnergizer, all is forgiven.  Go in peace.