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Originally posted by: JamesEightBitStar
I third JediRandy's opinion. Actually, I think I said something similar before.

To wit, it annoys me that people talk about what Star Wars has become, yet continue to support it anyway. It reminds me of 2004, everyone was saying that they were gonna boycott the OT boxed sets for not including the original theatrical versions... but then several people caved in and decided they just HAD to have those movies, even if it wasn't in a form they wanted. And by giving in, they basically lifted their skirts and took off their panties for Lucas, which allows the man with the many chins to continue to manipulate the fanbase.

Personally, I would like nothing more than to see the death of the Star Wars franchise--no more novels, video games, or whatever. We've had too many of them already. It's time to call it quits.

But I suppose if stupid fans can keep Star Trek going long after it became generic, unwatchable trash, they can keep Star Wars going as well.



But you guys keep missing the point of my post, it never had to get to this, meaning he never had to split the fanbase like this, and that is really sad to me.

Whether you want to say he doesn't owe us anything, or you have to take what you get, etc. I am just talking on a fundamental love for SW, not this boycotting shit, not this venemous shit on Lucas, it is just a fundamental love for the saga that isn't there anymore when it is talked about, and that is because I love the versions that really dont' exist to Lucas anymore, or will never be on TV. When I see ROTJ on, I think of Hayden ruining the ending, and sorry I feel that way, but I watched ROTJ hundreds of times in my life with one ending, I just can't enjoy the new one.

For JediRandy and JamesBitEightStar, or anyone else who has posted in agreement with them, I ask you one question, and I am not being snide at all. If Lucas never touched the OT back in 1997, do you think SW would have any less fans now that it already has?

My point is that anyone who loves the SE had to fall in love with the O-OT, so my theory is that they would have never argued that Hayden should be in ROTJ or Jabba should be in ANH cause it never would have come up in the debate. I can't remember anytime from 77-96 of a SW fans saying, "I am starting to lose interest in these movies, and I hope to god they get updated to Terminator 2 Special Effects, or even when Jurassic Park shocked the movie business with its realistic looking Dinosaurs.

My whole point of this thread is not for anyone to cry for me or anyone else here, I am plainly stating that Lucas divided a fan base, and probably the biggest fanbase in the history movies and he really didn't need to at all. If Lucas never changed the movies in 1997 and Cinemax was showing the PT & OOT in HD, I probably would have watched all 6 cause then it would be my decision to take it or leave it with any movies i had a problem with.

I’m an original member here dating back to 2004. Haven’t posted in years, but looking forward to posting again.

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I know a couple of young people whom I took to see the Special Edition of Star Wars in theaters in 1997, and I'm sure it instilled a greater appreciation in them. Only one of them had never seen the movie before.

I did not take any impressionable youngsters to see the Special Editions of the sequels. Hayden wasn't in Return of the Jedi at that time, but he is still not the thing that bugs me most. It's not the insertion of different cast members, but the deletion of music that bugged me most in '97 and bugs me most to this day. Lapti Nek went seemlessly with the action of the slave girl falling in the Rancor pit, not to mention being a far better song. And say what you will about its gayness, Yub Nub IS the finale music of the Star Wars trilogy. These changes are unforgiveable. I saw the Jedi Special Edition once in theaters and the newer S.E. once on DVD ... and that's where it will stand. I will never watch those versions again. Bah and Double Bah.



I don't agree, however, that the Special Editions divided the fan base. Some don't mind them, but I've yet to meet a single Star Wars fan who - like George - wants the originals to disappear from history and memory.


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Originally posted by: Chewy72
If Lucas never touched the OT back in 1997, do you think SW would have any less fans now that it already has?


Speaking from my personal experience, no. When I went to see the SE Star Wars in '97, I thought I was going to see an entirely new chapter, like a prequel to the original. I had never seen any promotional materials for the film, so I had no clue what it was. SW was certainly doing okay back in the 90's, and if I were to hypothesize, I would say that it would still be just as popular today as it was back then, dated effects and all.
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We don't owe George Lucas anything, either. He's lost me as a fan, and I won't purchase any more of his product.

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No, Lucas doesn't "owe" us anything, but he does owe his first Star Wars movie the respect it deserves, especially in the context of cinema history, and for being the vessel which MADE HIM A FUCKING BILLIONAIRE!!! Geezus Christ, I don't care what he thinks of me or any other fan, but when he's not giving his own film the proper due it deserves, then he doesn't deserve my respect.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
No, Lucas doesn't "owe" us anything, but he does owe his first Star Wars movie the respect it deserves, especially in the context of cinema history, and for being the vessel which MADE HIM A FUCKING BILLIONAIRE!!! Geezus Christ, I don't care what he thinks of me or any other fan, but when he's not giving his own film the proper due it deserves, then he doesn't deserve my respect.


He gave it to you..... just not in "non-anamorphic" blah blah transfer.

And if they sold well, they'll be released again, hopefully the way people want them... that was actually a time when you needed to buy SW DVD's...
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
He gave it to you..... just not in "non-anamorphic" blah blah transfer.


So in other words he didn't give it to us at all.
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If you haven't see the O-OT in anamorphic wide screen, then you haven't seen it at all!
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for the 2004 dvd boxset, lucas used things like documentaries, commentaries and a digital restoration to distract us from the elephant in the room which is that it's not the O-OT.
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
for the 2004 dvd boxset, lucas used things like documentaries, commentaries and a digital restoration to distract us from the elephant in the room which is that it's not the O-OT.


It's an elephant to some people and a complete nothing to others.... bottom line is that the OOT is on DVD... some might say: "beggars can't be choosers". And again, if enough people bought it you'll get it fixed up to higher quality...

And if you call a really well done 2+ hour documentary on all 3 movies a "distraction"..... it might be time to take a step back.
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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What I'm saying is that Lucas used those things I listed, which are all good things in and of themselves, in order to sell us the SE. With the '06 dvds, LFL first announced them in regards to the GOUT but then made the tv ads to focus on them being available "individually for the first time ever," and again he was just selling us the SE.

They'll no doubt use tactics similar to the '04 boxset to sell the '07 release. Who knows, maybe they actually will remaster the O-OT but as that guy from wired magazine so aptly put it, they won't make the fans happy because a happy fan has everything he or she needs.
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IMO ALL fans will get what they want in '07 because after that, it is all over for a very long time. Lucas' cash cow is now producing a mere trickle and he knows this, and hence why he had to double dip on OUT fans this year and next.

Anyway, screw GL and I could care less about him, his lies, his SE and his dumb "original vision". Never have I seen an "artist" disrespect his fans and the people who made him who he is so badly and I hope to never again. Give me the OUT in ANAMORPHIC and I will be one happy camper. Until then, I buy nothing else (FYI I did NOT buy the 09/12 DVDs).

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I understand the feelings involved here, but I really don't see Lucas as disrespecting anyone here.

It's not like he set out to rid the earth of the original version. He says that when he went to restore SW for the 20th anneversary, the negatives and prints had deteriorated far more than they were expecting them to. If he didn't restore the films when he did, we wouldn't even have the SE versions today.

He chose to update the films to make them more like he was hoping they had turned out, and in the process, he permanantly altered the negative. Now the only negative he has is the special edition.

I am not too sure about the details of all those other sets you mention that you feel get far better treatment, but I bet they started from a fairly in tact negative. I don't think they spent nearly as much to make new anamorphic transfers as Lucas did to create the SE version. I know it's the SE, and some of you see that as an entirely different set of films (for valid reason), but it's not Like Lucas was just pissing on us. He reinvested a ton of time and money to "maintain" SW for the next generation.

Now for him to make an anamorphic transfer of the O-OT, he would have to clean up a PRINT, not a negative, and not only that, all the prints that exist today have serious issues that would have to be meticulously straingtended out, just to get back to the original picture quality.

From what I understand, that's possible, but it won't be cheap.

As far as "respect" for us, I think he shows the people who don't like his new stuff a whole lot more respect than he gets in return. He always talks about how the fans who disagree with his artistic taste know how to think out of the box, and are very creative in their own right. He has even apologised for not making the original versions available. He didn't rectify it, but he did say he was sorry, even if he still wanted to do things his way.

Now we have this September release, which may not be the treatement we were all hoping for, but it's a step in the right direction I think.

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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I understand the feelings involved here, but I really don't see Lucas as disrespecting anyone here.

Well, the lack of respect for his fans is clearly evident:

1) You can only get the OOT if you buy the SE edition along with it.
2) Putting a substandard Laserdisc transfer on DVD is ridiculous, especially concerning that HD formats are already knocking on the consumer´s door.
3) In PAL countries, this release is even more sub-standard because of the upscaled NTSC master.


It's not like he set out to rid the earth of the original version. He says that when he went to restore SW for the 20th anneversary, the negatives and prints had deteriorated far more than they were expecting them to. If he didn't restore the films when he did, we wouldn't even have the SE versions today.

He chose to update the films to make them more like he was hoping they had turned out, and in the process, he permanantly altered the negative. Now the only negative he has is the special edition.

The creation of the SE was clearly a project to test market whether the cgi techniques of these days could be successfully implemented to create the prequel trilogy. Will the people actually buy into a cgi generated Jabba, wobbling along Harrison Ford ?


I am not too sure about the details of all those other sets you mention that you feel get far better treatment, but I bet they started from a fairly in tact negative. I don't think they spent nearly as much to make new anamorphic transfers as Lucas did to create the SE version. I know it's the SE, and some of you see that as an entirely different set of films (for valid reason), but it's not Like Lucas was just pissing on us. He reinvested a ton of time and money to "maintain" SW for the next generation.

In film restaraution terms, he destroyed Star Wars. Everything which is left of the original films is the 1997 SE master. Maintaining would have meant to preserve the originals first, and make the SE something which it was supposed to be: a SPECIAL edition.

And btw, there are movies much older and in much worse condition than Star Wars, which have been brought back successfully into the cinema and home video market. Like Hitchcocks Vertigo.


Now for him to make an anamorphic transfer of the O-OT, he would have to clean up a PRINT, not a negative, and not only that, all the prints that exist today have serious issues that would have to be meticulously straingtended out, just to get back to the original picture quality.


You just described the standard procedure which every older film released on DVD has to cope with. Congratulations!

With todays technology, you can easily take a 35mm release print and restaurate it to the point that it will look good on DVD. Especially considering that Star Wars:

- had 70mm releases
- A New Hope was released in the UK in Technicolor dye copies

Digital colour correction and some basic scratch removal is now standard in every studio, very easy to surpass 1993 standards. 20th Century Fox has a great reputation to release old films on DVD in very good quality. My original Alien DVD from 1999 still looks great, and vastly superior to this stinking mess. They most probably have good Star Wars prints in their vaults.


From what I understand, that's possible, but it won't be cheap.


Cheap is nothing. Well, except the way Lucasfilm went in the end, and slap old Laserdisc transfers on DVD. They look much worse than the new THX-1138 DVD transfer. Now this is a highly succesful movie which deserved this premium restauration, right? (Apart from the fact that he screwed it up, too with cgi effects).


As far as "respect" for us, I think he shows the people who don't like his new stuff a whole lot more respect than he gets in return.


So you think he will make a financial loss on those DVD´s? Because in the end, that´s everything that matters. Sorry, but do you really think he actually cares about what you or anyone else here says?


He always talks about how the fans who disagree with his artistic taste know how to think out of the box, and are very creative in their own right. He has even apologised for not making the original versions available. He didn't rectify it, but he did say he was sorry, even if he still wanted to do things his way.


Sources for these claims?


Now we have this September release, which may not be the treatement we were all hoping for, but it's a step in the right direction I think.


This release was nothing but a wasted opportunity. I do not think that this opportunity will come again. Because on HD formats, it will take much more effort to make them look good.
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Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.


You mistunderstand me. There is a difference between "attack on the fans" and "caring shit about the fans". The former one implies emotional involvement, while the latter does not. I don´t sense any emotional involvement towards the fans regarding the 2004SE and the OOT release. Only marketing. And this will continue with further releases.

You said it yourself: we OOT fans only seem to have a chance to get a decent version if we buy enough DVD´s. There you have it. His care is where the money lies.
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SAN RAFAEL, Calif. - George Lucas never figured on a 30-year career as a space pilot. Once “Star Wars” shot into hyperspace, though, he found it hard to come back down to Earth.

Making its DVD debut Tuesday, Lucas’ original sci-fi trilogy — “Star Wars,” “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi” — began as an experimental foray into old-time studio moviemaking for Lucas, whose first two films had been far removed from usual Hollywood sensibilities.

Lucas’ sci-fi satire “THX 1138” had been a commercial dud, but the energetic “American Graffiti” with its driving soundtrack and multi-character point of view scored with audiences, giving the director clout to try something bigger that had been on his mind.

“I’d already started this other idea, which was to do a kind of a classic action adventure film using sets,” Lucas said over lunch at his 2,600-acre Skywalker Ranch. “I’d never worked on a set, I’d never worked at a studio. Never made a traditional movie. So I said, ‘I’m going to do this once, just to see what it’s like, what it’s like to actually design everything, work on a soundstage, do an old-fashioned 1930s movie.

“And I’ll do it in that mode from the 1930s Saturday matinee serials, using kind of 1930s and ’40s sensibilities, and I’ll base it on sort of mythological motifs and icons. I’ll just put it together in a modern form, and I’ll have fun. That’s how I got into that. I did it because it was an interesting move into an area that I thought I’d never go into.”

Three decades later, Lucas is preparing to launch the last of his six “Star Wars” films. Next summer brings “Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith,” completing the prequel trilogy that tells the story of young Anakin Skywalker’s metamorphosis into the villainous Darth Vader of the original three films.

Fans have eagerly awaited the first three “Star Wars” films on DVD, a release Lucas initially intended to delay until he finished “Episode III.”

Some will be miffed that the original theatrical versions are not included in the “Star Wars” boxed set, which features only the special-edition versions Lucas issued in the late 1990s, with added effects and footage, including a scene between Harrison Ford’s Han Solo and crime lord Jabba the Hutt in the first “Star Wars.”

AP: Why did you change your mind and decide to put the original three movies out on DVD now?

Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.

AP: Why did you rework the original trilogy into the special-edition versions in the late 1990s?

Lucas: To me, the special edition ones are the films I wanted to make. Anybody that makes films knows the film is never finished. It’s abandoned or it’s ripped out of your hands, and it’s thrown into the marketplace, never finished. It’s a very rare experience where you find a filmmaker who says, “That’s exactly what I wanted. I got everything I needed. I made it just perfect. I’m going to put it out there.” And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now. They’ve got a new perspective on it, they’ve got more resources, they have better technology, and they can fix or finish the things that were never done. ... I wanted to actually finish the film the way it was meant to be when I was originally doing it. At the beginning, people went, “Don’t you like it?” I said, “Well, the film only came out to be 25 or 30 percent of what I wanted it to be.” They said, “What are you talking about?” So finally, I stopped saying that, but if you read any interviews for about an eight- or nine-year period there, it was all about how disappointed I was and how unhappy I was and what a dismal experience it was. You know, it’s too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it. So this was my chance to finish it.

AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that’s the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it’s on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I’m not going to spend the, we’re talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn’t really exist anymore. It’s like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I’m sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I’m the one who has to take responsibility for it. I’m the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they’re going to throw rocks at me, they’re going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and “Star Wars” fans is they’re very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I’m making the movies, so I should have it my way.

AP: After “Episode III,” will you ever revisit “Star Wars”?

Lucas: Ultimately, I’m going to probably move it into television and let other people take it. I’m sort of preserving the feature film part for what has happened and never go there again, but I can go off into various offshoots and things. You know, I’ve got offshoot novels, I’ve got offshoot comics. So it’s very easy to say, “Well, OK, that’s that genre, and I’ll find a really talented person to take it and create it.” Just like the comic books and the novels are somebody else’s way of doing it. I don’t mind that. Some of it might turn out to be pretty good. If I get the right people involved, it could be interesting.
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Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.


You mistunderstand me. There is a difference between "attack on the fans" and "caring shit about the fans". The former one implies emotional involvement, while the latter does not. I don´t sense any emotional involvement towards the fans regarding the 2004SE and the OOT release. Only marketing.


I guess this goes back to the percentage of fans that care about not having the OOT. Personally I don't think it was that high... if it was, then the last release would've sold better.
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.


You mistunderstand me. There is a difference between "attack on the fans" and "caring shit about the fans". The former one implies emotional involvement, while the latter does not. I don´t sense any emotional involvement towards the fans regarding the 2004SE and the OOT release. Only marketing.


I guess this goes back to the percentage of fans that care about not having the OOT. Personally I don't think it was that high... if it was, then the last release would've sold better.


And this is the point, where everyone has to evaluate his position. Am I the better fan if I buy everything coming from him, regardless of the quality, playing according to his plan to make Star Wars an everlasting franchise, selling the same content over and over again, or do I choose not to buy this, and risk that the OOT will never be released again. However, whatever you choose, money is the dominant factor. Not love or care for the fanbase. Fair enough, if there wouldn´t be this annoying horde of fans, putting everything they like to imagine into his mouth. GL is our saviour - GL robbed my childhood, blablabla... He personally couldn´t care less about this shit.
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I agree there is a damned if you buy damned if you don't mentality about the idea that this latest release could lead to a better version of the O-OT.

I mean on the one hand I realize a lot of people want to hold off buying it to voice their opinion that they want better quality, but if nobody buys this then Lucas can sit back and say: See nobody wanted it.

I think that if I were in that position I would just pick up the September release anyway.

Worse case scenario, he doesn't make a better version available, but at least you will have that.

Best case scenario, Lucas has a huge change of heart and decides to sink more money and effort into restoring the O-OT.

I think that would be worth being double dipped.

I just think the chances of a boycott of this release leading to Lucas saying, oh that's just because I didn't make a great transfer, I'll get on that right away is far less than him looking at gang buster sales of the September release and saying: Maybe this would be worth more of my time and money.

I don't deny he is a business man, and if there is money to be made, he will likely do that. I don't see him donating money to something that is just pissing it away with no return.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
This was cut and pasted from here.


So, did you actually read that interview? Read, how pragmatic he argues? His own admission, how far away he is from his fanbase? That he doesn´t care? Exactly what I´m saying the whole time.
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I don't see why he should feel guilty for having his own opinion about how his own movies should be.

I don't see why he should feel motivated to conform to other people's ideas for what Star Wars should be, even if they happened to like what he did originally.

He says he's sorry about that, but he has his own opinion about how they should be.

You make it out like the fanbase is all of the same opinion. Everyone I have ever talked to is different, and pleasing "the fans" is just not possible.

Not everyone in the fan base thinks that Lucas is taking things in the wrong direction.

The only thing Lucas can really count on as a tangible direction is his own vision for these films.

I think that if he were to keep the originals in standard quality along side the new editions, that would make the most people happy.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I agree there is a damned if you buy damned if you don't mentality about the idea that this latest release could lead to a better version of the O-OT.

I mean on the one hand I realize a lot of people want to hold off buying it to voice their opinion that they want better quality, but if nobody buys this then Lucas can sit back and say: See nobody wanted it.

Of course nobody wants a shitty release of their favourite films.

Again, I say that the OOT release was just a marketing gag to sell the unsold SE discs, not to test market the demand for it. An indication for this is that they were really surprised by the negative uproar caused by the press release that they were not anamorphic. They simply did not expect people to care about this aspect of the release.


I think that if I were in that position I would just pick up the September release anyway.

Worse case scenario, he doesn't make a better version available, but at least you will have that.

Best case scenario, Lucas has a huge change of heart and decides to sink more money and effort into restoring the O-OT.

I think that would be worth being double dipped.


This is not the way how to treat your fanbase. This is the way companies are playing with customers. And exactly this is the point of realization, where I personally don´t give shit about GL anymore. This is the point, where I don´t understand people anymore jumping into the bushes and defending this rich guy. I could only understand this way of thinking from people, who are finacially dependant on him (Lucasfilm employees).

Watch THX-1138. It´s almost a self-fulfilling parody. BUY MORE, AND BE HAPPY!


I just think the chances of a boycott of this release leading to Lucas saying, oh that's just because I didn't make a great transfer, I'll get on that right away is far less than him looking at gang buster sales of the September release and saying: Maybe this would be worth more of my time and money.

I don't deny he is a business man, and if there is money to be made, he will likely do that. I don't see him donating money to something that is just pissing it away with no return.


Do you think that a OOT restauration would be like pissing money away? Treating the films which made you a fortune with respect? Interesting choice of words.
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I just meant from his point of view.

You have to understand that Lucas is spending quite a bit of money already "restoring" the classic trilogy. It's just to him, it's far more important to make it more the way he wanted it than to preserve how it was originally. To him, he's trying to ensure that Star Wars will last long after he is gone, and last as a truer representation of what he wanted it to be.

For him to go back and restore the versions of the films he felt weren't finished in the first place is counter productive to his own personal artistic goals.

I think part of the reason he didn't release the O-OT on DVD at all is because he probably felt that the laserdisc Master just wouldn't be up to today's standards. I think that's why it was like pulling teeth for Jim Ward to finally convince him to okay the September solution.

If he were to go back and restore a print of the O-OT, and bring it up to today's standards, it would be for the benefit of the people who actually want those cuts, not Lucas. Sure he stands to make money from it, but only if there is enough interest to off set the cost of the restoration in the first place.

That's why I see this September release as a way to show Lucas that the original versions -do- matter to a substantial enough group of people to make the restoration effort finacially self sustaining.

I agree with your assessment of THX. Lucas certainly knows the consumer dynamic like the back of his hand.

For me in the end, I hold myself responsible for any of my purchases. If I choose to be double dipped, then I choose to be double dipped.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I don't see why he should feel guilty for having his own opinion about how his own movies should be.

Fair enough. As I don´t feel guilty for having my opinion about which version of Star Wars is the original and preferrable one.


I don't see why he should feel motivated to conform to other people's ideas for what Star Wars should be, even if they happened to like what he did originally.


PErhaps out of sheer repect for his fanbase and the movies who made him a fortune? But then again, I forgot that he is primarily a business man. In order to sell the SE´s in 1997, he had to claim that these are now his definitive versions. He already ridiculed this statement in 2004 and further when he decided to make further alterations. And it will continue.


He says he's sorry about that, but he has his own opinion about how they should be.


Therefore, this "I´m sorry, BUT" is nothing but an empty phrase.


You make it out like the fanbase is all of the same opinion. Everyone I have ever talked to is different, and pleasing "the fans" is just not possible.


Yeah, like those Blade Runner fans, which will get next year on DVD AND HD-DVD a special edition set, containing:

1) The original 1982 cinema cut, which hast been available on video for almost TWO decades
2) The 1992 Director´s cut
3) The new Final Cut, which will be Ridley Scott´s definitive version.

Or like those ET fans, who can have BOTH the original and 20th anniversary edition IN THE SAME QUALITY on DVD.

Yes, it´s so hard to please the fans. But then again, Blade Runner was such a financial succesful movie contrary to the Star Wars franchise....


Not everyone in the fan base thinks that Lucas is taking things in the wrong direction.


This is right. Not everyone thinks like that.


The only thing Lucas can really count on as a tangible direction is his own vision for these films.


Oh no, not this "BUT HE IS AN ARTIST" crap. His Vision is changing from minute to minute, pointing in the direction of $,€ and whatever bills.


I think that if he were to keep the originals in standard quality along side the new editions, that would make the most people happy.


Yep, but this is not going to happen.