DuracellEnergizer said:
imperialscum said:
Well Frink proclaimed many of the threads to be the worst. But this one is actually the worst.
Ah, go back to General Star Wars Discussion, you meshugganah.
I will! Only boring stuff around here.
真実
I was never able to get into the Gold Key Comics. I started reading Trek comics around 1980 or 81 with the Marvel series. Still have all of my back issues of that, and also the first DC series. The DC series was my favorite.
DC also put out a Next Generation mini-series in the late 80's that I own, but I did not enjoy it at all. My Trek interests as far as collecting and reading ended for me in 1992 with "The Undiscovered Country". That was the last tie-in novel I read all the way through. If memory servers, I did get a hard cover copy of the Generations novel as a gift, but I did not find it interesting.
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
imperialscum said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
imperialscum said:
Well Frink proclaimed many of the threads to be the worst. But this one is actually the worst.
Ah, go back to General Star Wars Discussion, you meshugganah.
I will! Only boring stuff around here.
FanFiltration said:
I was never able to get into the Gold Key Comics.
Tell me about it! The Gold Key comics are what I imagine a Season 4 of TOS would have looked like, with writing so bad that almost every episode would have been of the same calibre as "Spock's Brain".
FanFiltration said:
I was never able to get into comics.
Fixed that for me.
Basically pre-2009 movie what was in the official canon before that..... 
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TV's Frink said:
FanFiltration said:
I was never able to get into comics.
Fixed that for me.
Philistine!
twister111 said:
Basically pre-2009 movie what was in the official canon before that.....
Awkward phrasing is awkward.
TV's Frink said:
FanFiltration said:
This is my personal literary Star Trek canon list.
This is stuff I have read, and I continue to re-read.
If it's not on the list, I did not read it, or I did not consider it worthy
of considering cannon.
This is where it all ends for me!
Whatever happened to the bunny's "LOL" and his candy?
Good question.
After he was diagnosed with diabetes, he no longer felt like LOLing or owning candy.
I also always enjoyed the FASA Star Trek Role Playing Game source books, and I very much considered them part of my personal Star Trek canon during the pre-Next Generation era. My role playing friends and I did not recognize the Next Generation gaming material for the first few seasons of that show when it went on the air in the late 1980's.
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
This design for a TOS-era phaser rifle
is definitely going into my personal canon.
My personal Star Trek Canon consists of the following:
Any other Star Trek movie or series is just fanfiction.
Edit: In my initial version of the post, I didn’t include The Motion Picture, The Final Frontier, The Undiscovered Country, and Nemesis. But lately, I have decided to take a more “mainstream” approach by including all the movies from the TOS/TNG era, so I edited the post. Therefore, the exchange of opinions that I had with BedeHistory731 in the next two posts is not valid anymore.
«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»
— Vladimir Lenin
Why would you exclude The Motion Picture and Undiscovered Country?
Why would you exclude The Motion Picture and Undiscovered Country?
Because I find them to be boring, honestly. And I know that “boring” doesn’t automatically mean bad, but I never felt the need to take those two movies as an actual part of the story.
Edit: This comment is not valid anymore. Now I accept both movies.
«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»
— Vladimir Lenin
Wrath of Khan
good episodes of The Next Generation
First Contact
Deep Space Nine
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force game
My personal Trek canon is on the complicated side.
I generally accept the events of TOS as canon – minus such gems as “The Alternative Factor” and “Turnabout Intruder” – but not the visuals, which I think have aged terribly and look cheap/cheesy today. So I imagine the “true” TOS ships, uniforms, aliens, etc. looking closer to the ones in SNW, though I DO NOT consider SNW canon.
Harlan Ellison’s version of “The City on the Edge of Forever” supersedes the final episode.
TMP and TWOK are canon, but I’m on the fence regarding the remaining TOS films. I like them all to varying extent, even TFF, but I often feel Spock’s sacrifice at the end of TWOK was a perfect sendoff for the character and shouldn’t have been overturned.
The Early Voyages comic, along with the novels Vulcan’s Glory and The Wounded Sky, are all canon.
I haven’t read all of the Rihannsu novels, but I’m inclined to accept their depiction of Romulan culture as canon.
“Yesteryear” is the only episode of TAS I feel strongly enough about to consider definitively canon. I can take or leave the rest of the series.
I recognize TNG in broad strokes; there was an Enterprise-D commanded by a Capt. Jean-Luc Picard with a Data, Riker, etc. serving under him. But I have so many issues with the show that I only accept what’s necessary for DS9 to exist. None of the TNG films are canon.
I generally accept DS9 as canon, though not many of the elements I dislike about TNG that carried over, such as the depiction of Klingons. I’m not sure if I accept Jadzia’s death and Ezri Dax’s existence as canon.
“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”
― Leo Tolstoy
Superweapon VII said:
I generally accept the events of TOS as canon – minus such gems as “The Alternative Factor” and “Turnabout Intruder” – but not the visuals, which I think have aged terribly and look cheap/cheesy today. So I imagine the “true” TOS ships, uniforms, aliens, etc. looking closer to the ones in SNW, though I DO NOT consider SNW canon.
Hey, that’s basically what I do as well! I accept The Original Series, but I imagine it with the Strange New Worlds aesthetics, even though I don’t accept Strange New Worlds itself as Canon.
«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»
— Vladimir Lenin
Thus far I’ve yet to encounter anything in the prime universe I’d disregard as non-canon.
Oh if you only knew…
Well let’s get down to business.
TOS
TAS
IDWY4
Y4TEE
WEAT
STC
IDWY5
TMP-TUC
TNG
DS9
VOY
ENT
LDS
And that’s it for the Prime Timeline. As much as I enjoy First Contact, I’m more than willing to sacrifice it so that TNG ends definitively with All Good Things.
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