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What is wrong with... Attack of the Clones? - a general discussion thread — Page 5

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TV’s Frink said:

My wife and I have long suspected George has Asperger’s. This is not an insult (those who know me understand why) but an observation on both his strengths and weaknesses.

This is a really profound idea that makes so much sense as to seem obvious in retrospect. Obsessed with details but not a great understanding of the workings of relationships… wow.

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SilverWook said:

See something, tell a mod. The report button only sends a message to Jay, AFAIK.

Whoops, I assumed you got those notifications.

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Joel said:

TV’s Frink said:

My wife and I have long suspected George has Asperger’s. This is not an insult (those who know me understand why) but an observation on both his strengths and weaknesses.

This is a really profound idea that makes so much sense as to seem obvious in retrospect. Obsessed with details but not a great understanding of the workings of relationships… wow.

Yeah, I’ve considered this before and I think I agree with it. I don’t know him or anything so I can’t say for sure, but from what I have seen of him and do know about him I think it’s a possibility. He’s not good at communicating-actors say he was always very distant and aloof and difficult to talk to. He’s far more concerned with (and more skilled with) technical details than he is with dialogue, character motivations, relationships, etc. He tends to speak in a rather monotone, rambling and detached fashion in interviews. He doesn’t seem to be all that empathetic or concerned with the desires of his fans or anyone else, focused with a tunnel-vision on “his vision.” And a lot of times he doesn’t really seem to be socially aware at all.

Yeah, I can definitely see it.

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TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

See something, tell a mod. The report button only sends a message to Jay, AFAIK.

Whoops, I assumed you got those notifications.

Since I’m a mod, I don’t even see the button! I didn’t even know about until someone else mentioned it.

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Where were you in '77?

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Huh, weird. On FE I see the button.

I am the button.

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The real problem with AOTC is that the idea is sound but is ruined by the execution.

Harmy pointed out that the synopsis of this film is probably the strongest in the three prequels: there’s been an assasination attempt on a senator and one jedi is sent to protect her and one is sent to investigate. The jedi and the senator fall in love (which is forbidden) and the other jedi discovers a gigantic military build up operation.

There’s a great story here! But George’s weaknesses in storytelling and direction hamper the whole thing and the execution is lousy.

I do think one shouldn’t nitpick too much with this movie, but unlike other films with glaring plothole issues that you can forgive, AOTC is so boring and badly acted that these plotholes just stare at you like a thousand deer in headlights.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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GL should have invited Irvin Kershner to direct this one.

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TheHutt said:

GL should have invited Irvin Kershner to direct this one.

And Gary Kurtz to produce it.
And Martha Lucas to edit it.

(I would have added “And Kasdan to write it”, but since TFA I’m not sure the guy is still the great screenwriter he once was)

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SilverWook said:

Ghibili said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ghibili said:

Dek Rollins said:

^This conversation is a day old, but my old man laughs at some pretty stupid crap sometimes. That doesn’t make it comedy gold.

Humor is subjective.

You’re objectively not funny AND an asshole.

Love it when the intolerant and inconsiderate start preaching the moral high ground all of a sudden.

Also you are probably making up the story about your still born daughter to make me feel bad.

Stay classy.

You just don’t when the heck to stop, do you?

Not that I am want to defend Ghibil(after all we are talking about a guy who is such a douchebag that he puts ROTS above TESB) but TV Frinks should not have provoked him.

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MalàStrana said:
(I would have added “And Kasdan to write it”, but since TFA I’m not sure the guy is still the great screenwriter he once was)

He co wrote it with JJ so whatever you feel regarding TFA would not be entirely his “fault”

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Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:
(I would have added “And Kasdan to write it”, but since TFA I’m not sure the guy is still the great screenwriter he once was)

He co wrote it with JJ so whatever you feel regarding TFA would not be entirely his “fault”

Well, I know. I believe the first act and Han’s death to be Kasdan’s (because it’s really close to what him, Lucas and Kurtz had in mind when they talked about REVENGE OF THE JEDI and the sequel trilogy), and the second act and most of the third act to be JJ’s. We’ll know the truth in a decade or so.

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2018151212 said:
Not that I am want to defend Ghibil(after all we are talking about a guy who is such a douchebag that he puts ROTS above TESB) but TV Frinks should not have provoked him.

People should ignore TV Fink and not respond to his provocations, the guy is just the official troll of the forum. He gets jealous when someone is more insufferable than him and tries his best to get him banned. So just ignore him.

(wait a second… ROTS above TESB ?!? Both should get banned then 😄))

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2018151212 said:

SilverWook said:

Ghibili said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ghibili said:

Dek Rollins said:

^This conversation is a day old, but my old man laughs at some pretty stupid crap sometimes. That doesn’t make it comedy gold.

Humor is subjective.

You’re objectively not funny AND an asshole.

Love it when the intolerant and inconsiderate start preaching the moral high ground all of a sudden.

Also you are probably making up the story about your still born daughter to make me feel bad.

Stay classy.

You just don’t when the heck to stop, do you?

Not that I am want to defend Ghibil(after all we are talking about a guy who is such a douchebag that he puts ROTS above TESB) but TV Frinks should not have provoked him.

He posted an image of a weirdly proportioned Han Solo and said it looked like he had Down syndrome. My wife and I lost our first daughter to a similar genetic abnormality, so I took issue with it. Instead of apologizing, or just shutting the hell up, he doubled down, and as you can see above in that quote, even accused me of making it up. He’s now been banned.

I did not provoke him one bit.

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MalàStrana said:
I believe the first act to be Kasdan’s (because it’s really close to what him, Lucas and Kurtz had in mind when they talked about REVENGE OF THE JEDI and the sequel trilogy)

It’s also the best part of the film so even on that basis alone I would agree.

and the second and third acts to be JJ’s. We’ll know the truth in a decade or so.

And I also believe that some of the sloppiness of the 3rd act is due to JJ. I doubt it was Kasdan’s idea to have R2 conveniently wake up when the plot needed to. Though I should be used to plot conveniences in Star Wars by now since all of them suffer from them.

He gets jealous when someone is more insufferable than him and tries his best to get him banned. So just ignore him.

I don’t remember Frink ever talking about a member’s disabled kids on this forum. I mean yeah he can be an ass at times but he wouldn’t stoop to that level.

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TV’s Frink said:

2018151212 said:

SilverWook said:

Ghibili said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ghibili said:

Dek Rollins said:

^This conversation is a day old, but my old man laughs at some pretty stupid crap sometimes. That doesn’t make it comedy gold.

Humor is subjective.

You’re objectively not funny AND an asshole.

Love it when the intolerant and inconsiderate start preaching the moral high ground all of a sudden.

Also you are probably making up the story about your still born daughter to make me feel bad.

Stay classy.

You just don’t when the heck to stop, do you?

Not that I am want to defend Ghibil(after all we are talking about a guy who is such a douchebag that he puts ROTS above TESB) but TV Frinks should not have provoked him.

He posted an image of a weirdly proportioned Han Solo and said it looked like he had Down syndrome. My wife and I lost our first daughter to a similar genetic abnormality, so I took issue with it. Instead of apologizing, or just shutting the hell up, he doubled down, and as you can see above in that quote, even accused me of making it up.

I did not provoke him one bit.

Oh, really so thats why you are tellinhg hom that he is objectivly unfunny when he is not even talking about himself but the humor in AOTC.

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2018151212 said:

TV’s Frink said:

2018151212 said:

SilverWook said:

Ghibili said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ghibili said:

Dek Rollins said:

^This conversation is a day old, but my old man laughs at some pretty stupid crap sometimes. That doesn’t make it comedy gold.

Humor is subjective.

You’re objectively not funny AND an asshole.

Love it when the intolerant and inconsiderate start preaching the moral high ground all of a sudden.

Also you are probably making up the story about your still born daughter to make me feel bad.

Stay classy.

You just don’t when the heck to stop, do you?

Not that I am want to defend Ghibil(after all we are talking about a guy who is such a douchebag that he puts ROTS above TESB) but TV Frinks should not have provoked him.

He posted an image of a weirdly proportioned Han Solo and said it looked like he had Down syndrome. My wife and I lost our first daughter to a similar genetic abnormality, so I took issue with it. Instead of apologizing, or just shutting the hell up, he doubled down, and as you can see above in that quote, even accused me of making it up.

I did not provoke him one bit.

Oh, really so thats why you are tellinhg hom that he is objectivly unfunny when he is not even talking about himself but the humor in AOTC.

Fine, I provoked him. If people are assholes I don’t forget it, and I don’t let other people forget it. And now no one has to read his shitty posts anymore. So you’re welcome.

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TV’s Frink said:

2018151212 said:

SilverWook said:

Ghibili said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ghibili said:

Dek Rollins said:

^This conversation is a day old, but my old man laughs at some pretty stupid crap sometimes. That doesn’t make it comedy gold.

Humor is subjective.

You’re objectively not funny AND an asshole.

Love it when the intolerant and inconsiderate start preaching the moral high ground all of a sudden.

Also you are probably making up the story about your still born daughter to make me feel bad.

Stay classy.

You just don’t when the heck to stop, do you?

Not that I am want to defend Ghibil(after all we are talking about a guy who is such a douchebag that he puts ROTS above TESB) but TV Frinks should not have provoked him.

He posted an image of a weirdly proportioned Han Solo and said it looked like he had Down syndrome. My wife and I lost our first daughter to a similar genetic abnormality, so I took issue with it. Instead of apologizing, or just shutting the hell up, he doubled down, and as you can see above in that quote, even accused me of making it up. He’s now been banned.

I did not provoke him one bit.

Funny how that seems to have nothing to do with what he was posting about. Also 2018151212 TESB is not better then ROTS.

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OcarinaOfTime said:
Also 2018151212 TESB is not better then ROTS.

Season 5 of Dexter is better than Season 2
TPM is better than STAR WARS
Octocon was better than Under The Sign of The Black Mark
Batman v Superman is better than Batman Begins
Terminator Salvation is better than T2
Assassin’s Creed Unity was better than Assassin’s Creed II

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Lord Haseo said:

OcarinaOfTime said:
Also 2018151212 TESB is not better then ROTS.

Season 5 of Dexter is not better than Season 2
TPM is better than STAR WARS
Octocon was better than Under The Sign of The Black Mark
Batman v Superman is better than Batman Begins
Terminator Salvation is better than T2
Assassin’s Creed Unity was better than Assassin’s Creed II

T2 is such a reharsh so your actually right about it not being as good as terminator salvation.