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What is the main Star Wars Saga about? — Page 3

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I don’t think it’s a pointless distraction at all.

But I do think once you start shifting the weight of what it’s trying to do from WHAT it’s saying, to HOW it’s saying it, you free yourself up to allowing that sort of confusion of purpose and muddy storytelling.

If your structure is no longer supporting the weight of your story, you need to change the structure accordingly. The Joseph Campbell stuff was meaningful and helpful in helping Lucas tell the “do the right thing” story. But once it became a story about BEING “Joseph Campbell Stuff,” it got waylaid.

But to clarify: I don’t think its mythological underpinnings are pointless at all - but I do think choosing to look at Star Wars solely as a myth that is mythologizing it’s own mythmaking (which is increasingly what Lucas did, in service to shifting the story’s aim from “Do the right thing” to “Forgive your dad, he loves you.”) is what inevitably leads to Star Wars being disappointing and lost.

It needs to be about more than itself. It can reference itself, it can nod to itself, and it can perpetuate its own mythmaking. But it can’t be ABOUT those things alone. Those things have to be in service to what it IS about.

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Yeah, I agree. The mythological themes help, but they shouldn’t be the only focus. Between the prequels and the sequels, I feel like the balance of mythology and social commentary is hard to strike. Only the OT has gotten it right so far.

My preferred saga experience:
ANH (4K77), ESB (Harmy), ROTJ (4K83).
Everything else is optional.

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There is a benefit to structure in that it orients the storytelling and allows your fantastic world to still be understood, of course not every character or moment requires its ancient mythological analogue to count as a story, the movies aren’t just about strict adherence to formula, but those reference points are extremely reliable and both the OT and PT utilized them to form their arcs. The ST is more than just a collection of scenes, there are themes, but it feels more disjointed between films and (for me at least) it’s much harder to pin down the overall arc of the trilogy, harder still a unifying arc to the saga.

You could also say Star Wars is about good vs evil and leave it at that for a one-size-fits-all answer, I feel like that’s a little reductive, even to say it’s about doing the right thing still leaves the actual moral underneath, what is the right thing to do?

“The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.” - DV

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ray_afraid said:

act on instinct said:

to say it’s about doing the right thing still leaves the actual moral underneath, what is the right thing to do?

The right thing to do is the thing that benefits all instead of one. Acting selflessly for the greater good.
That’s pretty much what the phrase means.

Not to dive into moral philosophy, but it’s a bit more nuanced than that. Would you kill someone to stop the spread of a disease if you are guaranteed it won’t get to the world at large? Or would you quarantine them and risk it getting out to infect millions?

^ btw this has nothing to do with current events, just a good philosophy example.

Maul- A Star Wars Story

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I’d say either the force or Palpatine, as it begins and ends with him.

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The mistakes of youth (prequels), the consequences of those actions (originals), and the sins of the father visited upon future generations (sequels).

Also family, redemption, perseverance, and hope.

(And space wizards with laser swords.)

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NFBisms said:

It’s pretty simple I’d think: Star Wars as a series is about storytelling, and the act of passing stories down. It’s rooted in a fun genre pastiche, with the original film(s) as a classic monomyth set in a storied world. The prequels then set out to deconstruct the ideals inherent in those stories from a more sociopolitical angle (The Empire rooted in capitalism, the classical masculine ideals are problematic, etc.) then the sequels tr(ied) to make sense of it all from a postmodernist perpsective: why are these stories important to us? How do you apply their lessons to real and imperfect people?

On every level, from Luke’s quest to fulfill his father’s legacy, to George’s borrowing of references, to even its cultural impact thereafter - Star Wars is about legends and how we interpret them. How the Jedi interpet their code, how Luke chooses to see his father, how Rey or Kylo see history, and their futures.

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How could everyone overlook this perfect post?

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The OT was about Luke’s journey. The prequel about Anakin’s Journey and the third Trilogy about Rey’s Journey.
Rey being an adopted Skywalker ties the 3 together and nothing more. A loosely connected Saga about the Skywalker/Solo family and their friends. At least its no longer the Story of Darth Vader. That in itself erased the series being from the adventures of Luke Skywalker.

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NFBisms said:

It’s pretty simple I’d think: Star Wars as a series is about storytelling, and the act of passing stories down. It’s rooted in a fun genre pastiche, with the original film(s) as a classic monomyth set in a storied world. The prequels then set out to deconstruct the ideals inherent in those stories from a more sociopolitical angle (The Empire rooted in capitalism, the classical masculine ideals are problematic, etc.) then the sequels tr(ied) to make sense of it all from a postmodernist perpsective: why are these stories important to us? How do you apply their lessons to real and imperfect people?

On every level, from Luke’s quest to fulfill his father’s legacy, to George’s borrowing of references, to even its cultural impact thereafter - Star Wars is about legends and how we interpret them. How the Jedi interpet their code, how Luke chooses to see his father, how Rey or Kylo see history, and their futures.

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I second the above - perfect post! Can’t believe I missed it.