skyjedi2005 said: they started to prequelise everything
KOTOR, KOTOR II, SWTOR, Dark Nest Trilogy, Legacy of the Force, Fate of the Jedi, and the Legacy comics, for example.
I like the optimistic direction of the pre-Vong EU. The galaxy actually moves forward and makes progress!
Much of my love from the EU comes from the Old Republic era. This includes Tales of the Jedi, Kotor games, and the Darth Bane trilogy. They show what life was like during the Old Republic and it keeps itself separated from the movies, almost making as its own thing.
Also, I do enjoy bits and pieces of the 90s books produced by Bantam and media associated in this era of Star Wars. This includes Zahn's Thrawn trilogy and Hand of Thrawn duology, the Jedi Academy trilogy, and the Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy game. I liked how it shows the New Republic and Jedi Order slowly rebuilding itself while dealing with remnants of the Empire.
There are even some bits and pieces I like from the EU of the prequels. My favorite thing would be Genndy's 2003 Clone Wars micro-series. There are also small hints I enjoy, like the Tusken Jedi A'Sharad Hett. The new Clone Wars is just "meh" for me as there are some things that I don't like (like Grievous going all Cobra Commander in the show) while I enjoy certain story arcs (like the Season 5 finale).
I haven't been able to read any of the Marvel comics. I am interested since I heard one of the comics talks about Obi-Wan and the Clone Wars.
Anakin killed women and children for a mom he didn’t give a fuck about (if he did, he would’ve done something instead of fucking around on Naboo). It’s as bad as Luke trying to kill Kylo in TLJ because neither Luke or Anakin are what the OT established: good men. It’s character assassination. Now, fuck off.
I like that the post-ROTJ Empire and the Vong were major threats without being Sith.
The Vong were originally intended to be Sith, but Lucas vetoed that idea.
Shame he never vetoed all the other "reborn Sith" gimmicks that were to come later.
Ugh, how I loathe the Vong and the whole NJO. Instead of making them some stupid extragalactic threat, they should have come from the Unknown Regions. A vast interplanetary kingdom hitherto unknown to the greater galaxy until the invasion.
^I guess the writers figured an invasion force from the Unknown Regions wouldn't make for a credible threat considering how small the Unknown Regions are compared to the rest of the galaxy, so they went with extragalactic aliens instead.
Of course, the Unknown Regions should have been larger in the first place. The various writers of the modern EU fumbled the ball when they made the Republic/Empire encompass most of the galaxy instead of just a small portion of it.
DuracellEnergizer said: The various writers of the modern EU fumbled the ball when they made the Republic/Empire encompass most of the galaxy instead of just a small portion of it.
Why do you feel that way?
When it comes to fictional universes that are set in outer space, I like it when most of space is left uncharted and mysterious; it makes the universe feel immense, that just about anything can be found if one only travels far enough beyond the horizon.
But when most of that space has been charted, explored, and colonized, it makes the universe feel small and too familiar; it makes it so that it feels like everything worth discovering has been discovered, that there is nothing of any great importance left to find.
DuracellEnergizer said:
When it comes to fictional universes that are set in outer space, I like it when most of space is left uncharted and mysterious; it makes the universe feel immense, that just about anything can be found if one only travels far enough beyond the horizon.
But when most of that space has been charted, explored, and colonized, it makes the universe feel small and too familiar; it makes it so that it feels like everything worth discovering has been discovered, that there is nothing of any great importance left to find.
In that case, I think you'll be happy to hear that in the ANH novelization, Vader contemplates how the galaxy is so big that the destruction of Alderaan is insignificant.
And since none of the stuff about the Unknown Regions is canon anymore...
We can only hope.
This isn't good or bad in my opinion, but I've noticed that the ANH novelization is full of information that became important in JAT, TOTJ, KOTOR, and DOTJ. It's mentioned that Tatooine once had water, that Jawas and Tusken Raiders are thought to have a common ancestor, and that the Yavin temple was built by a species with amazing construction techniques that mysteriously vanished.
I've never been fond of how KOTOR handled the Tusken-Jawa relationship. One race evolves into two new -- apparently incompatible -- species in the mere span of thousands of years? I'm not buying it.
DuracellEnergizer said:
I've never been fond of how KOTOR handled the Tusken-Jawa relationship. One race evolves into two new -- apparently incompatible -- species in the mere span of thousands of years? I'm not buying it.
I agree 100%. What we're told in KOTOR sacrificed logic in order to tie two things together. In addition to not giving a date, the ANH novel says that only a few scientists believe that there's any connection between Tuskens and Jawas. The movie never gave me the impression that they're related.
Also, what horror visuals are in TOTJ?
darklordoftech said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
I've never been fond of how KOTOR handled the Tusken-Jawa relationship. One race evolves into two new -- apparently incompatible -- species in the mere span of thousands of years? I'm not buying it.
I agree 100%. What we're told in KOTOR sacrificed logic in order to tie two things together. In addition to not giving a date, the ANH novel says that only a few scientists believe that there's any connection between Tuskens and Jawas. The movie never gave me the impression that they're related.
Also, what horror visuals are in TOTJ?
^^^This.
darklordoftech said:
Also, what horror visuals are in TOTJ?
There's a fair amount of creepy imagery involving Sith spirits and the like in scenes taking place on Korriban.
DuracellEnergizer said:
darklordoftech said:
Also, what horror visuals are in TOTJ?
There's a fair amount of creepy imagery involving Sith spirits and the like in scenes taking place on Korriban.
Interesting. Thank you.
http://42gaming.com/blog/community-cantina-q-a-with-eric-musco-los-angeles-2014.html
Q: How will Disney's takeover of the rights to Star Wars affect SWTOR's lore?
A: SWTOR is not canon. It is part of the extended universe. It will not be affected in anyway. The only thing that can affect SWTOR is Lucas Arts. As in Sith will not be running around on unicorn mounts.\
Thank god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the NuEU will actually give a competent portrayal of the post-1999 Sith. Probably not, but maybe.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Maybe the NuEU will actually give a competent portrayal of the post-1999 Sith. Probably not, but maybe.
I would think that Disney would rather the history of the Sith be defined by the spin-off movies than by the NuEU.
*points out once again Disney doesn't care, it's all in the hands of the new guard at Lucasfilm*
Tobar said:
*points out once again Disney doesn't care, it's all in the hands of the new guard at Lucasfilm*
We don't know that Disney doesn't care, and I'm sure Lucasfilm also feels the way that I said I think Disney feels.
Talk to Pixar and they'll tell you Disney keeps their hands out of their creative decisions.
Talk to Marvel and you'll hear the same.
If you're going to discuss the future of Star Wars, point to the people actually calling the shots.
In this case it would be the Lucasfilm Story Group headed by Leland Chee and Pablo Hidalgo.
Tobar said:
Talk to Pixar and they'll tell you Disney keeps their hands out of their creative decisions.
If that's true, why has Pixar become so sequel-happy?
Tobar said:
Talk to Marvel and you'll hear the same.
because Marvel was already doing well
Tobar said:
Lucasfilm Story Group headed by Leland Chee and Pablo Hidalgo.
What happened to Kathleen Kennedy?
darklordoftech said:
Tobar said:
Talk to Pixar and they'll tell you Disney keeps their hands out of their creative decisions.
If that's true, why has Pixar become so sequel-happy?
You'd have to ask John Lasseter. My guess would be because he's stretched himself between three separate studios and the creative team they have on hand is not the same when the company was founded.
What happened to Kathleen Kennedy?
She's taken George's position in the company. Do you believe he personally oversaw the development of the EU?