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This guy must be real fun at parties.
Where were you in '77?
What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS — Page 2
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Sent it directly to the secret rebel base. 😉
That’s not the way intelligence works. Not even Al Qaeda or ISIS does that. The message gets sent from one operative to the next to the next. Otherwise the Empire could have traced the transmission directly to the secret Rebel base on Yavin…right?
Which might explain why Poe has to meet some old guy on a remote planet to get the map thingy?
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This guy must be real fun at parties.
I am!
Hey! Here’s a thought – the thread is named “WHAT DIDN’T YOU LIKE ABOUT TFA?”
If it offends you to read dissenting opinions, maybe you should avoid threads named as such?
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Says the fellow who was harping on the movie before they finally saw it yesterday?
Where were you in '77?
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Mr lizard I’m with you most of the way but in terms of the movies I think we can let Anadins ghost of the hook. The only person we know gets to see them is Luke. There is some talk of Qui-gon contacting Yoda from the Netherlands or something but we don’t really know the rules. Palpatine could be talking to him via his grandaddy’s hat. Maybe only people who met them in life get to see them. Qui-gon doesn’t turn up to give Luke advice. So as far as I’m concerned the ghost thing isn’t an issue.
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This guy must be real fun at parties.
I am!
Hey! Here’s a thought – the thread is named “WHAT DIDN’T YOU LIKE ABOUT TFA?”
If it offends you to read dissenting opinions, maybe you should avoid threads named as such?
I’m not offended. Frankly I stopped reading your long-ass post part-way through, when it was clear you didn’t pay attention when you were watching the film.
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Which might explain why Poe has to meet some old guy on a remote planet to get the map thingy?
No.
Think about it. At the open of ANH, Leia has the plans BUT HER COVER HAS BEEN BLOWN. Leia did not transmit the Death Star plans to Alderaan or Yavin for fear of revealing to the Empire that Alderaan is cooperating with the Rebellion and for fear of revealing the location of the Rebel base on Yavin. So she did the only thing she could think of – stuff the plans in a droid and then order the droid to carry the plans to someone she believed sympathized with her cause. THIS IS WHY LEIA COULD NOT USE ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSIONS TO SEND ON THE DEATH STAR PLANS.
In TFA, the Von Sydow character already established a communication link with Leia, thereby already potentially exposing the location of the Resistance planet (assuming it was also a secret kept from the First Order). So…why not just send on the map in that transmission?
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I thought as a forum we were open to opinions and observations? I think he makes lots of perfectly valid points. On topic points too.
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TV’s Frink said:
I’m not offended. Frankly I stopped reading your long-ass post part-way through, when it was clear you didn’t pay attention when you were watching the film.
Gotcha. I apologize if I missed a detail along the way. Can you point out what I may have misssed?
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Says the fellow who was harping on the movie before they finally saw it yesterday?
You’re a moderator of this board, aren’t you?
In this modern day and age where online conversations are quickly moving more and more away from traditional forums over to social media, shouldn’t you, maybe, be a bit more welcoming to new members? Even if they gasp express a different opinion from the masses?
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I thought as a forum we were open to opinions and observations? I think he makes lots of perfectly valid points. On topic points too.
If you say so.
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I thought as a forum we were open to opinions and observations? I think he makes lots of perfectly valid points. On topic points too.
Exactly. TFA is sloppy, even for Star Wars.
Even though we initially wanted all spoilers within the official review thread, I don’t think it’s such a bad idea for those with less than glowing reviews to have a place to gather and vent their frustrations.
MTFBWY…A
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TV’s Frink said:
I’m not offended. Frankly I stopped reading your long-ass post part-way through, when it was clear you didn’t pay attention when you were watching the film.Gotcha. I apologize if I missed a detail along the way. Can you point out what I may have misssed?
Did the sand swallowing the Tie Fighter bother you because you missed it being referenced earlier, or because the desert doesn’t conform to the way you expect deserts to behave?
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As someone whom really likes TFA, I think some of us are being too rude on those that didn’t like it. They should be able to be on hard on the film as they like without the condescending remarks thrown at them.
The Rise of Failures
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As someone whom really likes TFA, I think some of us are being too rude on those that didn’t like it.
Probably likewise.
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TV’s Frink said:
Did the sand swallowing the Tie Fighter bother you because you missed it being referenced earlier, or because the desert doesn’t conform to the way you expect deserts to behave?
Doesn’t it occur to you that it just, oh, so awfully convenient that the desert would behave that way right at that spot where the TIE fighter crash landed, despite the fact that there’s crashed wreckage everywhere else on this planet?
And does it also not occur to you that just because a movie “referenced it earlier,” that doesn’t mean that that earlier reference or explanation actually, you know, makes sense?
It’s contrived. Nicely convenient, like pretty much every other event of the movie.
That’s the thing. If you’re in a position where you have to keep saying to yourself, “Well, that’s possible, but highly improbable,” and you’re saying it again and again and again, you’re watching a poorly written movie.
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TV’s Frink said:
Did the sand swallowing the Tie Fighter bother you because you missed it being referenced earlier, or because the desert doesn’t conform to the way you expect deserts to behave?
This didn’t bother me. For one, I thought Poe Dameron booby-trapped the TIE fighter to disappear and hide their tracks. Maybe I was wrong about that, I don’t know, but it didn’t take me out of the story when I saw it. There were many other things that did, however.
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As someone whom really likes TFA, I think some of us are being too rude on those that didn’t like it.
Probably likewise.
We’re all passionate about this subject, so it’s flying in both directions right now.
We need to respect others’ opinions and not let it get too heated or personal.
MTFBWY…A
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As someone whom really likes TFA, I think some of us are being too rude on those that didn’t like it. They should be able to be on hard on the film as they like without the condescending remarks thrown at them.
My point was that he wrote a novel about all the problems he perceives. Many of which are serious stretches or simply showed he wasn’t paying attention. But that’s fine, I should just bail on this thread anyway.
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TV’s Frink said:
Did the sand swallowing the Tie Fighter bother you because you missed it being referenced earlier, or because the desert doesn’t conform to the way you expect deserts to behave?This didn’t bother me. For one, I thought Poe Dameron booby-trapped the TIE fighter to disappear and hide their tracks.
Rey mentions the quicksand to BB-8 earlier.
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My point was that he wrote a novel about all the problems he perceives. Many of which are serious stretches or simply showed he wasn’t paying attention. But that’s fine, I’ll bail on this thread.
If I did that, then that’s certainly on me. So please, point out where I wasn’t paying attention.
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Rey mentions the quicksand to BB-8 earlier.
Writer #1: “Hey, we need to disappear Poe’s TIE fighter after they crash.”
Writer #2: “Have Rey say something about quicksand in an earlier scene. Done.”
Writer #1: “Awesome! Lunchtime.”
Same deal with Finn and his saber skills.
Writer #1: “How can Finn possibly fight Ren in a saber battle and not get sliced to pieces?”
Writer #2: “Show him fighting a bit earlier with a Stormtrooper who has a saber-like weapon.”
Writer #1: “What value would sword fighting be to a Stormtrooper?”
Writer #2: “It’s Star Wars, man. Just shut off your brain and enjoy the ride.”
MTFBWY…A
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Rey mentions the quicksand to BB-8 earlier.
Writer #1: “Hey, we need to disappear Poe’s TIE fighter after they crash.”
Writer #2: “Have Rey say something about quicksand in an earlier scene. Done.”
Writer #1: “Awesome! Lunchtime.”Same deal with Finn and his saber skills.
Writer #1: “How can Finn possibly fight Ren in a saber battle and not get sliced to pieces?”
Writer #2: “Show him fighting a bit earlier with a Stormtrooper who has a saber-like weapon.”
Writer #1: “What value would sword fighting be to a Stormtrooper?”
Writer #2: “It’s Star Wars, man. Just shut off your brain and enjoy the ride.”
Precisely. These are very well expressed examples of contrived screenwriting. Again, just because they slap together an explanation doesn’t mean the explanation makes sense or is good.
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That stromtrooper sabre scene was cringeworthy. Just brutal.
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That stromtrooper sabre scene was cringeworthy. Just brutal.
Agree. I probably should have included that in my review.