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Opinions don’t circumvent facts.
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS — Page 37
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Opinions don’t circumvent facts.
We are not discussing facts here. In case you didn’t notice, this thread is called “What didn’t you LIKE about TFA?”.
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I’ve not seen one minute of Rebels.
With that said, if you think Rebels sucks, I don’t see the problem in saying you shouldn’t take it as the basis for something that was in TFA. We do this with the prequels all the time.
With that said, I don’t see the problem with a TIE sitting on the wings.
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Opinions don’t circumvent facts.
We are not discussing facts here. In case you didn’t notice, his thread is called “What didn’t you LIKE about TFA?”.
The way in which TIE Fighters are parked is something that is empirical and using Rebels as a canon reference is based on facts. Your opinion on the show has absolutely no bearing on the validity of a canon reference. Find another excuse.
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Opinions don’t circumvent facts.
We are not discussing facts here. In case you didn’t notice, his thread is called “What didn’t you LIKE about TFA?”.
The way in which TIE Fighters are parked is something that is empirical and using Rebels as a canon reference is based on facts. Your opinion on the show has absolutely no bearing on the validity of a canon reference. Find another excuse.
That is like reading that Earth is flat a religious book (equivalent of TFA) and then trying to justify it with “empirical evidence” in a preceding religious book (equivalent of Rebels).
The point is, if stuff is crap you don’t take it seriously.
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I’m not sure you knew this but there’s more to Star Wars than the OT. A lot more. Some better; a lot worse.
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I’m not sure you knew this but there’s more to Star Wars than the OT. A lot more. Some better; a lot worse.
Oh really? I want to hear more about this.
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I’m not sure you knew this but there’s more to Star Wars than the OT. A lot more. Some better; a lot worse.
Oh really? I want to hear more about this.
Knights of The Old Republic and it’s sequel, The Thrawn Trilogy (which I find kind of overrated as well), Plagueis, Lost Stars and the trilogy that doesn’t need to be named are all on par with the OT in my opinion even though most are not canon. Because of these works my love for Star Wars has never been stronger…well that was the contention I held until I saw TFA.
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TCW ain’t bad either.
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Lord Haseo said:
the trilogy that doesn’t need to be named
What is that.
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Lord Haseo said:
the trilogy that doesn’t need to be namedWhat is that.
My absolute favorite thing in Star Wars besides ESB.
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The Starkiller Base superweapon. I don’t know how they managed to screw it up so badly. It shows up out of thin air while Hux talks about it as if everyone knows what it is, destroys the capital of a government that we don’t have any reason to care about, and then gets destroyed. It feels like Starkiller was spliced in from another film.
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What did we know about Alderaan, except it was Leia’s home planet and they didn’t have any weapons before KABOOM!
Where were you in '77?
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The Starkiller Base superweapon. I don’t know how they managed to screw it up so badly. It shows up out of thin air while Hux talks about it as if everyone knows what it is, destroys the capital of a government that we don’t have any reason to care about, and then gets destroyed. It feels like Starkiller was spliced in from another film.
I felt the same way about it looking like two different story lines spliced together. From the crawl and introduction of BB-8 the story pointed to being about getting to Luke. Starkiller just seemed like an afterthought or a decision by committee.
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And it has the two-seater-TIE in it. And the named every cable, every thing like the engines and the weapon system. And well, there is no repulsorlift in it. Some other ships and vehicles have it.
Yeah, in most depictions, it looks as if TIE fighters are not capable of atmospheric flight - only in space close close to a mothership.
Yet, at the end of ESB when the Falcon escapes Cloud City, it is pursued by TIE Fighters. Those TIE fighters must have had repulsors or they would not be able to fly there. (or the pilots would have had to fly with the engines angled towards the ground)
I found my old technical manual. There is explained how the starting (from a desthstar-hangar) works.
“While many of the Death Star’s hangar bays were equipped to accommodate shuttles and other transports, most were engineered specifically to house, deploay, and service Imperial TIE fighters, which are not equipped with landing gear. The Death Star carried more than 7,000 TIE fighters. Smaller hangars contained few as two TIE fighters, while larger hangars contained six squadrons, or 72 TIE fighters.
Each TIE hangar bay had ceiling-mounted racks that held the TIEs several meters above the deck. Pilots climbed across a ganty above the racks to reach their starfighters, and entered the TIEs through ceiling hatches. After the pilot was seated behind the controls and the hatch was sealed, the rack disengaged and dropped the TIE into the waiting repulsorlift field below. The field maneuvered the TIE to the bay opening where tractor beams automatically took control, catapulting the TIE through the hangar’s magnetic forcefield and into space. When the TIE returned to the hangar, tractor beams would guide the TIE back on the rack.”
“LUKE… I’M SEEING HIM.
HE’S COMMANDING THE IMPERIAL FORCES… LIKE OUR FATHER!
I FEAR WE LOST HIM, HAN… I FEAR WE LOST EVERYTHING.”
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What did we know about Alderaan, except it was Leia’s home planet and they didn’t have any weapons before KABOOM!
Alderaan was at least involved in the plot as it was a main character’s home planet and Luke and Ben were on a mission to go there.
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What did we know about Alderaan, except it was Leia’s home planet and they didn’t have any weapons before KABOOM!
Alderaan was at least involved in the plot as it was a main character’s home planet and Luke and Ben were on a mission to go there.
Also it being a peaceful planet with no weapons made the deed seem more abhorrent.
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Pfft, you can’t believe anything those Rebel scum say. Look at all the lies Obi-Wan told his “friends.”
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What did we know about Alderaan, except it was Leia’s home planet and they didn’t have any weapons before KABOOM!
Alderaan was at least involved in the plot as it was a main character’s home planet and Luke and Ben were on a mission to go there.
Also it being a peaceful planet with no weapons made the deed seem more abhorrent.
I will say the fact that the Falcon was going to Alderaan and it went kablooey makes that destruction a bit more impactful, but in TFA we know that the Republic’s senate and fleet are destroyed by the Starkiller, which isn’t nothing.
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What did we know about Alderaan, except it was Leia’s home planet and they didn’t have any weapons before KABOOM!
Alderaan was at least involved in the plot as it was a main character’s home planet and Luke and Ben were on a mission to go there.
More importantly, the movie doesn’t pretend that we should care about Alderaan more than we actually do.
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I know that we don’t use Star Wars as a bastion of scientfic fact,
but Starkiller base is roughly smaller than our Moon, about 1900km diameter say. The star that the base collapses to at the end of the film is the same size.
Now our sun is one of the smallest main stage stars (i.e. having that yellow colour) that we are aware of, and are aware of being possible for that level of luminance and colour spectrum.
The diameter of our Sun is 1,392,000 km, and would have swallowed up the escaping ships before they could even think about jumping to hyperspace, but whatever…
its really annoying…
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Starkiller base = ~2000km
The Sun = 1,392,000km
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The star being drained in the movie turned into a supernova? I must have missed that…
Where were you in '77?
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Just watched it again today. All in all, I still think it’s very solid.
But, onto what I dislike.
The Rathtar scene is kinda jarring. The shots are too quick and jumpy, the whole scene feels awkward.
A friend pointed out to ne the other day that the Resistance only has X-Wings. No A-Wings or B-Wings or any other kinds of ships (other than the weird ship that brought Leia to Takodana). It is strange that their fleet consists totally of X-Wings, and I wish they had more ships.
Light Teal-and-Oranging is present in many scenes, as with most modern movies. Or maybe my eyes are just weird. The stars behind the crawl definitely looked blue though (in 3D and standard).
Snoke just doesn’t look good. Lightyears ahead of PT CGI characters, but he still looks very fake. Perhaps he’ll look better in the next film and this will be the new chimp-face Emperor, so to speak.
Death Star III is annoying. Hopefully this is the last time they’ll resort to the planet-destroying superweapon trope.
It’s strange that the destruction of the Hosnia(?) system is visable from Takodana.
So, mostly minor issues for me. I think it is definitely a good movie and I can’t wait to see how the story will continue to unfold.
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I enjoyed the action even though I wasn’t the hugest fan of the overall film, but the rathtar monster scene didn’t feel like Star Wars to me. It reminded me a lot of the creatures in the Abrams trek movies.
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I’m waiting for the Blu-ray to pass final judgement on Maz and Snoke. I remember being profoundly disappointed by the CGI in Jurassic World when I saw it projected at 4K, but when I watched it on my TV in 1080p with my family, it looked a lot better.