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Does fixing mastering issues count as undoing changes George or someone under the direction of George made?

As in, he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.
But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

I’m assuming here that the home video releases are handled by a different company since the buy out. I know something happens with Fox in 2020 but that’s it.

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I doubt any such thing was signed anyway

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PTOTST in that order said:

As in, he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

Releasing OOT does not mean undoing the SE. It just means undoing Lucas’ efforts to erase OOT.

真実

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imperialscum said:

PTOTST in that order said:

As in, he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

Releasing OOT does not mean undoing the SE. It just means undoing Lucas’ efforts to erase OOT.

I meant to say that he probably signed an agreement prohibiting that.

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Possessed said:

I doubt any such thing was signed anyway

Hard to say, but regardless of that, I think the studios in general give quite a lot of deference to a film’s director (on the issue of home video releases, that is). Star Wars is hardly the only film where some shitty director’s cut is given priority over the theatrical cut. And while Lucas only directed one of the films, I think Disney will still defer to him on the whole trilogy out of some sort of misguided sense of professional respect, even if they’re not legally obligated to. I expect that will continue even after death (see the Narnia reordering fiasco, where publishers interpreted a letter where CS Lewis humors an enthusiastic fan as justification for still effing up the whole series 50 years after the man is no longer capable of being offended by their publishing choices).

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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PTOTST in that order said:

he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

How could anyone know this?

But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

How could anyone know this?

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TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

How could anyone know this?

But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

How could anyone know this?

How does your post advance the conversation in any way?

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CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

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CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

OOT on cerebral cortex insertion disc 2073!

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film :

Due to the U.S. Copyright Term Extension Act, no more films will automatically enter public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019, when the copyright will expire on films released in 1923 (and in 2020 films from 1924, and so on).

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film :

Due to the U.S. Copyright Term Extension Act, no more films will automatically enter public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019, when the copyright will expire on films released in 1923 (and in 2020 films from 1924, and so on).

Isn’t Disney the king of keeping IP’s private though? Mickey Mouse…

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PTOTST in that order said:

TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

How could anyone know this?

But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

How could anyone know this?

How does your post advance the conversation in any way?

Answer my questions and I’ll answer yours.

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CatBus said:

Possessed said:

I doubt any such thing was signed anyway

Hard to say, but regardless of that, I think the studios in general give quite a lot of deference to a film’s director (on the issue of home video releases, that is). Star Wars is hardly the only film where some shitty director’s cut is given priority over the theatrical cut. And while Lucas only directed one of the films, I think Disney will still defer to him on the whole trilogy out of some sort of misguided sense of professional respect, even if they’re not legally obligated to. I expect that will continue even after death (see the Narnia reordering fiasco, where publishers interpreted a letter where CS Lewis humors an enthusiastic fan as justification for still effing up the whole series 50 years after the man is no longer capable of being offended by their publishing choices).

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

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TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

How could anyone know this?

But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

How could anyone know this?

How does your post advance the conversation in any way?

Answer my questions and I’ll answer yours.

But I don’t value your opinion.

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PTOTST in that order said:

TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

How could anyone know this?

But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

How could anyone know this?

How does your post advance the conversation in any way?

I think the problem is that this topic of “conversation” is just a purely hypothetical question based around nothing more than random speculation.

So I’d probably say no, it doesn’t advance the conversation in any way, insofar as it’s impossible to because there isn’t really a conversation to be had.

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SilverWook said:

CatBus said:

Possessed said:

I doubt any such thing was signed anyway

Hard to say, but regardless of that, I think the studios in general give quite a lot of deference to a film’s director (on the issue of home video releases, that is). Star Wars is hardly the only film where some shitty director’s cut is given priority over the theatrical cut. And while Lucas only directed one of the films, I think Disney will still defer to him on the whole trilogy out of some sort of misguided sense of professional respect, even if they’re not legally obligated to. I expect that will continue even after death (see the Narnia reordering fiasco, where publishers interpreted a letter where CS Lewis humors an enthusiastic fan as justification for still effing up the whole series 50 years after the man is no longer capable of being offended by their publishing choices).

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

And this is why we have fan preservations.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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PTOTST in that order said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film :

Due to the U.S. Copyright Term Extension Act, no more films will automatically enter public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019, when the copyright will expire on films released in 1923 (and in 2020 films from 1924, and so on).

Isn’t Disney the king of keeping IP’s private though? Mickey Mouse…

I wasn’t disputing at all that this would happen fairly close to when the sun explodes, just that this is how long we’ll have to wait, regardless of how long the wait is.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Disney simply isn’t Lucas, who (like it or not) was still an “artist”. Disney is pure corporation and what they care about is making the profit. Releasing OOT is simply unnoteworthy compared to the profit they get from making new stuff.

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imperialscum said:

Disney simply isn’t Lucas, who (like it or not) was still an “artist”. Disney is pure corporation and what they care about is making the profit. Releasing OOT is simply unnoteworthy compared to the profit they get from making new stuff.

To paraphrase : Disney only cares and money. Therefore, they won’t sell a product that costs practically nothing to produce and that will sell like hot cakes at $100 a pop.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CatBus said:

PTOTST in that order said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film :

Due to the U.S. Copyright Term Extension Act, no more films will automatically enter public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019, when the copyright will expire on films released in 1923 (and in 2020 films from 1924, and so on).

Isn’t Disney the king of keeping IP’s private though? Mickey Mouse…

I wasn’t disputing at all that this would happen fairly close to when the sun explodes, just that this is how long we’ll have to wait, regardless of how long the wait is.

Which means only this guy will ever be able to watch the OOT. 😉

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SilverWook said:

CatBus said:

PTOTST in that order said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film :

Due to the U.S. Copyright Term Extension Act, no more films will automatically enter public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019, when the copyright will expire on films released in 1923 (and in 2020 films from 1924, and so on).

Isn’t Disney the king of keeping IP’s private though? Mickey Mouse…

I wasn’t disputing at all that this would happen fairly close to when the sun explodes, just that this is how long we’ll have to wait, regardless of how long the wait is.

Which means only this guy will ever be able to watch the OOT. 😉

FTFY

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

SilverWook said:

CatBus said:

PTOTST in that order said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

There likely will not be an official release of the Star Wars trilogy on home video until the copyrights expire and we get a good public domain release.

But who here has time to wait for the end of western civilization?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film :

Due to the U.S. Copyright Term Extension Act, no more films will automatically enter public domain in the United States until January 1, 2019, when the copyright will expire on films released in 1923 (and in 2020 films from 1924, and so on).

Isn’t Disney the king of keeping IP’s private though? Mickey Mouse…

I wasn’t disputing at all that this would happen fairly close to when the sun explodes, just that this is how long we’ll have to wait, regardless of how long the wait is.

Which means only this guy will ever be able to watch the OOT. 😉

FTFY

Does the sun go supernova in that episode? 😉

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Where were you in '77?

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PTOTST in that order said:

TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

TV’s Frink said:

PTOTST in that order said:

he presumably signed something with Disney saying that Disney won’t un-do the Special Editions.

How could anyone know this?

But can Disney fix things that are objectively wrong like ANH’s crazy color issues or TPM and AotC’s DNR?

How could anyone know this?

How does your post advance the conversation in any way?

Answer my questions and I’ll answer yours.

But I don’t value your opinion.

PTOTST in that order said:

How does your post advance the conversation in any way?